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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 1:13 am
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Originally Posted by sxpsxpsxp
I don't know about the GPS receiver, though. I once actually asked the pilot if I could use a GPS receiver on board, and he said sure, no problem. Of course I couldn't get any signal because all that darn metal above interfered with a clear view of the sky, but hey, the plane didn't crash.
American has banned the use of GPS receivers on board since July 2000. In reality the decision is up to the pilot.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 1:24 am
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Originally Posted by r3guru
I use a phone with a bluetooth headset. It's set-up to answer the call after one ring.

Sometimes I'll hear my phone ring (from the overhead locker) shortly after take-off, or before landing, followed by a 'Hello are you there' from my shirt pocket (sometimes it's my trouser pocket, wherever I stuffed the headset before the flight).

So what you are saying is you don't bother to turn your phone off as instructed?

Are you to lazy to bother to stupid to understand the request or to arrogant to think it isn't aimed at you?

Although we can debate the logic of the ban in flight it is still in place so just comply.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by grouse
American has banned the use of GPS receivers on board since July 2000. In reality the decision is up to the pilot.
I never said the flight was on AA. It was a DL flight a couple of years ago. As I said, I don't see the point of the ban -- the GPS receiver won't work in the cabin anyway since it can't see enough satellites.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by sxpsxpsxp
I never said the flight was on AA. It was a DL flight a couple of years ago. As I said, I don't see the point of the ban -- the GPS receiver won't work in the cabin anyway since it can't see enough satellites.
If the antenna is placed against the window, it will usually get enough satellites for a good fix.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:03 am
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Originally Posted by CT-UK
So what you are saying is you don't bother to turn your phone off as instructed?

Are you to lazy to bother to stupid to understand the request or to arrogant to think it isn't aimed at you?

Although we can debate the logic of the ban in flight it is still in place so just comply.

Gee, that's kind of harsh. It's possible to forget. I've forgotten at times since I don't actually "listen" to the announcements anymore. Since mine's in my pocket, it's easy to rectify. But it can happen.

By the way, in your invective-laden sentence above, it should be "too" and not "to" in three places. Or is this just the laziness of not tying the three extra 'o'-s?

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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by sxpsxpsxp
I think it'd be cool to be able to use a cell phone, but does this mean that it'll only work with Verizon, being they're the only carrier in the USA that uses CDMA?
There are multiple 2G (second generation) carriers in the USA that use CDMA, Verizon Wireless and Sprint being the biggest.

All 3G wireless is CDMA, so Qualcomm (which holds the patents for CDMA) may be preparing for the future.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by CT-UK
So what you are saying is you don't bother to turn your phone off as instructed?

Are you to lazy to bother to stupid to understand the request or to arrogant to think it isn't aimed at you?
I've been called worse, but you can call me lazy , stupid and arrogant if you like, your choice.

I'd call it forgetful, or stuck in a window seat with my bag 5 rows back buried under the stroller and diaper bag from 21A.

Anyone ever used the restroom while the seatbelt sign is on? Perhaps it's just stupid, lazy arrogant me that does that?
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:41 am
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Here's to hoping that the test goes well, and that cell phone usage in flight is allowed sooner than the 24 month window that's projected.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by Napa
There are multiple 2G (second generation) carriers in the USA that use CDMA, Verizon Wireless and Sprint being the biggest.

All 3G wireless is CDMA, so Qualcomm (which holds the patents for CDMA) may be preparing for the future.
There still must be cells providing signal. On a couple of occasions I've forgotten to turn of my (Sprint 3G) phone. When I've looked at it before turning it off, there was no signal whatsoever- not even enough for a time synch...searching... This was at altitude, probably near final cruising altitude.

So, even if the experiment does work out ok, will it really be possible, in most cases, to actually use the phone?

Overall, I'd much prefer inflight wifi access. That would be sweet, and have much less impact on surrounding pax.

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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by r3guru
I've been called worse, but you can call me lazy , stupid and arrogant if you like, your choice.

I'd call it forgetful, or stuck in a window seat with my bag 5 rows back buried under the stroller and diaper bag from 21A.

Anyone ever used the restroom while the seatbelt sign is on? Perhaps it's just stupid, lazy arrogant me that does that?
Sorry, I misinterpreted your original post. For some reason I thought it was normal for you rather than a forgetful moment. As for me I am the other way as I want to check mine about 10 times just to be sure. Not for safety but just because I dont want the dam thing ringing loudly and have everybody look at me.

On the subject of going to the loo with the seat belt sign on, I dont I cross my legs and hold on until the thing goes off.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by bollar
If the antenna is placed against the window, it will usually get enough satellites for a good fix.
That's what I would've thought, since I had a window seat, but it didn't work. *shrug*
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by sxpsxpsxp
As I said, I don't see the point of the ban -- the GPS receiver won't work in the cabin anyway since it can't see enough satellites.
But if there's a chance that it causes interference, then it will cause interference even if it isn't working in the cabin! If it can cause interference, don't even play with it (especially during takeoff/landing).

I'll note that some airlines allow GPS use and some don't. Obviously the jury is out as far as they are concerned. AM/FM radio receivers are the nasty ones and no one allows them AFAIK.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by grouse
AM/FM radio receivers are the nasty ones and no one allows them AFAIK.
However, the emission level of a good-quality AM/FM receiver is 100 - 1000 times less than that of a mobile phone...
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 1:04 pm
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Angry Cellular jammers needed!!!

How much interference would a cellular jammer generate? I want one so bad.

This is total bullsh!t. I can't believe AA has the time to worry about installing this crap.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 1:10 pm
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If AA start cell phones in flight, I will fill my ears with Plaster of Paris, or switch to UA. I cannot stand hearing people talk about idiotic things from their meaningless lives. I never torture people with my meaningless life, why should I listen to their problems.

Being in the air is the only time I have peace and quiet..... I look forward to itv
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