Passengers who don't turn off their devices
Oct 30, 2006, 6:40 pm
#16
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Originally Posted by AA53
Several years ago, a WN flight from SAT to DAL couldn't land because a cell phone interfered with the flight nav. The pilot turned the plane around and returned to SAT. The offending pax was found and arrested.. Follow instructions or take the chance...and I will call the FA.
Oct 30, 2006, 6:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Teacher49
Actually, I do turn off all devices out of respect for the poor souls whose job it is to enforce these silly rules. We have all seen so many who do not follow the rules and yet we reach the correct airport anyway ...
Oct 30, 2006, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by AA53
Several years ago, a WN flight from SAT to DAL couldn't land because a cell phone interfered with the flight nav. The pilot turned the plane around and returned to SAT. The offending pax was found and arrested.. Follow instructions or take the chance...and I will call the FA.
Oct 30, 2006, 6:46 pm
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Originally Posted by ihdihd
I have a hard time believing that. Sounds like burning the witches to me. To that pilot the difference between causation and correlation are non-existent, and as soon as they saw someone on their cell phone they assumed it was the cause of the issue.
Again, I (and a few companies looking to make bids for open sky micro-cells) have trouble seeing how a cell phone in anyone sitting as close as 1A could interfere with the nav control, unless its the pilot's phone and he had it resting comfortably on top of his console.
Again, I (and a few companies looking to make bids for open sky micro-cells) have trouble seeing how a cell phone in anyone sitting as close as 1A could interfere with the nav control, unless its the pilot's phone and he had it resting comfortably on top of his console.
Oct 30, 2006, 6:59 pm
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Originally Posted by jmplatinum
I frequently leave my cell phone on and almost always leave my computer in standby mode.
I always turn my phone off, unless I forget, and I never, ever turn my computer off. I put it on stand-by, so when we cross 10,000 ft, I can turn it back on easily.
Sometimes, I even leave it plug into the powerport with the cord stretching from between the seats into my seat pocket.
Air travel is already inefficient enough due to TSA...
Oct 30, 2006, 7:00 pm
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Originally Posted by chewy3
What a ridiculous rule. I always use my ipod if not told directly to shut it off. An ipod will not bring down a 737.
I think that elecs other than phones are asked to be off during takeoff and landing so that passengers are not distracted by headphones etc. This is in the same vain as no reclining and trays up. They want to be able to communicate easily if an emergency arises.
Oct 30, 2006, 7:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Mr. Vker
I think that elecs other than phones are asked to be off during takeoff and landing so that passengers are not distracted by headphones etc. This is in the same vain as no reclining and trays up. They want to be able to communicate easily if an emergency arises.
I also don't understand the no reclining and trays up rule (especially when Y seats only recline 2 in anyway.)
Oct 30, 2006, 7:12 pm
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[QUOTE=CandymanJim]As a pilot, I have seen firsthand cell (Nextel) issues with my GPS, but I dont think it is really a problem with most airlines, but when they say turn it off, you should turn it off.
Funny story, just this last summer the guy behind me would not turn off his cell phone during takeoff and the stewerdess let him have it. the jerk then asked the guy sitting next to him if he was selfish. The guy proceeded to tell him he was an idiot, but did it in a professional, tackfull manner that I could not have put so eloquently. Since he was out of my view I could only draw a face to match the voice and I kept coming up with Elliott Gould. when I got off the plane (SWA - LAX-OAK) I noticed it was in fact Elliot Gould. I stood next to him while waiting for our baggage and told him what a great job he did in putting this guy in his place.
The core issue here is that it is the regulation.
The regulation itself, I'm sure will be modified at some point in the near future.
Listening to people who choose to flaunt the role are irritating and should be flogged, not because they are likely to take the plane down, but because they are irrogant.
On short flights I turn my Blackberry to vibrate and go to sleep...
Until the idiot next to me starts to speak during the taxi to the runway!
Funny story, just this last summer the guy behind me would not turn off his cell phone during takeoff and the stewerdess let him have it. the jerk then asked the guy sitting next to him if he was selfish. The guy proceeded to tell him he was an idiot, but did it in a professional, tackfull manner that I could not have put so eloquently. Since he was out of my view I could only draw a face to match the voice and I kept coming up with Elliott Gould. when I got off the plane (SWA - LAX-OAK) I noticed it was in fact Elliot Gould. I stood next to him while waiting for our baggage and told him what a great job he did in putting this guy in his place.
The core issue here is that it is the regulation.
The regulation itself, I'm sure will be modified at some point in the near future.
Listening to people who choose to flaunt the role are irritating and should be flogged, not because they are likely to take the plane down, but because they are irrogant.
On short flights I turn my Blackberry to vibrate and go to sleep...
Until the idiot next to me starts to speak during the taxi to the runway!
Oct 30, 2006, 7:20 pm
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Originally Posted by elitetraveler
I guess when the airlines figure a way to get a cut of the in-air cell calls, they will decide the risk of cellphones interfering with aircraft systems is so low it is not an issue - sort of like ETOPs.
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...s_x.htm?csp=34
I think the thing people object to isn't so much the rules themselves, but being lied to about the reasons for them (namely, that you'll cause some kind of radio interference that will crash the plane).
Oct 30, 2006, 7:25 pm
#28
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Originally Posted by AA53
Several years ago, a WN flight from SAT to DAL couldn't land because a cell phone interfered with the flight nav. The pilot turned the plane around and returned to SAT. The offending pax was found and arrested.. Follow instructions or take the chance...and I will call the FA.
That coupled with the likelihood that on every commercial passenger flight there are several phones left on, I'm not going to get too excited about it, even during a Cat III landing. I'd be more concerned about who is cross-checking the doors, now that most flights have a single person at each station.
Oct 30, 2006, 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
No, I'm a firm believer in the MYOB school of thought.
Oct 30, 2006, 7:44 pm
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I typically place my cell phone on a clip right next to the panel when I fly, if I forget to turn it off I WILL GET INTERFERENCE ON MY COMMUNCATION radios. Granted it is only 6 inches from the panel. I have had issues with it affecting my GPS navigation as well. Regulations are there for a reason, like it or not, while you may disagree with them, you should repsect them, and me as we may be sitting right next to you, or you could deal with the wrath of my wife!
Jim
Jim