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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:

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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:

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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:

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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
...
9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:

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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
...
D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
...
Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
...
L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
...
You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
...
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

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http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
...
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
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4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:

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Aug 14, 2014 | 9:01 pm

#6976

KVS

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FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooliomonkey

KVS seems like an interesting program. I was wondering whether the KVS program can search for # of slots available for upgrades with CI flights. For example, I am flying from TPE to YVR on sept 1. Therefore, I bought an economy ticket and try to upgrade with my mileage but been put on a wait-list. Will this program show me the # people on wait-list or # of seats available for upgrade?

KVS Tool currently supports CI F Upgrades only:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooliomonkey

EDIT: Is there a trial coupon code or something ???

We do have a 2-month Membership option:

http://Join.KVSTool.com/

Aug 14, 2014 | 9:05 pm

#6977

KVS

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Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyerhog

BA/Oneworld search is returning data source engine RW-1 for me. The BA site itself just asked me a captcha code to see if I'm a robot. What is happening

Please solve the CAPTCHA in your regular web browser and try again.

If the issue persists, please advise.

Aug 14, 2014 | 11:57 pm

#6978

no_idea

Join Date: Feb 2007

Location: allaroundasia

Programs: LH SEN, Bonvoy Plat. M&S E+,HH Gold

Posts: 236

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Please solve the CAPTCHA in your regular web browser and try again.

If the issue persists, please advise.

The problem (data source error RW-1)is still existing.

Aug 15, 2014 | 9:45 am

#6979

jimbray

Join Date: Aug 2014

Posts: 2

I have a question, in a flight (GA, if that matters)
- assuming that Y class is 4 classes higher/more expensive than N class
- assume flight is full
- someone on N class or any class lower than Y decided to refund his ticket
- will his seat be sold by the airline at his purchase class (N) OR
- will his seat be sold at Y class (most expensive) ???

Thanks

Aug 15, 2014 | 9:53 am

#6980

golfmad

Moderator: The British Airways Club

Join Date: Nov 2010

Location: TPA/ABZ

Programs: British Airways Gold Guest List for Life

Posts: 14,248

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbray

I don't think you can consider this in isolation to everything else going on with that flight or even other related flights. For example, what do you mean by 'full'? Perhaps it's exactly full or perhaps it's oversold in certain cabin. Revenue management is a complex dark art.

Aug 15, 2014 | 9:54 am

#6981

dkerr

Join Date: Aug 2001

Posts: 1,158

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbray

I have a question, in a flight (GA, if that matters)
- assuming that Y class is 4 classes higher/more expensive than N class
- assume flight is full
- someone on N class or any class lower than Y decided to refund his ticket
- will his seat be sold by the airline at his purchase class (N) or
- will his seat be sold at Y class (most expensive) ???

Thanks

The seat will go back into inventory management system and its magic algorithm with decide. E.g. if before canceling flight looked like...

Y0 B0 H0 K0 N0 Q0

Then you cancel your N ticket, the resulting availability could be anything...

Y0 B0 H0 K0 N0 Q0 (flight was oversold, and computer decided not to release new seat)
Y1 B0 H0 K0 N0 Q0 (Computer released it to full fare only)
Y1 B1 H1 K0 N0 Q0 (Computer released it to "flexible" fares only)
Y1 B1 H1 K1 N1 Q1 (Computer released it to any fare class)

What the computer does will depend on how long it is to flight time, predicted loads, etc. Also whether you could purchase a new N fare will depend on advance purchase rules (e.g. if 7 day advance purchase required, and flight is tomorrow, then even if N1 is offered, you won't be able to buy a new ticked for it -- but may be able to move an existing N ticket from a different flight on to it).

I have personal experience of almost all of the above scenarios (though on a business class ticket where it could be sold as either full fare J or discounted).

DAK

Aug 15, 2014 | 11:12 am

#6982

KVS

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FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyerhog

BA/Oneworld search is returning data source engine RW-1 for me. The BA site itself just asked me a captcha code to see if I'm a robot. What is happening

Quote:

Originally Posted by no_idea

The problem (data source error RW-1)is still existing.

We have now implemented CAPTCHA support for [Awards/BA-OneWorld] -- please download V7.4.2

Aug 18, 2014 | 2:37 am

#6983

scienm

Join Date: Jul 2010

Location: Korea, USA

Programs: IC Dia RA / Marriott LT Plat / WOH Globalist / Hilton Diamond / OZ Diamond Plus

Posts: 348

Fares function is not working currently.. worked a couple of hours before but now it doesn't.

Aug 18, 2014 | 4:39 am

#6984

lnz

Join Date: Sep 2007

Location: LNZ, GOT

Programs: LH SEN

Posts: 93

KVS (Method Availability/FS) not showing two stop connections

Hi,

I have an issue with finding availability for a flight.

When querying as below, the tool does not show me any two-stop connection. I know there is availability but it does not show up.

