i would call it
I-Call
i call, you call, we call.
i-phone sound lame anyway.
dp
I-Call
i call, you call, we call. i-phone sound lame anyway.
dp
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agree... that 23% interest rate pretty much a giveaway with the bad with managing credit part.Originally Posted by Tummy
That's really presumptuous of you to think that everyone has the same needs or wants as you do from a device. Also to think that everyone has the same financial constrains and is bad with managing credit.
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In my company (a mobile services company) we have about 12 people with WM5 phones. Most people -- like myself -- use it in blackberry fashion -- that is, for OTA Activesync (push email) and as a basic phone +calendar device.Originally Posted by derpelikan
windows mobile is the most unstable and frozing crashing operating system i can think of. i dont know what kind of apps you are runnin
No one -- myself included -- has significant issues. As a point of reference, I had vastly more issues with PalmOS 600/650/700's which were my path to the 700wx.
Steve
Version 5 of WM is reportedly vastly more stable than previous releases. My friends who switch to the Blackjack which has WM 5.0 are elated at how stable it is. No crashes.
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Apple did an end-run around the law, filing trademark applications in Trinidad and Tobago and then in Australia. Cisco charges "willful and malicious violation of Ciscos trademark rights, aimed at preventing Cisco from continuing to build a business around a markthat it has long possessed".
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=4267&tag=nl.e589
Apple pulled a fast one on Apple Music on that trademark, but I have a feeling they'll get their clock cleaned on this one.
I like this clause- it won't happen, but it sounds good:
Methinks Apple has no intention of using the iPhone name on production packaging. That doesn't matter though. Apple can call it anything they want but the public will continue to call it iPhone and those who fall into the Apple demographic will buy (I'm betting some variation of iPod naming).Originally Posted by Gargoyle
Cisco has filed a trademark infringement suit against Apple. Looks like Cisco has owned the iPhone name since 2000; the name was patented in 1999. Apple has been trying to buy or license it since 2001, but Cisco has use of the name so they've kept it.Apple did an end-run around the law, filing trademark applications in Trinidad and Tobago and then in Australia. Cisco charges "willful and malicious violation of Ciscos trademark rights, aimed at preventing Cisco from continuing to build a business around a markthat it has long possessed".
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=4267&tag=nl.e589
Apple pulled a fast one on Apple Music on that trademark, but I have a feeling they'll get their clock cleaned on this one.
I like this clause- it won't happen, but it sounds good:
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I-Call
I was thinking that too!Originally Posted by derpelikan
i would call it I-Call
But this device does a lot more than call. What about an intriguing name like i*
? What about iGo?I predict <apple>Phone with an apple logo in place of the word.
The name iTV was also taken, which is presumably why they switched to <apple>TV. I think they were willing to compromise there because the company who developed the iTV (which is actually called eyeTV) happens to be a valued Apple developer.
The name iTV was also taken, which is presumably why they switched to <apple>TV. I think they were willing to compromise there because the company who developed the iTV (which is actually called eyeTV) happens to be a valued Apple developer.
FlyerTalk Evangelist
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http://www.watercoolergames.org/archives/000723.shtml
Also, I'm told that users can not change the battery. For heavy phone users this is a problem.Originally Posted by ScottC
Apple shoots itself in the foot:http://www.watercoolergames.org/archives/000723.shtml
iGenius
Slightly off topic - more on the man than the phone.
iGenius
Mr. Jobs is the most paradoxical of creatures. On the one hand, though time and mortality have mellowed him, he remains something of a monster. If, like me, you grew up in the same neighborhood, went to the same school, interviewed him in the early days of Apple, and even wrote a book about him and his company, there will always be things about him that are unforgivable -- cruelties and manipulations (especially to Steve Wozniak), early crimes (illegal telephones, ironically), megalomania, and an unquenchable need to take credit from others (Do you know who led the original Mac team? Invented the iPod? Devised the new iPhone? I didn't think so) -- and that no achievement will ever erase.
Yet there is no denying that Mr. Jobs is a business genius, the greatest marketer of our time, the most charismatic figure in electronics history. And he is the only really interesting person left in high tech, once the liveliest, most maverick corner of the industrial world. Sometimes, he seems like the only guy left in tech who's having fun.
That's why even tech people who are repelled by Mr. Jobs and his style caught their breaths a few years ago when he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, and again a couple weeks ago when he was linked to some shady backdating of Apple stock options. More than one Silicon Valley leader privately muttered that for the sake of high tech and American competitiveness, it might be best if the Feds just forgot all about the matter.
