Why is the issue with electronic devices being on?
#2
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,877
from another thread..
Use of Portable Electronic Devices Aboard Aircraft - FAA AC 91.21-1
6. RECOMMENDED PROCEDURES FOR THE OPERATION OF PORTABLE ELECTRONIC DEVICES ABOARD AIRCRAFT.
(6) Prohibiting the operation of any portable electronic devices during the takeoff and landing phases of flight. It must be recognized that the potential for personal injury to passengers is a paramount consideration as well as the possibility of missing important safety announcements during these important phases of flight. This is in addition to lessening the possible interference that may arise during sterile cockpit operations (below 10,000 feet).
6. RECOMMENDED PROCEDURES FOR THE OPERATION OF PORTABLE ELECTRONIC DEVICES ABOARD AIRCRAFT.
(6) Prohibiting the operation of any portable electronic devices during the takeoff and landing phases of flight. It must be recognized that the potential for personal injury to passengers is a paramount consideration as well as the possibility of missing important safety announcements during these important phases of flight. This is in addition to lessening the possible interference that may arise during sterile cockpit operations (below 10,000 feet).
#3
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: LAX/BOS/HKG/AMS/SFO...hmm, I need a life.
Programs: United1K, AA ExPlAAt, DL MM/Gold, Hilton Diamond, Avis First
Posts: 13,316
#4
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CT
Programs: DL DM 2MM, MR LTT, Hilton D, Hertz PC. National Emerald Exec, UA Silver(thanks to Marriott)
Posts: 2,026
There are some who without basis think it is just a rule for the sake of being able to tell you what to do.
There is some evidence that it is possible that cell phones can interfere with the navigational equipment of the aircraft. It is better to side on caution. I would rather get home safely than let some moron text while we are taking off because they think the rules don't apply to them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_on_aircraft
There is some evidence that it is possible that cell phones can interfere with the navigational equipment of the aircraft. It is better to side on caution. I would rather get home safely than let some moron text while we are taking off because they think the rules don't apply to them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_on_aircraft
#5
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: LAX/BOS/HKG/AMS/SFO...hmm, I need a life.
Programs: United1K, AA ExPlAAt, DL MM/Gold, Hilton Diamond, Avis First
Posts: 13,316
There are some who without basis think it is just a rule for the sake of being able to tell you what to do.
There is some evidence that it is possible that cell phones can interfere with the navigational equipment of the aircraft. It is better to side on caution. I would rather get home safely than let some moron text while we are taking off because they think the rules don't apply to them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_on_aircraft
There is some evidence that it is possible that cell phones can interfere with the navigational equipment of the aircraft. It is better to side on caution. I would rather get home safely than let some moron text while we are taking off because they think the rules don't apply to them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_on_aircraft
#6
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: MCO
Programs: DL-DM/1MM, HILTON-DIA, .HYATT-DIA/GLOB , IHG-PLT,HERTZ 5*, NATIONAL ES
Posts: 8,691
There are some who without basis think it is just a rule for the sake of being able to tell you what to do.
There is some evidence that it is possible that cell phones can interfere with the navigational equipment of the aircraft. It is better to side on caution. I would rather get home safely than let some moron text while we are taking off because they think the rules don't apply to them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_on_aircraft
There is some evidence that it is possible that cell phones can interfere with the navigational equipment of the aircraft. It is better to side on caution. I would rather get home safely than let some moron text while we are taking off because they think the rules don't apply to them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_on_aircraft
#8
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: MN
Programs: Lots of programs, dirt on all of them!
Posts: 11,938
I find the issue is more safety - not hearing the announcements, having earphone cords being an interference in case of an emergency, etc.
#9
Moderator: Hilton Honors forums
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Marietta, Georgia, United States
Posts: 24,997
Thread Alert
The new home for this thread is now the Travel Technology forum, as this topic has nothing to do with Delta Air Lines or the SkyMiles frequent flier loyalty program.
Regards,
Canarsie
Co-Moderator, Delta SkyMiles forum
Regards,
Canarsie
Co-Moderator, Delta SkyMiles forum
#10
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Mileage Plus, Skymiles, EleVAte founding member, SPG
Posts: 1,910
The airline could fine people who are walking around when the seatbelt sign is on too. Or getting up too soon to get something out of the overhead bin. Or not putting the seat in the upright position. They're all for your safety. Do you really want fines for everything?
#12
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Daytona Beach, Florida, USA
Programs: Delta DM; Hilton Diamond; SPG Platinum
Posts: 135
Non-Compatability
There are some very strict rules and a lot of testing before a component or sub-system can be added to an aircraft avionics package.
The biggest issue is that the use of consumer electronic devices has not been tested to ensure non-interferance with the aircraft installed avionics systems. These systems very with each aircraft and have to be confirmed even within each operator.
Guess we should blame Blackberry (Insert appropiate vendor here) for not paying for the appropiate testing that their devices do not interfere with a specific carrier / aircraft model avionics configuration.
Flight Mechanic
The biggest issue is that the use of consumer electronic devices has not been tested to ensure non-interferance with the aircraft installed avionics systems. These systems very with each aircraft and have to be confirmed even within each operator.
Guess we should blame Blackberry (Insert appropiate vendor here) for not paying for the appropiate testing that their devices do not interfere with a specific carrier / aircraft model avionics configuration.
Flight Mechanic
#13
Join Date: Mar 2009
Programs: DL D & MM, Marriott P, Hilton S, UA, US, AA
Posts: 154
Another reason
#14
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: PHX
Posts: 3,796
However, they can report you to law enforcement for "failure to follow flight crew instructions". And yes, stubborn cell phone users have been taken off flights.
The risk is very slight, but the remediation (keeping your toys stowed for a few minutes) is also very minimal. There are items that would probably not be an issue, but the flight attendants don't want to have to consult a big allowed/not allowed list. It's simple enough to just not allow anything for the short time the flight is under 10,000 feet.
Not being able to use your cell phone is probably more of an inconvenience, but there's reason to believe that phones in flight will interfere with the operation of the ground network because they can "see" more cells than the system was designed for. Flights that allow cell phones have their own cell site, so the phone isn't trying to connect to the ground stations.
The risk is very slight, but the remediation (keeping your toys stowed for a few minutes) is also very minimal. There are items that would probably not be an issue, but the flight attendants don't want to have to consult a big allowed/not allowed list. It's simple enough to just not allow anything for the short time the flight is under 10,000 feet.
Not being able to use your cell phone is probably more of an inconvenience, but there's reason to believe that phones in flight will interfere with the operation of the ground network because they can "see" more cells than the system was designed for. Flights that allow cell phones have their own cell site, so the phone isn't trying to connect to the ground stations.
#15
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Department of Homeland Sincerity
Programs: WN Platinum
Posts: 12,085
The other issue people are missing is this: during take-off and landing people need to be more attentive in case emergencies happen. If the plane blows a tire or aborts take off or landing people need to be able to brace themselves for any emergency maneuvers.
I've been on flights with aborted landings and let me tell you I'm glad I was paying attention as the plane jerked rather hard.
I've been on flights with aborted landings and let me tell you I'm glad I was paying attention as the plane jerked rather hard.