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It means exactly what is says -- i.e. all standard HIP and MPM rules must be complied with.

Just added this link to the FAQ: http://www.travelterminal.com/glossary.shtml

I am afraid I cannot bring back something that I did not take away in the first place...

The good news is that I am currently working on implementing a OneWorld award checker (see next post), so this should more than 'fill the void' for QF-ers ;).

Yes, I am currently considering adding such functionality to the next version of the Tool, assuming there is sufficient interest for that kind of a feature ...

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Thanks KVS for the above clarification and for the link.

However, not too much detail there - anyone have any other resource on stopovers/HIP checks??

I almost got nailed before taking a flight to JFK, and 3 out of 4 AA telephone reps said that a "stopover" was allowed! :eek:

When the check-in agent said she needed to check with the fare desk, I was told "no dice", unless I wanted to pay $2200.00 for a refare, and this was with a practically *unlimited* (full fare) ticket!

Luckily I had a backup plan with a mileage ticket to use...but I could have used the sleep I lost when checking in for this flight so early!

Thanks - As much as I fly elsewhere on other airlines, that availability, especially on QF within Oz is a major plus!

There are actually a number of threads throughout FT that touch on the HIP issue.

If you are interested in a more in-depth kind of knowledge, then you may need to sign-up for a formal course on the topic of fare construction, etc...

Thanks for the suggestion.

This will be added to the next version as the [Max] option.

Can anyone help decipher this for an LH flight? I have looked in the FAQ section and done a couple of searches, but didn't find the key to these codes. I think I can figure 'R' is reserved, 'W' is probably the aisle, but not sure of the other codes.

Just pasted that front economy cabin from the 343.

This is the text Worldspan TravelASP:

OPERATES AS LH FLIGHT 481
LH481Y 07SEP A34 DENMUC AS 27 N 24
A C D E F G H K
24 R R W R S S W R R
25 R R W R R R R W R R
26 R R W R S S R W R R
27 R R W R . . R W R R
28
29 I B B I
30 R R E E E E R R
31 R R R . . R R R
32 R R R . . R R R
33 R R D . R R R R
34 R R R . . D R R
35 R R R . . R R R

Any update on the Galileo situation KVS?

Yay! :)

Yay, that's an excellent addition.

Any chance you could get LX availability, possibly through LH's M&M database? That's a huge gap in NH's system.

Pls see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...52#post8272552

Well, hopefully the word that LX is now a part of *A will get to NH eventually -- perhaps we should send NH a copy of the "Greetings SWISS" video: http://www.mwpmedienwerkstatt.de/sta...Seite4mpg.html ;).

The legend for most commonly-used codes is shown in the KVS Tool FAQ. However, LH uses its own set of codes...

I would guess that W denotes an over-Wing row, and E refers to an Exit row seat (see also http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Luf...bus_A343_2.php).

Perhaps, if you re-post the properly-formatted map in the LH forum, someone there may have more info. Alternatively, you can ask a friendly LH agent, as this is the same map that they would be seeing on their terminal screen.

[KVS Availability Tool 2.9.1/Platinum - Worldspan Seat Map: 07 Sep 2007/LH 481/DEN-MUC/340/Y]

How do I access Pacific Blue (Virgin Blue International) timetables and itineraries using the platinum version? Probably just me being useless with my computer as usual, but just wondering. Specifically AKL-WLG 15 Nov 2007
Thanks, Chris

I dont belive you can access LCC's timetables and itineraries through KVS. Correct me if I am wrong.

That is correct -- most LCCs are not connected to any global reservation systems, so their flights won't show-up in the Tool.

Anyone else getting Datasource errors when using Wspan and Apollo ITN?

Have tried on both of my pc's, and getting the same thing, but only on those two engines.

I have the same problem.

It seems to be working again now.

Apollo had a major outage today until quite recently.

Recently some of my enquires are showing the airline code as YY. Also the fares are not showing properly (just says Y instead of the class breakdown) Have i done something to it?

Carrier From To Fare Cur Expiry Min Max Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
YY DEL DPS 52583 INR Fri 3M YEE3M
YY DEL DPS 75111 INR Y
YY DEL DPS 87977 INR C
YY DEL DPS 103565 INR F


Carrier From To Fare Cur Expiry Min Max Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
YY DEL HKG 40134 INR Fri 3M YEE3M
YY DEL HKG 66312 INR Y
YY DEL HKG 80055 INR C
YY DEL HKG 95372 INR F

YY is the full IATA published fare between 2 cities - I was actually quite surprised (and happy) that these are now showing up. You can usually fly an airline on any routing on such fares.

Cheers

Attempting to use the KVS Availability Tool 2.9.1 to find
available flights for a United / Star Aliance award.

Interestingly I *am* seeing availability on the United
web site and *not* in the KVS tool.

