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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

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Dec 3, 2005, 5:13 am

#616

PreferBulkhead

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Hmmm -- for some reason it seems to be based on the date chosen?

For instance this Sunday - nada:

[KVS Availability Tool - Sabre: ITN/AXP]

Code:

LAX  Los Angeles Int'l CA US [KLAX]
SJD  San Jose Cabo Los Cabos MX
SUN  04 Dec 2005

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ----------------------------------------- 
AA        237    LAX  09:50     SJD  13:11     S80  0  J5 I1 D1 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 Q7 G7 W7 S7 N7
AA/MX     8277   LAX  11:30     SJD  14:45     320  0  J7 I7 D7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 Q7 W7 S7 N7 O7
AA        2404   LAX  00:15     DFW  05:05     S80  0  F5 A3 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M4 W3 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0 O0
 -> AA    1225   DFW  09:43     SJD  11:38     S80  0  J6 D2 I2 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M4 W3 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
AA        2410   LAX  06:00     DFW  11:03     S80  0  F7 A7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 W7 L7 Q7 G7 S7 N7 O7
 -> AA    865    DFW  12:10     SJD  14:05     S80  0  J5 D1 I1 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 W7 L7 Q7 G7 S7 N7
AA        2422   LAX  08:15     DFW  13:19     S80  0  F0 A0 Y4 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0 O0
 -> AA    875    DFW  18:10     SJD  20:05     S80  0  J5 D1 I1 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
AA        2434   LAX  10:08     DFW  15:05     757  0  F0 A0 Y3 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0 O0
 -> AA    875    DFW  18:10     SJD  20:05     S80  0  J5 D1 I1 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
AA        2402   LAX  11:02     DFW  16:04     738  0  F0 A0 Y7 B7 H7 K3 M0 W0 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0 O0
 -> AA    875    DFW  18:10     SJD  20:05     S80  0  J5 D1 I1 Y7 B7 H7 K3 M0 W0 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
AA        2442   LAX  11:42     DFW  16:51     S80  0  F2 A0 Y6 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0 O0
 -> AA    875    DFW  18:10     SJD  20:05     S80  0  J5 D1 I1 Y3 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
AA        1264   LAX  23:15     ORD  05:11 +1  S80  0  F6 A4 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M3 W0 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0 O0
 -> AA    209    ORD  08:22 +1  SJD  12:08 +1  S80  0  J7 D3 I3 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M3 W0 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
AA        1740   LAX  23:59     ORD  05:54 +1  S80  0  F5 A3 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M1 W0 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0 O0
 -> AA    209    ORD  08:22 +1  SJD  12:08 +1  S80  0  J7 D3 I3 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M1 W0 L0 Q0 G0 S0 N0

But for a Friday a couple of weeks later:

[KVS Availability Tool - Sabre: ITN/AXP]

Code:

LAX  Los Angeles Int'l CA US [KLAX]
SJD  San Jose Cabo Los Cabos MX
FRI  16 Dec 2005