This week, Mr. Jobs showed just what he can do when he's in good health and sitting on a cool new product. There were great products at the CES, but after Tuesday no one noticed. The iPhone, which won't be shipped until June, suffers from a number of classic Apple-under-Jobs weaknesses: not enough memory, probably not enough battery, a comparatively large (though wonderfully thin) case, a touch screen that will infuriate cell phone users and scratch up like the early iPods, and an unpopular distribution partner (Cingular). And the iPhone is stunningly expensive ($500 plus a two-year Cingular commitment).
But who cares? As Mr. Jobs said, the iPhone is going to revolutionize the phone. Not because it offers anything fundamentally new, but because it brilliantly ties together nearly all of the currently disparate portable consumer tech functions into a single exquisite package driven by a powerful and intuitive interface......The iPhone will transform the market because unlike other tech mavericks who try to push the envelope, Mr. Jobs can introduce the iPhone, even in a clumsy, overpriced 1.0 version, and trust that the army of several million Apple true believers will rush out and buy.
That is the crucial, often overlooked, key to Apple's continuing success. Other wildcatters have to pray the market recognizes their brilliant new products quickly enough before they go bankrupt. Apple, by comparison, always knows that it will be able to finance versions 2.0, 3.0, etc., on sales to its captive market -- and by then, it will have perfected a definitive product the whole world wants to own. Mr. Jobs recognized the power of communities a generation before the current Web 2.0 crowd and is now its greatest master.
A question remains: Why do none of his competitors adopt Mr. Jobs's business strategy? It's not like there's a shortage of good design engineers and smart code writers. So why do so many tech products these days seem so alien to human nature? Only the game console companies seem to have some of Apple's risk-taking and cleverness. Is it a lack of courage? An unwillingness to trust the creativity of employees? If it's a fear of failure, Apple's immense success (and skyrocketing stock price) ought to teach otherwise.
Whatever the reason, it's not likely to disappear soon. We can't count on an outbreak of cleverness in tech in the near future. So that leaves Mr. Jobs. For all his demons, thank God for him in this age of cookie-cutter CEOs. For a decade now (and for another decade at the beginning of the PC age) he has run the most enthralling and rewarding show in high tech. Let's hope he gives us at least one decade more.
iGenius
Mr. Jobs is the most paradoxical of creatures. On the one hand, though time and mortality have mellowed him, he remains something of a monster. If, like me, you grew up in the same neighborhood, went to the same school, interviewed him in the early days of Apple, and even wrote a book about him and his company, there will always be things about him that are unforgivable -- cruelties and manipulations (especially to Steve Wozniak), early crimes (illegal telephones, ironically), megalomania, and an unquenchable need to take credit from others (Do you know who led the original Mac team? Invented the iPod? Devised the new iPhone? I didn't think so) -- and that no achievement will ever erase.
Yet there is no denying that Mr. Jobs is a business genius, the greatest marketer of our time, the most charismatic figure in electronics history. And he is the only really interesting person left in high tech, once the liveliest, most maverick corner of the industrial world. Sometimes, he seems like the only guy left in tech who's having fun.
That's why even tech people who are repelled by Mr. Jobs and his style caught their breaths a few years ago when he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, and again a couple weeks ago when he was linked to some shady backdating of Apple stock options. More than one Silicon Valley leader privately muttered that for the sake of high tech and American competitiveness, it might be best if the Feds just forgot all about the matter.
This week, Mr. Jobs showed just what he can do when he's in good health and sitting on a cool new product. There were great products at the CES, but after Tuesday no one noticed. The iPhone, which won't be shipped until June, suffers from a number of classic Apple-under-Jobs weaknesses: not enough memory, probably not enough battery, a comparatively large (though wonderfully thin) case, a touch screen that will infuriate cell phone users and scratch up like the early iPods, and an unpopular distribution partner (Cingular). And the iPhone is stunningly expensive ($500 plus a two-year Cingular commitment).
But who cares? As Mr. Jobs said, the iPhone is going to revolutionize the phone. Not because it offers anything fundamentally new, but because it brilliantly ties together nearly all of the currently disparate portable consumer tech functions into a single exquisite package driven by a powerful and intuitive interface......The iPhone will transform the market because unlike other tech mavericks who try to push the envelope, Mr. Jobs can introduce the iPhone, even in a clumsy, overpriced 1.0 version, and trust that the army of several million Apple true believers will rush out and buy.