Method: SNT: Awards/StarAlliance

Main tab:
From: IAD
To: GRU
Date: 26 Dec 2007
ANA No: xxxxxxxxxxx
PIN: xxx

Click: Go

UA 861 IAD 21:47 GRU 10:25 +1 763 FS- CS- YS-


KVS reports no award seats available ...
but when I go to the UA web site I find some:


http://www.united.com
click: Mileage Plus -> Redeem miles
Click: Book flights with miles

Award type: choose: Saver award
From: IAD
To: GRU
Departing: Dec 2007 26 Any time
Returning: Jan 2008 20 Any time
Passenger: Adult: 1
Service class: Business
Maximum stops: 1-stop
Click: Search

Flight UA 861 comes up as available on 26 Dec 2007
Flight UA 860 comes up as available on 20 Jan 2008


Is there an issue with the KVS query of the ANA award
inventory as compared to what United is displaying?

I've been trying to rebook some award travel for
late December through early January (yea, I know)
and coming up with basically nothing via the KVS tool.

I know the KVS tool *IS* displaying award inventory ...
because if you fill in the same info as above replacing
the 26 Dec 2007 date with 27 Mar 2008 ... KVS shows

UA 861 IAD 21:47 GRU 8:25 +1 763 FS- CS- YS+


Thanks!

SkyTeam awards dead?
 

Look back a couple weeks and don't see any issues while KVS is out....

Looking up SkyTeam awards is the only thing I that doesn't work in my 2.9.1 version. Both, behind and without proxy.

Everything else works including *A look ups.

KVS Star Aliance availability issues
 

After spending hours poring over lots of different routing for a United Mileage Plus saver award that would include travel on Star Alliance partners I've decided to give up.

The KVS tool indicated numerous flights on Lufthansa, Singapore and Thai with CS+ and YS+ availability but when speaking with UA 1P international reservations agents they were unable to see similar inventory in their system - and I spoke with multiple agents as well (all US based and not the off shore team).

I spent nearly an hour on the phone with one agent who was very kind and patient trying to help me build a successful saver award itinerary but we couldn't come up with anything that matched what I could find with the KVS tool. She indicated that maybe the system I was looking at (KVS is querying ANA?) had inventory from carriers for award travel that was not similarly shared with United / in the United system.

I'm not sure if this post really belongs here or may be better cross posted or moved to the UA MP forum.

Error when attempting to access DL seat maps from Worldspan
 

Error when trying to retreive DL seatmap from Worldspan and Galielo does npot support DL seat access.

System.Exception: Unable to display seat maps at ASP.map_ascx.Control_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e) in D:\TravelASP\globaltravelnpf\seatmap\map.ascx:line

UA likely provides additional award seats to its own elites (such as yourself). For obvious reasons, access to such inventory is not available using the ANA/StarNet *A Awards engine ...

WSpan Seat Maps are no longer available
 

Unfortunately, the WSpan Seat Map Engine has recently been decommissioned. However, a new seat map option (Amadeus), which supports DL and most other airlines, is expected to be introduced shortly.

There are no current problems with the SkyTeam Awards Method, so this must be an issue with your system...

What kind of an error message are you getting?

Unfortunately, UA is notorious for artificially restricting award redemptions on other carriers, and there are tens of threads on this very topic throughout FT ...

If the Tool says CS+/YS+, then UA can, with 99% certainty, book that award seat for you, and some agents do know how to do it. However, they may get in trouble for doing so ...

When i try and open up my saved PNR's i get a error -

Unable to start [C:\Program files\KVS availability tool\openurl.htm]
[Shell Execut] Error 5


This has got to do with me installing Mozilla Firefox on my computer and then uninstalling it. I know its my fault by I can't figure out how to get KVS tool to make IE as its default Internet explorer.

Have tried to update with the latest version and still facing the same problem. Can you help?

Sabre: Fares/ZUJ Not Working
 

KVS Error message:

---------------------------
KVS Availability Tool
---------------------------
Unable to Retrieve Fares:



"We cannot process your request."



"ASYNC query failed (rc eq 0). STBError: SABRE: FQ-VERIFY SELLING DAT errno=05009999 reply=<SABRE: FQ-VERIFY SELLING DAT><"



If the reason(s) for the above error message are unclear, please click the [?] button to review the latest system status announcements.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------


AND....
Where does one find information about the "NEW" feature listed on KVS Website " Fare Routing Rules/MPM Info"?
I would suggest hyperlinking that to some explanation of where that feature is / how to use it. ( http://kvs.unrealnetwork.com/Tool )


AND....
I would suggest updating/expanding the PRIVACY statement on the KVS website to disclose the actions which send specific user/system-identifiable information to the KVS Webserver (for example, clicking on the ?KVS Tool Website FAQ requests a URL that contains tracking information specifically identiftying the machine/user from which the click originated).

Thanks for the report -- a solution has now been posted on the KVS Tool Homepage.

This feature will be available in the upcoming version, and the relevant info will be added to the FAQ at that time ...

Clicking on the FAQ link does not "send specific user/system-identifiable information to the KVS Webserver". The ID, contained in the FAQ link, is actually my FT userid (see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=654120).

Pls see KVS Tool FAQ under "[ShellExecute] Error XX" for a solution.

That fixed it! Sorry about that, will check the FAQ's next time ;)

Just installed the download, now waiting for Reg code :D to see if all works.
Wish me luck.

Still waiting on Registration code? Trying not to get anxious!

Any advise?