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ----------------------------------------- 
AA        237    LAX  09:36     SJD  13:00     S80  0  J3 D0 I0 Y2 B2 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0 W0
AA        2404   LAX  00:30     DFW  05:17     738  0  F6 A3 Y7 B5 H3 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
 -> AA    1225   DFW  09:42     SJD  11:38     S80  0  J7 D6 I0 Y7 B5 H3 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0
AA        2408   LAX  01:00     DFW  05:45     738  0  F7 A4 Y7 B5 H2 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
 -> AA    1225   DFW  09:42     SJD  11:38     S80  0  J7 D6 I0 Y7 B5 H2 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0
AA        2410   LAX  06:00     DFW  11:02     757  0  F7 A7 Y7 B7 H7 K3 M3 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
 -> AA    865    DFW  11:55     SJD  13:51     S80  0  J7 D3 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K3 M3 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0
AA        2430   LAX  09:00     DFW  14:09     S80  0  F0 A0 Y7 B5 H2 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
 -> AA    875    DFW  18:38     SJD  20:35     S80  0  J7 D5 I0 Y5 B5 H2 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0
AA        2434   LAX  10:10     DFW  15:13     757  0  F1 A0 Y6 B2 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
 -> AA    875    DFW  18:38     SJD  20:35     S80  0  J7 D5 I0 Y2 B2 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0
AA        2442   LAX  11:45     DFW  16:49     738  0  F0 A0 Y7 B5 H3 K1 M1 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
 -> AA    875    DFW  18:38     SJD  20:35     S80  0  J7 D5 I0 Y5 B5 H3 K1 M1 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0
AA        1264   LAX  23:05     ORD  05:00 +1  757  0  F7 A7 Y7 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
 -> AA    209    ORD  08:22 +1  SJD  12:05 +1  S80  0  J2 D0 I0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0
AA        1740   LAX  23:54     ORD  05:50 +1  S80  0  F6 A4 Y7 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
 -> AA    209    ORD  08:22 +1  SJD  12:05 +1  S80  0  J2 D0 I0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0
AA/MX     8277   LAX  11:30     SJD  14:45     320  0  J7 D7 I7 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 Q0 S0 W0 N0
AA        2446   LAX  12:43     DFW  17:52     S80  0  F0 A0 Y2 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
 -> AA    875    DFW  18:38     SJD  20:35     S80  0  J7 D5 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0
AA        1740   LAX  23:54     ORD  05:50 +1  S80  0  F6 A4 Y7 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0 N0
 -> AA    1775   ORD  10:22 +1  SJD  14:04 +1  S80  0  J2 D0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 W0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0

Dec 3, 2005, 11:48 am

#617

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alect

I have a question - I was looking for V inventory on AA LAX-SJD. I found EF shows it by default with all the other classes (and also if specified) but KVS Tool doesn't show it (Sabre search). Is there a reason or am I doing something wrong?

For some [very strange] reason, AA changes the order of the booking classes shown, depending on the date, e.g.:

[KVS Availability Tool - Apollo: ITN/CWT/US-NY]

Code:

LAX  Los Angeles Int'l CA US [KLAX]
SJD  San Jose Cabo Los Cabos MX
SUN  04 Dec 2005

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- -----------------------------------------------
AA        237    LAX  09:50     SJD  13:11     M80  0  J5 I1 D1 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 Q7 G7 W7 S7 N7 O7 V7

[KVS Availability Tool - Apollo: ITN/CWT/US-NY]

Code:

FRI  16 Dec 2005

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- -----------------------------------------------
AA        237    LAX  09:36     SJD  13:00     M80  0  J3 D0 I0 Y3 B3 H1 K0 M0 L0 V0 Q0 G0 S0 W0 N0 O0

The Sabre method of the Tool only shows the first 14 booking classes, that's why you don't always see the V class. I can only recommend that you use the Apollo/ITN/CWT method to check for AA's V class in these circumstances...

Dec 3, 2005, 5:31 pm

#618

qasr

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Posts: 13,967

KVS, Great tool!

There is a problem with the way some of the UA booking classes are now shown. I think this is because of their addition of the P bucket. Using the ITN/UA method, I can only see the Economy booking classes (not F,A,P) and using the Worldspan ITN/CWT method, I can only see F & P, but not A. All Econ booking classes show. There are also some problems on 3 class flights with the C, D, Z buckets. See below:

[KVS Availability Tool - Apollo: ITN/UA/US]

Code:

BOS  Boston Logan Int'l MA US [KBOS]
DAY  Dayton James Cox Dayton Int'l OH US [KDAY]
TUE  13 Dec 2005

