eSIM thread
#31




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I do not think this works. I am a T-Mo customer and am trying to find a way to use my T-Mo phone plus another SIM. It turns out that to get a T-Mo eSIM you have to have a T-Mo prepaid account which does not have roaming. This sucks for me as I was hoping to move a foreign SIM (from a country with no eSIM offers yet) to combine two phones in one and still have T-Mo roaming and other benefits of their postpaid accounts.
I have the Global Plus 15GB add-on which gives me the awesome global roaming, and now I'm adding RedPockets Verizon plan for coverage in the USA where T-Mobile isn't there. It's going to be the best of both worlds!
#32


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They officially don't support eSIM on postpaid, but you can "convince" them to let you try. Don't mention eSIM, I gave my EID and then the person pushed back saying it wasn't 19 digits and was I trying to do eSIM? I then complained that I really needed this to put by business sim on my phone as well, and just to try it please! The person did it and everything worked. Took about 3 tries through iMessage and Twitter DMs before one did it though. There is a guide out there on how to set it up.
I have the Global Plus 15GB add-on which gives me the awesome global roaming, and now I'm adding RedPockets Verizon plan for coverage in the USA where T-Mobile isn't there. It's going to be the best of both worlds!
I have the Global Plus 15GB add-on which gives me the awesome global roaming, and now I'm adding RedPockets Verizon plan for coverage in the USA where T-Mobile isn't there. It's going to be the best of both worlds!
Sorry to be a bit dense here, but could you take me step by step through what you asked for? Many thanks
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This reminded me to read that thread again. If you sort comments by "NEW", you'll get the most recent (and thus more accurate) results.
So, I tried it. Took 10 minutes, most of which was waiting for back and forth responses (reps are handling multiple chats at a time).
This is how it went:
Did it yesterday via the in-app chat, went like this: 10 minutes, no arguing needed.
Me: Hello, I would like to do a SIM swap on my xxx-yyy-zzzz line.
EID is 890400000999988887777666655554444.
TMO rep: Sure, I can definitely help you out to activate your eSIM. just a heads, T-Mobile postpaid does not support the eSIM. Would you still like to proceed?
Me: As in, does not support, but can be done, and I accept the responsibility and know there may be issues?
Her: Thank you so much for your understanding, /me. There might be glitches, but no worries, I can activate it for you,
Her: (Warning about contacts stored on SIM / downloaded visual voicemail deleted / Should take minutes, but may take up to two hours)
Me: Yes, I would like to proceed.
Her: Got it! Doing it now! (sends PIN)
Me: (Sends PIN back)
Her: Thanks! Almost done! 2 minutes please.
Her (two minute later): Done with the process!
Instead of steps 5-7 from the reddit post, I Scanned the QR linked in multiple comments in the reddit post ( https://imgur.com/a/3G0fMZc ). Done.
I used the mobile App chat, with my physical SIM in an old iPhone SE, on WiFi, so I was able to continue through the whole process, and go on to troubleshoot a related issue with the same rep in the same chat.
I did the EID via copy/paste to avoid any typos. iCloud cross-device clipboard came in handy here.
Despite having no physical SIM in the iPhone XS during this process, the eSIM line shows as secondary.
Heads up for anyone with an Apple Watch on cellular: Watch lost connection as soon as it went through. I had to unpair and repair it. TMO rep was kind enough to check on her end, and stayed on chat to make sure things worked.
So, I tried it. Took 10 minutes, most of which was waiting for back and forth responses (reps are handling multiple chats at a time).
This is how it went:
Did it yesterday via the in-app chat, went like this: 10 minutes, no arguing needed.
Me: Hello, I would like to do a SIM swap on my xxx-yyy-zzzz line.
EID is 890400000999988887777666655554444.
TMO rep: Sure, I can definitely help you out to activate your eSIM. just a heads, T-Mobile postpaid does not support the eSIM. Would you still like to proceed?
Me: As in, does not support, but can be done, and I accept the responsibility and know there may be issues?
Her: Thank you so much for your understanding, /me. There might be glitches, but no worries, I can activate it for you,
Her: (Warning about contacts stored on SIM / downloaded visual voicemail deleted / Should take minutes, but may take up to two hours)
Me: Yes, I would like to proceed.
Her: Got it! Doing it now! (sends PIN)
Me: (Sends PIN back)
Her: Thanks! Almost done! 2 minutes please.
Her (two minute later): Done with the process!
Instead of steps 5-7 from the reddit post, I Scanned the QR linked in multiple comments in the reddit post ( https://imgur.com/a/3G0fMZc ). Done.
I used the mobile App chat, with my physical SIM in an old iPhone SE, on WiFi, so I was able to continue through the whole process, and go on to troubleshoot a related issue with the same rep in the same chat.
I did the EID via copy/paste to avoid any typos. iCloud cross-device clipboard came in handy here.
Despite having no physical SIM in the iPhone XS during this process, the eSIM line shows as secondary.
Heads up for anyone with an Apple Watch on cellular: Watch lost connection as soon as it went through. I had to unpair and repair it. TMO rep was kind enough to check on her end, and stayed on chat to make sure things worked.
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#39
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I am coming up on my next trip (Germany, Czechia) and am looking to try one of the international eSim providers but there really is very little objective discussion of GigSky, Ubigi, Truphone, eSIM2Fly, SomethingElse? out there on the web. The price differences aren't really the issue for me, the reliability and usability are the key. A few in this thread have reported good results but I was wondering if anybody had any more recent experiences, good or bad? TIA
#40




