Passengers who don't turn off their devices
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Originally Posted by CandymanJim
I typically place my cell phone on a clip right next to the panel when I fly, if I forget to turn it off I WILL GET INTERFERENCE ON MY COMMUNCATION radios. Granted it is only 6 inches from the panel. I have had issues with it affecting my GPS navigation as well. Regulations are there for a reason, like it or not, while you may disagree with them, you should repsect them, and me as we may be sitting right next to you, or you could deal with the wrath of my wife!
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#33
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I got a Treo phone last January. I flew to HI in April for the first time with that phone. There is a way to just turn off the radio on it, which I did. Upon arriving in HNL, I found my battery dead. Apparently, that thing turns itself on and checks email and stuff. It was in a bag the whole time, and must have been searching for a signal or something the whole flight to kill the battery. Nobody said anything to me and it apparently did not screw up the flight. On the way home I just pulled out the battery.
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Originally Posted by ORDinary Gold
"What if the FAA is not completely full of crap on this, and you crash? And you last thoughts on this planet will be about how stupid you were for not opening your mouth."
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I am also of the MYOB school of thought. Unless the other passenger was somehow infringing upon me personally, I'll always look the other way.
If I remember, I always turn my cell phone off (a couple of times it's been on the whole flight because for whatever reason, I forgot to turn it off), and the only other device I'd use would be my computer, which is always stowed under my seat for takeoff/landing anyhow.
If I remember, I always turn my cell phone off (a couple of times it's been on the whole flight because for whatever reason, I forgot to turn it off), and the only other device I'd use would be my computer, which is always stowed under my seat for takeoff/landing anyhow.
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Originally Posted by oklAAhoma
I was wondering the same thing.
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#38
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I firmly believe that the rule is dumber than dumb. And I have NEVER seen verifiable evidence that a cell phone has EVER interfered with flight. And I would mind my own business when seeing others using electronic equipment UNLESS it was causing ME an issue (like a loud toy).
BUT, if the crew gives you an instruction, and you fail to obey, you can EASILY expect to be greeted by police officers on landing. The more overt your defiance, the greater likeliehood you will be detained.
BUT, if the crew gives you an instruction, and you fail to obey, you can EASILY expect to be greeted by police officers on landing. The more overt your defiance, the greater likeliehood you will be detained.
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Originally Posted by 925
I firmly believe that the rule is dumber than dumb. And I have NEVER seen verifiable evidence that a cell phone has EVER interfered with flight. And I would mind my own business when seeing others using electronic equipment UNLESS it was causing ME an issue (like a loud toy).
BUT, if the crew gives you an instruction, and you fail to obey, you can EASILY expect to be greeted by police officers on landing. The more overt your defiance, the greater likeliehood you will be detained.
BUT, if the crew gives you an instruction, and you fail to obey, you can EASILY expect to be greeted by police officers on landing. The more overt your defiance, the greater likeliehood you will be detained.
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Originally Posted by Torgen
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The restrictions on cell phone use in flight has nothing to do with flight safety. Its a problem of the cell phone reaching out to too many towers because there are no obstructions (hopefully) between the airplane and numerous cell towers.
See the Congressional testimony from the Chief of the Office of Engineering and Technology at the Federal Communications Commission - "The Commission’s rules specifically prohibit the use of cellular transmitters on aircraft, except for aircraft on the ground. This prohibition was not done to protect the aircraft’s avionics systems from interference from the cellular transmitter. Rather, this prohibition was made to protect the cellular service from interference. As the altitude of a cellular handheld transmitter increases, so do its transmission range and, consequently, its coverage area. At high altitudes, such as would be achieve from an in-flight aircraft, the handheld unit places its signal over several cellular base stations, preventing other cellular users within range of those base stations from using the same frequency. This would increase the number of blocked or dropped cellular calls."
He did defer to the FAA regarding the impact on avionics.
http://www.house.gov/transportation/.../hatfield.html
See the Congressional testimony from the Chief of the Office of Engineering and Technology at the Federal Communications Commission - "The Commission’s rules specifically prohibit the use of cellular transmitters on aircraft, except for aircraft on the ground. This prohibition was not done to protect the aircraft’s avionics systems from interference from the cellular transmitter. Rather, this prohibition was made to protect the cellular service from interference. As the altitude of a cellular handheld transmitter increases, so do its transmission range and, consequently, its coverage area. At high altitudes, such as would be achieve from an in-flight aircraft, the handheld unit places its signal over several cellular base stations, preventing other cellular users within range of those base stations from using the same frequency. This would increase the number of blocked or dropped cellular calls."
He did defer to the FAA regarding the impact on avionics.
http://www.house.gov/transportation/.../hatfield.html
#42
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Originally Posted by AA53
The crew DOES give instruction on every flight. Why is it so hard for people to follow the rules (whether you agree or not)?
Or - When was the last time you sat in an exit row seat and actually read the safety card in the pocket - as they tell you to.
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Originally Posted by chewy3
Valid point, but an emergency situation can occur at anytime not just during takeoff and landing.
I also don't understand the no reclining and trays up rule (especially when Y seats only recline 2 in anyway.)
I also don't understand the no reclining and trays up rule (especially when Y seats only recline 2 in anyway.)
No reclining and trays up (especially in economy) are to allow for a smoother evacuation -no trays to climb over and seat backs are not blocking the way.
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Originally Posted by Deltahater
Sometimes, I even leave it plug into the powerport with the cord stretching from between the seats into my seat pocket.
If I saw someone with a power cord going from the powerport (which is usually underneath your row) to the seat back (in front of you), I would probably ask (politely) that you unplug it and properly stow your laptop.
#45
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I didn't shut off my computer once, and the plane landed without incident; no FAMs there to arrest me as I deplaned either.
There were few people on the flight, had the row to myself; I was watching a movie, my earbud headphones were in, volume turned up. The computer was on the floor (eyeglasses were in my checked bag). I felt a bump and the laptop started sliding forward. I looked up- a little bewildered and saw the runway out the window. Closed the laptop, stuck it in the carry on and got ready to disembark. No one said anything to me.
There were few people on the flight, had the row to myself; I was watching a movie, my earbud headphones were in, volume turned up. The computer was on the floor (eyeglasses were in my checked bag). I felt a bump and the laptop started sliding forward. I looked up- a little bewildered and saw the runway out the window. Closed the laptop, stuck it in the carry on and got ready to disembark. No one said anything to me.