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.1/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

GOT  Gothenburg Metro / Landvetter SE = GOT GSE [ESGG]
LNZ  Linz Hoersching AT [LOWL]
THU  28 Aug 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------
4U/EW      9221    GOT   09:15     DUS   10:45     CR9      I9 Y9 C9 R9 B9 O9 M9 H9 Q9 W0 S0 G0 K0 L0 T0 X0 N0 E0 U?
 -> OS/VO  212     DUS   20:00     LNZ   21:25     DH4      J5 C5 D5 Z5 P5 Y9 B9 M9 U? H0 G9 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 E0 L0 K0
LH         821     GOT   07:25     FRA   09:10     32A      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0
 -> LH/CL  1252    FRA   13:15     LNZ   14:20     E90      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P8 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0
SK/LH      8547    GOT   07:25     FRA   09:10     32A      C9 D9 Z4 J9 E9 M9 H9 Q4 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0
 -> SK/##  8542    FRA   13:15     LNZ   14:20     E90      C4 D4 Z4 J4 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0
LH         821     GOT   07:25     FRA   09:10     32A      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0
 -> LH/CL  1254    FRA   16:25     LNZ   17:30     E90      J5 C5 D0 Z5 P5 Y9 B9 M9 U0 H0 Q0 V9 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
SK/LH      8547    GOT   07:25     FRA   09:10     32A      C9 D9 Z4 J9 E9 M9 H9 Q4 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0
 -> SK/##  8544    FRA   16:25     LNZ   17:30     E90      C4 D0 Z0 J0 E9 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0
LH         813     GOT   10:00     FRA   11:45     733      J7 C7 D2 Z7 P5 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
 -> LH/CL  1252    FRA   13:15     LNZ   14:20     E90      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P8 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0
SK/LH      3605    GOT   10:00     FRA   11:45     733      C9 D0 Z0 J0 E9 M9 H9 Q4 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0
 -> SK/##  8542    FRA   13:15     LNZ   14:20     E90      C4 D4 Z4 J4 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0
LH         813     GOT   10:00     FRA   11:45     733      J7 C7 D2 Z7 P5 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
 -> LH/CL  1254    FRA   16:25     LNZ   17:30     E90      J5 C5 D0 Z5 P5 Y9 B9 M9 U0 H0 Q0 V9 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
SK/LH      3605    GOT   10:00     FRA   11:45     733      C9 D0 Z0 J0 E9 M9 H9 Q4 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0
 -> SK/##  8544    FRA   16:25     LNZ   17:30     E90      C4 D0 Z0 J0 E9 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0
LH         813     GOT   10:00     FRA   11:45     733      J7 C7 D2 Z7 P5 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
 -> LH/CL  1256    FRA   20:30     LNZ   21:35     E90      J7 C7 D6 Z7 P5 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q0 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K6
SK/LH      3605    GOT   10:00     FRA   11:45     733      C9 D0 Z0 J0 E9 M9 H9 Q4 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0
 -> SK/##  8548    FRA   20:30     LNZ   21:35     E90      C9 D4 Z4 J4 E9 M9 H9 Q0 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0
LH         817     GOT   14:30     FRA   16:15     32A      J9 C9 D7 Z9 P8 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
 -> LH/CL  1256    FRA   20:30     LNZ   21:35     E90      J7 C7 D6 Z7 P5 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q0 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K6

Help appreciated.

Aug 18, 2014 | 10:48 am

#6985

KVS

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FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by scienm

Fares function is not working currently.. worked a couple of hours before but now it doesn't.

Please clear MSIE Cookies and restart the KVS Tool.

Aug 18, 2014 | 10:53 am

#6986

KVS

Original Poster

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by lnz

I have an issue with finding availability for a flight.

When querying as below, the tool does not show me any two-stop connection. I know there is availability but it does not show up.

Help appreciated.

There are plenty of single-connect options on that route, so there is no logical reason for the Engine to build unnecessary connections.

If a particular routing is desired, you can use the [Via] option or search segment-by-segment.

Aug 18, 2014 | 11:13 am

#6987

Flyiboy

Join Date: Dec 2005

Location: Göteborg Sweden

Programs: BA GOLD/AMEX Plat.

Posts: 1,045

How accurate is KVS Tool Mobile Companion
Compared to EF ? Right now KVS shows the seat map completely full on my flight but EF shows half full. I'm I missing something ?
Thanks

Last edited by Flyiboy; Aug 18, 2014 at 11:16 am Reason: Click the "GO" button to quickley

Aug 18, 2014 | 5:04 pm

#6988

KVS

Original Poster

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyiboy

Right now KVS shows the seat map completely full on my flight but EF shows half full. I'm I missing something ?

What are Flight details?

Aug 18, 2014 | 9:27 pm

#6989

JIMCHI

Join Date: Jul 1999

Location: Sacramento, CA

Programs: AA Exec Plat, Hyatt,Marriott,BA,AS

Posts: 4,535

CX Awards - What Does AA See?

Hoping to book an F or C award on CX from LAX-HKG in the future. There are several methods of seeing award availability on KVS, with Awards JL supposedly being the best. But I will be using AAdvantage miles to book the award. Which of the various methods is most likely to show up on AA's res system when I call them to reserve? I don't want to get into an argument about what JL or other systems show. If Awards-OneWorld shows availability in the class I want, is it pretty much assured that AA agents will see that same availability? From what res system does Awards-OneWorld drive?

Aug 19, 2014 | 1:32 am

#6990

Flyiboy

Join Date: Dec 2005

Location: Göteborg Sweden

Programs: BA GOLD/AMEX Plat.

Posts: 1,045

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

What are Flight details?

Flight AA 57 on 27 Aug 2014 LHR-MIA
Seat 3a 4a....

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