eSIM thread
#1186
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
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Easy, switch to Verizon's Unlimited Ultimate plan; it includes unlimited calling and texting in 210 countries and to the US, 15GB of high speed international roaming data and 300 minutes of calls from the US to the country of your choice per billing period.
st T-Mobile plans give international data in (probably the same) 210 countries at the cost of a regular plan. While not super fast, it works just fine for most everything I do (I download offline maps for navigation). But this is the eSIM thread...
#1187

Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 346
If you have previously used Verizon Travel Pass you will need to turn this off, otherwise it can activate automatically when you turn your phone on in a foreign country. It is easy to do, I think you cant do it from the app but you can do it from the website or by calling Verizon. I have used eSIM for 4 years now, before that I used TravelPass but my company was paying, not me. eSIM prices have come down a lot, there is a lot of competition. For a 2 week trip I will buy 5GB and it costs me $10 or less for most places. For phone I use GoogleVoice, it is very cheap and works well. I also use WhatsApp. The key thing with eSIM is to make sure you turn data roaming off on your Primary, which is your cell phone provider. The eSIM will be in secondary, turn data roaming on and turn Wi-Fi calling on. I hope this is helpful information.
#1188




Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SJC
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I have an eSIM from T-Mobile with international data included, but I also get additional eSIMs as a supplement. While the 256 kbps included data can work for light activities, I often enjoy having high speed data. While most places I've gone have been included destinations with T-Mobile, a few haven't been. The Cook Islands comes to mind. Since the hotel where I was staying was still charging daily for Wi-Fi in 2024, an eSIM was more economical and allowed for data access when away from the hotel.
#1189
Ambassador: Emirates Airlines
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 19,801
Thank you. I think I need the eSim vs getting an actual SIM card. I did ask my friend who lives in the UAE if he has any recommendations. I am just trying to avoid the Verizon traveling plan (at $10 per day; that will add up for a 10 day trip). I should have done the eSim thing when I went to France last summer. I thought I could get away with using wi-fi in the hotel and different public places. I still needed my phone to do the tap for the Paris metro. All told, I racked up an extra $50 in roaming charges for the limited time (about 6 days) I wasn't strictly on wi-fi.
#1191




Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SJC
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I saw a post on a Facebook travel group that Turkey has blocked some eSIM providers Those affected are:
- Airalo
- Alosim
- BNESIM
- Holafly
- Instabridge
- Mobimatter
- Nomad
- Saily
#1192




Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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From what I read, people will still be able to buy eSIMs from the above providers but must activate them before arriving. Furthermore, it seems like Turkey is restricting access to the websites and apps of these providers. I just checked Airalo and Saily, and both are still selling Turkish eSIMs.
I can only presume the goal here is less tourist related and more to stop Turkish citizens/residents using these services within Turkey (and thus avoiding regulations around phone registration), but given it's Tukey, who knows...
#1193



Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,698
https://cellulardata.ubigi.com/rates...c-currency=USD
Says 3UK only
There are other providers that have multi network support, but would have a little more latency (exit in Poland or Belgium, believe Ubigi exits in UK or Belgium, and local UK network providers exit in UK but would only have one network). UK network coverage is quite spotty at times even in central london, having more network coverage is good
#1194



Join Date: Jul 2021
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Ubigi lists their network (but don't know whether it can be out of date or not)
https://cellulardata.ubigi.com/rates...c-currency=USD
Says 3UK only
There are other providers that have multi network support, but would have a little more latency (exit in Poland or Belgium, believe Ubigi exits in UK or Belgium, and local UK network providers exit in UK but would only have one network). UK network coverage is quite spotty at times even in central london, having more network coverage is good
https://cellulardata.ubigi.com/rates...c-currency=USD
Says 3UK only
There are other providers that have multi network support, but would have a little more latency (exit in Poland or Belgium, believe Ubigi exits in UK or Belgium, and local UK network providers exit in UK but would only have one network). UK network coverage is quite spotty at times even in central london, having more network coverage is good
Sadly I'm visiting London, and the 3 network there is more than a little oversubscribed, so I guess I'm due for a visit to the actual store for a physical sim.
Cheers~
#1195


Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: MEX
Posts: 1,152
I just updated my iPhone to the iOS 26 public beta and was pleasantly surprised to see that you can now leave iMessage active on a switched-off SIM.
You still can't get calls or SMS, obviously, but now you can use that travel eSIM without having to choose between potentially getting roaming charges (plus more battery drain) or turning your home SIM off and getting kicked out of iMessage.
A really nice improvement for all of us Americans who have friends and family with iPhones that refuse to use messaging apps like the rest of the world.
My carrier doesn't support RCS on iPhones, so I don't know whether you can also keep RCS on a switched-off SIM.
Edit: You can still only have two numbers attached to each phone at a time--eg if you have SIMs A and B active, when you switch off B it'll let you keep the number in iMessage but if you switch on C and turn on iMessage it'll kick B out. Unlikely to be an issue for the usual use case of switching off your home SIM while traveling, but if you're juggling SIMs on a trip be sure to check in settings.
You still can't get calls or SMS, obviously, but now you can use that travel eSIM without having to choose between potentially getting roaming charges (plus more battery drain) or turning your home SIM off and getting kicked out of iMessage.
A really nice improvement for all of us Americans who have friends and family with iPhones that refuse to use messaging apps like the rest of the world.
My carrier doesn't support RCS on iPhones, so I don't know whether you can also keep RCS on a switched-off SIM.
Edit: You can still only have two numbers attached to each phone at a time--eg if you have SIMs A and B active, when you switch off B it'll let you keep the number in iMessage but if you switch on C and turn on iMessage it'll kick B out. Unlikely to be an issue for the usual use case of switching off your home SIM while traveling, but if you're juggling SIMs on a trip be sure to check in settings.
Last edited by der_saeufer; Aug 2, 2025 at 7:26 pm
#1196


Join Date: Jul 2014
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Also, I believe I can pop the main SIM back in every 20-ish days or so to keep the number live with iMessage (provided I have cellular / SMS service on that SIM wherever you are roaming to, as a (roaming) SMS needs to be sent, I believe).
I would have thought it would it work similarly for eSIM-only iPhones?
Last edited by crackjack; Jul 25, 2025 at 11:52 pm
#1197

Join Date: Apr 2022
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Hopefully this would be helpful for dual eSim iPhone users.... here's a little shortcut to change/toggle networks.
I have mine in control center for quick access
https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/800...c527afb534e8ec
I have mine in control center for quick access
https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/800...c527afb534e8ec
#1198


Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: MEX
Posts: 1,152
Doesnt Apple give it 30 days after switching SIMs before deactivating the original phone number? At least thats how it works for my physical SIM + eSIM iphone it warns me that I will lose access to that number with iMessage (though iMessage is still tied to my email address).
Also, I believe I can pop the main SIM back in every 20-ish days or so to keep the number live with iMessage (provided I have cellular / SMS service on that SIM wherever you are roaming to, as a (roaming) SMS needs to be sent, I believe).
I would have thought it would it work similarly for eSIM-only iPhones?
Also, I believe I can pop the main SIM back in every 20-ish days or so to keep the number live with iMessage (provided I have cellular / SMS service on that SIM wherever you are roaming to, as a (roaming) SMS needs to be sent, I believe).
I would have thought it would it work similarly for eSIM-only iPhones?
#1199


Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,599
Seems a bit silly that Apple manages it in this way, when they clearly know people swap SIMs and catered for iMessage to have a grace period for physical SIM swaps, but not for what are essentially digital SIM swaps well, guess theyre addressing it with the new iOS.
#1200



Join Date: Jul 2021
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There has been a lot of problems with numbers enabled for iMessage staying long after the users moved away from Apple devices. In those cases, people still using Apple devices can't send messages to them, because for whatever reason Apple doesn't allow you to choose whether to send a message as an iMessage or a normal SMS.
I actually used to jailbreak my iPhone just to have this feature, but that ship has unfortunately sailed about 2 years ago. Good memories.
I actually used to jailbreak my iPhone just to have this feature, but that ship has unfortunately sailed about 2 years ago. Good memories.

