If you are really about paying for that be sure to check 'luxury'/ local travel agents - AF has a lot of confidential first class fares which are booked to F (not P which is kept published fares). There are GREAT discounts.

As for you question - you simply tick off economy and business fields on the fare results screen.

MPM and TPM
 

Is excess mileage surcharge calculated based on MPM and then TPD added or it is calculated based on TPM (which exceeds the first number by TPD * % of excess mileage)?

Not very clear but short...

Just interpret that as a "No Availability" message. AZ is returning a non-standard response to us that our system hasn't seen before and doesn't know what to do with it so we have to program it in. Please email [email protected] with any other error messages you may receive.

An example of what our Fare Information results look like is here: http://www.expertflyer.com/screensho...nformation.jsp For a more specific search, you're more then welcome to sign up for our 5-day free trial and give us a try.

My understanding is that a surcharge of X% of the base fare is added to the base fare for mileage that is X% in excess of the MPM at intervals of 5%, 10%, 15%, 20%, and 25%. If that's what you're asking.

The MPM and the 5M, 10M, 15M, 20M and 25M thresholds don't change; the TPD comes into play when you calculate the cumulative TPM, from which you deduct the TPD before comparing the result to the MPM and nM excess mileages. So, in other words, the TPD * % of excess mileage is not part of the equation.

Short and hopefully clear... ;)

Thank you.
a specific answer would have been better for me and could constitute a real trial.
Perhaps a member will answer to my question, as I do when somebody asks for help on the forum.
( LHR to NRT on AF in first class on april 19 to may 9 )

Thank you. I thought that a tool like EF can show all the fares on a specific travel. A travel agency (luxury or not) is for me a second step, when I want to book...and only if it is a complicated routing.

Their 5-day trial works fine. Why aren't you trying it? Right now it sounds like you're asking them to give you something for free.

Just signed up for the basic trial period today. Very user friendly and informative. I signed up to check on upgrade availability for domestic F. Unfortunately CO isn't supported so the website is of no use to me. :(

Thanks, thus TPM <= MPM + %MPM (or EMS) + TPD.:-:

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Sign up for the 5-day free trial and you can get "a real trial", as well as the answer to your question. @:-)

Yep. Even more succint! :cool: Although EMS is the Excess Mileage Surcharge, i.e. an amount in currency not on miles...

And I think we've lost 90% of people reading this thread... :)

I'm lost, but think you're talking about maximum permitted mileage, which is something I don't understand but has bitten me before (trying to fly from A to B via C instead of D, because A-C is a longer flight at a better time).

So, if EF can help me know the maximum mileage on a route, that's good.

Not really a problem since upgrade info on CO is NEVER predictable! Wouldn't matter if they did have it! And the reason why even tho I live in Northern NJ, I never fly CO overseas as they make it impossible to plan way ahead.

Thank you.
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I found the answer on KVS:
[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.8.R5/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/UK **]

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