That is the crucial, often overlooked, key to Apple's continuing success. Other wildcatters have to pray the market recognizes their brilliant new products quickly enough before they go bankrupt. Apple, by comparison, always knows that it will be able to finance versions 2.0, 3.0, etc., on sales to its captive market -- and by then, it will have perfected a definitive product the whole world wants to own. Mr. Jobs recognized the power of communities a generation before the current Web 2.0 crowd and is now its greatest master.
A question remains: Why do none of his competitors adopt Mr. Jobs's business strategy? It's not like there's a shortage of good design engineers and smart code writers. So why do so many tech products these days seem so alien to human nature? Only the game console companies seem to have some of Apple's risk-taking and cleverness. Is it a lack of courage? An unwillingness to trust the creativity of employees? If it's a fear of failure, Apple's immense success (and skyrocketing stock price) ought to teach otherwise.
Whatever the reason, it's not likely to disappear soon. We can't count on an outbreak of cleverness in tech in the near future. So that leaves Mr. Jobs. For all his demons, thank God for him in this age of cookie-cutter CEOs. For a decade now (and for another decade at the beginning of the PC age) he has run the most enthralling and rewarding show in high tech. Let's hope he gives us at least one decade more.
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Thanks for doing that, because I enjoyed the article. Unfortunately, it's a TOS violation, so you should probably edit your post and cut some out.Originally Posted by dtsm
Slightly off topic - more on the man than the phone. Unfortunately you need to be paid subscriber to WSJ to read on-line so I had to cut/paste entire article - apologies for clogging your screen.
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http://www.watercoolergames.org/archives/000723.shtml
That really sucks. I hope it's only closed until they can get a dev environment and sdk together.Originally Posted by ScottC
Apple shoots itself in the foot:http://www.watercoolergames.org/archives/000723.shtml
If we're insisting on an i-moniker, what about iMobile (possible issues with T-Mobile?)? Or iSpeak? Although if you think about it, this really is an attempt at an iTablet of sorts...or dare I mention its name...Son of Newton?
PS: Skype has been running on Windows Mobile for a little while now
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Well, what can I say? Your mileage may vary. Perhaps the patron saint of Windows Mobile decided to forsake you.Originally Posted by derpelikan
windows mobile is the most unstable and frozing crashing operating system i can think of. i dont know what kind of apps you are runnin, but i am happy i got skype on my sony M600 and p990 runnin now.
PS: Skype has been running on Windows Mobile for a little while now
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I think you're probably right - it is about money. I did think it was interesting that the GC of the company would post a blog about it, and claim it's not. I wouldn't assume that it's case closed though. Apple's three main strenghts are product design, marketing, and lawsuits. I'd be surprised if they didn't have some sort of defense formulated.Originally Posted by ClueByFour
That's interesting. It's about the money, though. Cisco is not exactly going to win friends with claims or history of "interoperability." I give you SCCP, HSRP, EIGRP, VTP, and ISL (off the top of my head--and that's before I get to their early VPN clients). I think (and have heard from people in the know at Cisco) that they were more than a little bit miffed about Apple figuring they'd throw the product launch, register iPhone as a trademark in someplace like Trinidad, and generally "get to Cisco in due time." The boys and girls on Tazman Drive don't take well to that sort of thing, much less from Apple (who generally pimp-slaps anyone who gets within 100 feet of any of it's trademarks).
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Cingular and Apple claim that there will not be business discounts on the iPhone, even for those with Cingular Premier pricing.Originally Posted by SkaterJasp
I saw the iPhone in action at Macworld and it seems to run really smooth and fast for all the feature. The internet portion loaded kind of slow on it, but its alot faster than a smaller page trying to load on my new PDA with WiFi. I really like the multi touch feature which allow you to more than one fingers on the phone (so you can zoom in and out of a picture was what they did to show off the multi touch feature). Also you can type pretty fast on it for a touch screen. Apple has full control over the distribution of these phones and the way the agreements were made, it seems like you can only buy the phone from Cingular or Apple directly for the first few months. I also read that Apple had more say in what the first generation iPhone can and can not have such as it can not have a 3G network but during the keynote Steve Jobs indicated that there may be a future version with 3G. Now is it worth $499 for a 4GB and $599 for a 8GB? Knowing that Steve Jobs hinted at his own keynote at Macworld that there will be a 3G version of the iPhone, I would wait for that. But since I get employee discount on all Apple products and Cingular services through a EPP program at my work, I'm gonna buy it anyways when it hit the market in June. Than if Apple does come out with a 3G version, I guess I'll get that one too. (They say the phone will hit the market in June at Macworld.)
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