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ----------------------------------------- 
UA/US     2653   BOS  15:00     LGA  16:06     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U0 H0 Q0 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4
 -> UA/US 3511   LGA  16:40     DAY  18:46     ERJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     1748   BOS  15:40     CLT  18:03     733  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V0 W0 S0 T0 K0 L0
 -> UA/US 3091   CLT  19:15     DAY  20:44          0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     1748   BOS  15:40     CLT  18:03     733  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
 -> UA/US 2933   CLT  21:35     DAY  23:06          0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA        539    BOS  16:00     ORD  17:59     733  0  Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W7 S3 T1 K9 L0 G3
 -> UA/OO 6888   ORD  20:55     DAY  23:02     CRJ  0  Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W7 S3 T1 K9 L0 G3
UA/US     2651   BOS  16:00     LGA  17:06     319  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 K0 L0 G0
 -> UA/US 3006   LGA  20:00     DAY  21:59     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 K0 L0 G0
UA/US     2661   BOS  17:00     LGA  18:06     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U0 H0 Q0 V4 W4 S4 T0 K0 L0
 -> UA/US 3006   LGA  20:00     DAY  21:59     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 K0 L0 G0
UA        543    BOS  17:05     ORD  19:05     735  0  F4 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W7 S3 T1 K9 L0
 -> UA/OO 6888   ORD  20:55     DAY  23:02     CRJ  0  Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W7 S3 T1 K9 L0 G3
UA/US     2667   BOS  18:00     LGA  19:11     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U0 H0 Q0 V4 W4 S4 T0 K0 L0
 -> UA/US 3006   LGA  20:00     DAY  21:59     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 K0 L0 G0
UA        545    BOS  18:04     ORD  20:00     320  0  F9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W7 S3 T1 K9 L0
 -> UA/OO 6888   ORD  20:55     DAY  23:02     CRJ  0  Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W7 S3 T1 K9 L0 G3
UA/US     1771   BOS  18:20     CLT  20:43     757  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4
 -> UA/US 2933   CLT  21:35     DAY  23:06          0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0

[KVS Availability Tool - Worldspan: ITN/CWT/US-LA]

Code:

BOS  Boston Logan Int'l MA US [KBOS]
DAY  Dayton James Cox Dayton Int'l OH US [KDAY]
TUE  13 Dec 2005

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ----------------------------------------------- 
UA        199    BOS  09:49     IAD  11:35     757  0  F9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 K9 L0 G9 P9
 -> UA/9N 7978   IAD  12:30     DAY  14:02     ER4  0  Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 K9 L0 G9
UA        535    BOS  11:55     ORD  13:36     757  0  F9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 K9 L9 G3 P9
 -> UA/OO 6790   ORD  15:40     DAY  17:54          0  F2 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 K9 L9 G3 P2
UA        197    BOS  11:57     IAD  13:44     320  0  F8 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 K9 L0 G4 P6
 -> UA/9N 7989   IAD  16:40     DAY  18:12     ER4  0  Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 K9 L0 G4
UA/US     2639   BOS  12:00     LGA  13:05     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W0 S0 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 3119   LGA  14:30     DAY  16:25     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     1716   BOS  12:30     PHL  13:56     734  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/#P 3354   PHL  17:05     DAY  18:44     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     1716   BOS  12:30     PHL  13:56     734  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 3214   PHL  15:40     DAY  17:25     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     2659   BOS  13:00     LGA  14:05     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W0 S0 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 3511   LGA  16:40     DAY  18:46     ERJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     2659   BOS  13:00     LGA  14:05     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W0 S0 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 3119   LGA  14:30     DAY  16:25     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     1733   BOS  13:30     PHL  14:56     734  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 3214   PHL  15:40     DAY  17:25     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     1733   BOS  13:30     PHL  14:56     734  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/#P 3354   PHL  17:05     DAY  18:44     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA        537    BOS  13:55     ORD  15:42     757  0  F9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 K9 L9 G3 P9
 -> UA    546    ORD  18:05     DAY  20:14     735  0  F7 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 K9 L9 G3 P6
UA/US     2492   BOS  14:00     CLT  16:18     733  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 3091   CLT  19:15     DAY  20:44          0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     2655   BOS  14:00     LGA  15:05     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W0 S0 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 3511   LGA  16:40     DAY  18:46     ERJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/YV     7164   BOS  14:02     IAD  16:04          0  F2 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 K9 L0 G3 P1
 -> UA/9N 7989   IAD  16:40     DAY  18:12     ER4  0  Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 K9 L0 G3
UA/US     2426   BOS  14:30     PHL  15:59     733  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/#P 3354   PHL  17:05     DAY  18:44     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     2653   BOS  15:00     LGA  16:06     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U0 H0 Q0 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 3006   LGA  20:00     DAY  21:59     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 K0 L0 G0
UA/US     2653   BOS  15:00     LGA  16:06     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U0 H0 Q0 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 3511   LGA  16:40     DAY  18:46     ERJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     1748   BOS  15:40     CLT  18:03     733  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V0 W0 S0 T0 K0 L0 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 2933   CLT  21:35     DAY  23:06          0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     1748   BOS  15:40     CLT  18:03     733  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V0 W0 S0 T0 K0 L0 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 3091   CLT  19:15     DAY  20:44          0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     2651   BOS  16:00     LGA  17:06     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U0 H0 Q0 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 3006   LGA  20:00     DAY  21:59     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 K0 L0 G0
UA        539    BOS  16:00     ORD  17:59     733  0  F6 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W7 S3 T1 K9 L0 G3 P6
 -> UA/OO 6888   ORD  20:55     DAY  23:02     CRJ  0  Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W7 S3 T1 K9 L0 G3
UA/US     2661   BOS  17:00     LGA  18:06     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U0 H0 Q0 V4 W4 S4 T0 K0 L0 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 3006   LGA  20:00     DAY  21:59     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 K0 L0 G0
UA        543    BOS  17:05     ORD  19:05     735  0  F4 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W7 S3 T1 K9 L0 G3 P4
 -> UA/OO 6888   ORD  20:55     DAY  23:02     CRJ  0  Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W7 S3 T1 K9 L0 G3
UA/US     2667   BOS  18:00     LGA  19:11     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U0 H0 Q0 V4 W4 S4 T0 K0 L0 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 3006   LGA  20:00     DAY  21:59     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 K0 L0 G0
UA        545    BOS  18:04     ORD  20:00     320  0  F9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W7 S3 T1 K9 L0 G3 P7
 -> UA/OO 6888   ORD  20:55     DAY  23:02     CRJ  0  Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W7 S3 T1 K9 L0 G3
UA/US     1771   BOS  18:20     CLT  20:43     757  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA/Us 2933   CLT  21:35     DAY  23:06          0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA/US     2455   BOS  11:30     PHL  12:58     733  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4
 -> UA    3214   PHL  15:40     DAY  17:25     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0