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Just back from 4 days in Barcelona. Tried Ubigi for this trip. Normally I'd bring a MiFi device and just buy a local data sim. I have a iPhone Xs max on Verizon.
I was on a trans Atlantic cruise and made the mistake of trying to set up the Ubigi profile while at sea. That really didn't work well as it needed a good data connection to validate, not just a wifi connection. Once I was finally able to set up the esim profile I didn't have any issues. I selected the 10gb plan for 30 days at $19 paid through PayPal. Apple pay would have been a nice option.
While in Barcelona the connection was almost always on Orange LTE with some time at 3G. On LTE I SpeedTested at between 15 and 20 mbps down and 10 up.
I was able to use my phone as a hotspot. Note that you have to go in and manually add the APN's for this to work. Which is outlined on their FAQ's
The one issue I had, and it just might be the way I was using the device, is that I couldn't receive SMS without activating my Verizon plan and then incurring a $10 daily international fee. iMessage and WhatsApp worked just fine. I did have WiFi calling turned on as well. I received a notification from Verizon, I'm assuming, that a SMS text was waiting form me if I activated the roaming, which I thought was a sneaky way to get me to use the international day pass.
Overall I was happy with the service. Had I just used the Verizon daily pass I would have blown through the minuscule daily LTE allotment they give you.
I'm thinking one solution for the SMS issue is to have people use email or WhatsApp to get a hold of me.
I was on a trans Atlantic cruise and made the mistake of trying to set up the Ubigi profile while at sea. That really didn't work well as it needed a good data connection to validate, not just a wifi connection. Once I was finally able to set up the esim profile I didn't have any issues. I selected the 10gb plan for 30 days at $19 paid through PayPal. Apple pay would have been a nice option.
While in Barcelona the connection was almost always on Orange LTE with some time at 3G. On LTE I SpeedTested at between 15 and 20 mbps down and 10 up.
I was able to use my phone as a hotspot. Note that you have to go in and manually add the APN's for this to work. Which is outlined on their FAQ's
The one issue I had, and it just might be the way I was using the device, is that I couldn't receive SMS without activating my Verizon plan and then incurring a $10 daily international fee. iMessage and WhatsApp worked just fine. I did have WiFi calling turned on as well. I received a notification from Verizon, I'm assuming, that a SMS text was waiting form me if I activated the roaming, which I thought was a sneaky way to get me to use the international day pass.
Overall I was happy with the service. Had I just used the Verizon daily pass I would have blown through the minuscule daily LTE allotment they give you.
I'm thinking one solution for the SMS issue is to have people use email or WhatsApp to get a hold of me.
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SMS is tied to your SIM card and phone number. You can only use it if you're using your normal account. Some carriers might offer SMS forwarding, but I don't think I've ever seen it.
WhatsApp/email/Viber/Facebook Messenger/Instagram/Snapchat etc are all other options.
WhatsApp/email/Viber/Facebook Messenger/Instagram/Snapchat etc are all other options.
#42
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Verizon's Messages+ makes your Verizon account's SMS available from a Windows or iOS device. I haven't used an iOS version, but I don't imagine it will work from an iPhone that doesn't have a Verizon SIM card in it.
#43

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Jose CA
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- “Victim of its success, we cannot provide new eSIM profiles during a few days”
- My iPhone X doesn't support eSIM, I'd need an XS or XR. But given how much I travel, I'd probably save money by upgrading.
#44
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The Verizon Messages+ app does work with a different SIM. I assume you just need to activate the app with a Verizon SIM. After that it uses data.
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