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Kevincm Jul 11, 2007 1:30 pm

But does it blend?
 

Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 8039931)
It's amazing what the iPhone can do.

Just yesterday I ran out of refills for my Swiffer floor mop, so I stuck the iPhone to the bottom of the mop and hey presto! It managed to sweep up all the dust from my floor.

And last week I saw a bug on the wall, and the amazing iPhone was able to splat it with just ONE hit.

I don't know how I ever lived without my iPhone. It really has changed my life. No other phone I've ever owned has been able to clean the floor AND kill bugs.

But Wait ScottC!.... does the iPhone blend?
Only http://www.willitblend.com/videos.as...e&video=iphone or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puhOukf2aRE will tell you :D

Foady Jul 11, 2007 1:32 pm

Here's another fun one from Howard:

http://www.iphonetypingtest.com/

For the thread:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1198309

ScottC Jul 11, 2007 1:51 pm

haha!

http://www.pqdvd.com/dvd-to-ipod-mov...l#iphoneunlock

All we need now is a sim unlock tool :D

SFO 1K Jul 11, 2007 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by Foady (Post 8040263)
iPhone also seems to not like having an active EDGE session (dowloading, etc) and receiving a call at the same time.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305711

Note: While iPhone is actively transferring data over EDGE—downloading a webpage, for example—you may not be able to receive calls. Incoming calls may go to voicemail.

As typical mentioned in the post after the one quoted above, it may be a network issue. I have had the exact same "problem" with all my phones while doing data - voice service either kills the data transmission or the call goes to VM. If by design, Apple is rejecting the call to preserve the data session, that at least ensures consistency in how the device will handle that situation. ^

drummingcraig Jul 11, 2007 2:10 pm

My iPhone review
 
So I have now spent roughly one week giving my iPhone the "Full Monty", and I submitted some feedback to Apple via their support page (Note that this was submitted as a "Enhancement Request"). Here's what it looks like, and hopefully gives some idea of what I like and dislike about the phone. Overall I am very happy with it, and I am looking forward to watching some movies while flying over the Atlantic tomorrow night.

Craig


I am writing this after having spent a full week with my beautiful 8GB iPhone. I have been a loyal Apple user since I first began using Apple IIe's in elementary school. The iPhone is another great device in a long line of revolutionary computing creations.

That said, I thought I would give my "2 cents" about a few things that I (along with many others I am sure) would love to see changed in future software/hardware updates or revisions.

For starters, my previous phone for the past two years has been a Palm Treo 650...that gives you an idea where I am coming from.

Here are my suggestions for the various functions:

Email: Really need the ability to create new mail folders within the different email accounts. I use POP vs. IMAP and really am missing this feature which my Treo had. There also doesn't appear to be a way to save photos which come in via email and that would be nice. Wide-screen keyboard option would be lovely here as well.

Phone: It would be nice to have a one-touch dialing feature. Also, as many others have probably noted, the call volume needs to be considerably louder. Under "Recents" there should be more categorization than just "All" or "Missed". What about about differentiating between "Dialed", "Received", and "Missed"?

SMS: First, a "quick-note" or template feature is badly needed along with graphic smileys. Secondly, MMS functionality needs to be added. Last, but not least, please let us use the wide-screen keyboard option when typing text messages!!!

iPod: Perfect!!! :)

iCal: Support for the color coding of different calendars was a BIG motivator for me buying this phone. I was sorely disappointed to see that it doesn't exist. :(

Safari: Two issues here..."copy and paste" and opening links in new windows. We need both!

Ringtones: I am sure there are various laws, copyright issues and underlying corporate intentions involved here, but why in the heck cannot we not use a song from the iPod as a ringtone?!?!?!?!?
Also, it would be nice to have customizable sounds for the different alerts (ie new SMS, new voicemail, etc).I think support for third-party ringtones in general would be a HUGE addition.

Camera: Works well and takes nice pics for a phone, but the light sensitivity is a little off at times. Video capture would be nice as well.

General: I think the biggest thing I would ask for here would be the ability to customize the "home" screen of the iPhone. As a musician who doesn't play the stock market, I pressed the "Stocks" button once to see what it does, and will probably never use it again. It would be neat to be able to replace that with another app. or a shortcut to another feature or setting.

Thank you for taking the time to read my comments and most of all thanks for making such an innovative product!

Vunder31 Jul 11, 2007 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by typical (Post 8040329)
It could be the iPhone is only a GPRS Class C device - but probably more likely is that the AT&T network is a NOM 3 network. In other words, it doesn't matter what phone you have - when you're attached to GPRS, the network won't be able to route calls to the phone.

Edit: Having said that, some people over on Howard's are saying Apple told them this is a design decision by Apple - the network will route the call but the iPhone will silently refuse it. Pretty surprising if so, though it neatly avoids some nasty audio routing race conditions ;)

My GPRS phone on the AT&T network can do browsing while on a call, so I think it is a limitation (or "enhancement" according to the iPhone supporters...) in the iPhone, not the network.

CrazyOne Jul 11, 2007 4:40 pm


Originally Posted by Kevincm (Post 8040382)
But Wait ScottC!.... does the iPhone blend?
Only http://www.willitblend.com/videos.as...e&video=iphone or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puhOukf2aRE will tell you :D

Dude, I posted that way upthread :p http://flyertalk.com/forum/showpost....&postcount=685

(When I couldn't sleep last night, I found it.)

The discussion of such and such phone could do all this 5 years ago is the same old stuff. Maybe so, although I doubt they were as small or as easy to use. The iPhone is clearly not about WHAT it does (many other devices do more things) it's about HOW it does it (most if not all other devices are more cumbersome at doing most of the things the iPhone does).