If you need any further help, don't hesitate to PM/Email me.

Dec 4, 2005, 1:40 pm

#619

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qasr

There is a problem with the way some of the UA booking classes are now shown. I think this is because of their addition of the P bucket. Using the ITN/UA method, I can only see the Economy booking classes (not F,A,P) and using the Worldspan ITN/CWT method, I can only see F & P, but not A. All Econ booking classes show. There are also some problems on 3 class flights with the C, D, Z buckets.

Well, the short answer is that the Apollo/ITN/CWT access method is not subject to any of the issues you have mentioned, and you can see all UA booking classes, including F/A/P and C/D/Z, e.g.:

[KVS Availability Tool - Apollo: ITN/CWT/US-NY]

Code:

BOS  Boston Logan Int'l MA US [KBOS]
DAY  Dayton James Cox Dayton Int'l OH US [KDAY]
TUE  13 Dec 2005

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- --------------------------------------------------
UA/US     2603   BOS  06:00     LGA  07:07     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W4 S4 T0 K0 L0 G0 P4 A4
 -> UA/#P 3118   LGA  09:10     DAY  11:16     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0
UA        877    BOS  08:00     ORD  09:45     319  0  F7 C7 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 K9 L9 G4 P6 A5 D7 Z7
 -> UA/OO 6926   ORD  10:50     DAY  12:58     CRJ  0  Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 K9 L9 G4

Dec 8, 2005, 10:49 pm

#620

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Last edited by KVS; Dec 10, 2005 at 3:45 pm

Dec 10, 2005, 3:46 pm

#621

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Dec 10, 2005, 3:59 pm

#622

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Happy Holidays AC Forum!

I've just posted this alert in the KVS Tool Master Thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...ferrerid=28181):

Please note that I will be travelling , and unable to issue any Registrations during the period between 12-29 December 2005. I will respond to your requests and other PMs upon my return...

Happy Holidays! to everyone on the KVS Tool's home forum, and, perhaps the unofficial KVS Tool spokesperson, PreferBulkhead would keep an eye on the master thread for me during this time

Dec 12, 2005, 11:01 am

#623

MBM3

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Can anyone confirm whether or not I can pull up my CO PNR via this tool? I have tried and can not seem to get any information.

Dec 13, 2005, 2:16 pm

#624

MBM3

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MBM3

Can anyone confirm whether or not I can pull up my CO PNR via this tool? I have tried and can not seem to get any information.

Bump

Dec 17, 2005, 9:51 am

#625

SomeGuy

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Can someone look at these?

I'm thinking about turning a work trip into a mini-MR, but only if I have a chance of upgrading. I want to download this tool, but since KVS is out of town for two more weeks, I can't use it yet. Would someone be so kind as to look at these flights and give me some feedback? Thanks.

Louisville, KY to San Antonio, TX: 2677 miles 15 hrs 28 min

Delta Air Lines Flight DL5362 on a Canadair Reg. Jet (jet) in coach class
Departs Louisville, KY (SDF) Thur, Jan 5 8:30a 47 min
Arrives Cincinnati, OH (CVG) 9:17a

Layover in Cincinnati 1 hr 13 min

Delta Air Lines Flight DL1597 on a Boeing 737 (jet) in coach class
Departs Cincinnati, OH (CVG) Thur, Jan 5 10:30a 1 hr 18 min
Arrives Chicago, IL (ORD) 10:48a

Layover in Chicago 2 hrs 56 min

Delta Air Lines Flight DL905 on a Boeing 737 (jet) in coach class
Departs Chicago, IL (ORD) Thur, Jan 5 1:44p 3 hrs 30 min
Arrives Salt Lake City, UT (SLC) 4:14p

Layover in Salt Lake City 3 hrs 1 min

Delta Air Lines Flight DL4803 on a Canadair RJ 700 (jet) in coach class
Departs Salt Lake City, UT (SLC) Thur, Jan 5 7:15p 2 hrs 43 min
Arrives San Antonio, TX (SAT) 10:58p

San Antonio, TX to Louisville, KY: 1193 miles 4 hrs 56 min

Delta Air Lines Flight DL269 on a MD-80 (jet) in coach class
Departs San Antonio, TX (SAT) Sun, Jan 8 5:30a 2 hrs 12 min
Arrives Atlanta, GA (ATL) 8:42a

Layover in Atlanta 1 hr 13 min

Delta Air Lines Flight DL536 on a MD-80 (jet) in coach class
Departs Atlanta, GA (ATL) Sun, Jan 8 9:55a 1 hr 31 min
Arrives Louisville, KY (SDF) 11:26a

Dec 22, 2005, 7:01 pm

#626

brentski

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Need help.

I've got the full version but am lost as far as how to go about trying to look up award type fares and what to look for. If someone could help me just get started in the right direction, I hopefully could go from there.
I'm just in need of some type of guidance as I'm lost trying to figure this thing out.

Basically,I'm looking for fares where I can use the following; either miles for a free flight or flights where I could use upgrades like a SWU for an upgrade from coach to Biz.

As mentioned ,I have the full version but am lost when trying to figure out what, or how to go about looking for the fares that qualify for upgrades or free flights using miles.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks and happy holidays,

Brentski

Last edited by brentski; Dec 22, 2005 at 7:08 pm Reason: simple changes

Dec 22, 2005, 8:56 pm

#627

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brentski

I think you'll really need to do the research yourself on this one. Look in the frequent flyer forum of the airline you want to fly on. Usually there will be a sticky with different info on that airline. Familarize yourself with the airlines website, they'll usually indicate what fare classes are upgradeable.

Most airlines don't list their award inventory that is readable to KVS.

If you'd like to give the dates, destinations and airlines we may be able to help you a bit.

Jan 1, 2006, 6:29 pm

#628

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MBM3

Can anyone confirm whether or not I can pull up my CO PNR via this tool? I have tried and can not seem to get any information.

Please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...26#post4777826

Jan 2, 2006, 7:16 pm

#629

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Please note that a "Which Access Method/System Is Best To Use For Airline X?:" section has now been added to the KVS Tool FAQ: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...74#post2804874

Jan 2, 2006, 9:25 pm

#630

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Please note that a "Which Access Method/System Is Best To Use For Airline X?:" section has now been added to the KVS Tool FAQ: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...74#post2804874

Thanks ^

A helpful addition to the FAQ's