NickP 1K Jul 12, 2007 11:36 am

For those confused on why data + voice works or doesn't work see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General..._Radio_Service

look at the device classes.

SOME (e.g. very few devices) support Class A, but most EDGE/GPRS devices support Class B. Meaning either drop the data connection or drop the voice ability during data. Would have been nice if Apple gives a choice.

For UMTS/3G networks by default they can do both at the same time. e.g. my Nokia E61i when using T-Mobile in the US will suspend the data connection when a voice call comes in. In Germany on a UMTS network it will continue the data connection during a voice call.

Jimmie76 Jul 12, 2007 12:30 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 8039931)
It's amazing what the iPhone can do.

Just yesterday I ran out of refills for my Swiffer floor mop, so I stuck the iPhone to the bottom of the mop and hey presto! It managed to sweep up all the dust from my floor.

And last week I saw a bug on the wall, and the amazing iPhone was able to splat it with just ONE hit.

I don't know how I ever lived without my iPhone. It really has changed my life. No other phone I've ever owned has been able to clean the floor AND kill bugs.

ROTFLMAO :D

Jimmie76 Jul 12, 2007 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 8040046)
Not really ;)

You are comparing 2 non-smartphones (2 SE models) to a smartphone with a large hi-res display.

I've scanned barcodes off my screen several times (and can even use the camera in my phone to SCAN the barcodes themselves).

If you had owned anything with a decent screen resolution then yes, you would have been able to do what the iPhone can do ages ago.

Now I will say this; what you did is probably EASIER on the iPhone, that is one thing that is revolutionary. The rest is just what any modern smartphone can do.

That said; couldn't you have just swiped your CC at Sears? You don't HAVE to scan the barcode ;) Last time I did a merchandise pickup I also didn't have the pickup slip with me, so I just swiped my card and the merchandise arrived within 2 minutes. And I didn't even need an iPhone.

I've seen people doing this in the UK for a while without the need for an Iphone, what amazed me was that the guard of the train I was on when I saw the technology used recently, had a barcode scanner with him. What I found more amazing was that it worked first time, although I did see someone with a heavily scratched screen getting rejected.

CrazyOne Jul 12, 2007 9:19 pm

Full access to Zimbra on the iPhone, no stupid desktop sync. http://www.zimbra.com/blog/archives/...7/izimbra.html

Maybe now I can justify one for work. :D

Of course a big part of Zimbra's appeal is the AJAX-based web client, so a lot of the groundwork is already in place, but they hacked out an iPhone-specific version in 2 weeks! Since it's through the Safari web interface on the phone, everything you create would go right onto the server anyway, so there is really no sync at all, it's just access, just the way you would reach it from any other browser. But instead of a lot of scrolling and such it's tailored for the iPhone screen.

ScottC Jul 13, 2007 5:35 am


Originally Posted by NickP 1K (Post 8045737)
For those confused on why data + voice works or doesn't work see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General..._Radio_Service

look at the device classes.

SOME (e.g. very few devices) support Class A, but most EDGE/GPRS devices support Class B. Meaning either drop the data connection or drop the voice ability during data. Would have been nice if Apple gives a choice.

For UMTS/3G networks by default they can do both at the same time. e.g. my Nokia E61i when using T-Mobile in the US will suspend the data connection when a voice call comes in. In Germany on a UMTS network it will continue the data connection during a voice call.

Dropping the connection is normal, but actually blocking incoming voice calls during a data session sounds more like a bug than anything else.

Seahawk_6 Jul 13, 2007 6:11 am


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 8049778)
...actually blocking incoming voice calls during a data session sounds more like a bug than anything else.

Enhancement. Enhancement. Please learn/love the fanboi vocab. Think of it as an enhancement in the same way that losing a hand under Sharia law is an enhanced weight loss program. You're no longer bothered with that pesky heavy appendage.

I spent the last week using my brother's iPhone while he's been in Costa Rica on vacation. I'm pretty impressed by the way in which you interact with the phone (the interface from both a hardware and software perspective) but IMO the capabilities of the phone are not up to snuff w/respect to its other qualities. The lack of 3G is unconscionable in a phone that costs $600, etc. I think the iPhone speaks very well of what the future will bring...but IMO there are better (from a practical perspective) phones available now.

DWP Jul 13, 2007 5:48 pm

iPhone
 
Has anyone had any problems with Outlook 2007 and I-tunes? After I downloaded I-tunes and activated my phone I started having problems with Outlook crashing every 10 minutes. Had to re-install office and now I hesitate to reload the I-tunes software for fear of spending another hour or 2
working on this stuff.

nmenaker Jul 14, 2007 1:12 pm

always wonder
 

Originally Posted by KevAZ (Post 8037042)
Ahh, but it is not secure known delivery method that will recover partially delivered emails and confirm the receipt by the intended receiver. Blackberry and GoodLink have the corner on this market.

There are loads of other security concerns that I won't waste bandwidth detailing here. However, I found it extremely curious that even for a consumer device, they didn't include an app that allows you to wipe memory and lock the device remotely. Treos and Blackberries both have this functionality either native or third party. It's just too damned easy to have an app to do this to leave it out.

I always wonder what people mean by exhange activeysnc not being a secure protocol? Do you mean, that the transmission through the cellular network is not encrypted? Or, that the protocol and security certificate structure is too easily hackable and that the blackberry protocol used is better?

As for remote wipe, this can be done with any device running exchange activesync 2003 sp2 or higher, from the exchange side. Granted, the device has to be pingable, so in theory someone would be able to shutoff transmission of the device and then could remove data. But, that is true of any device that isn't using a LOCAL password access, with lockout being a device wipe. Which, as you point out has been either native or via third party on many WM devices for years and years. But, I think that few people are enabling that security structure on the device level.


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