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Originally Posted by behuman
(Post 34082261)
Well dear BinSabai, one must bee a fool to leave without predeparture PCR test and then risk to test positive on arrival going to hospitel jail or whatever.
Thai nationals already now can enter without predeparture test. |
Just my personal opinion but dropping the pre-departure doesn't make sense. I will not travel to Thailand until that awful Thai Pass website (with glaring security and data privacy issues) bites the dust.
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Originally Posted by thbe
(Post 34082857)
The positive rate on arrival of travelers from some origins were very high (up to 17%) a few weeks ago. Since then the pre-departure test is seen as not reliable by some Thai authorities. They don‘t care, that people from most of the countries (i.e. Russia) with that high numbers don‘t travel anymore. They also prefer to have the testing business in Thailand to having it in the countries of origin.
On the other hand without the need of a pre-departure test the positive rate on arrival will go up as the number in many Western countries are high and there will always be a lot of people who are inexperienced enough to travel to Thailand without getting tested before departure. And Thailand hasn‘t enough resources for PCR testing many more travelers. I‘m quite sure, that they will change the test on arrival to an ATK test or that they will scrap it in the next months. And everyone who travels to Thailand should have an ATK test before departure as long as there are tests after arrival. Another potential issue upcoming....with more and more locations getting rid of test requirements, the ability to easily get PCR tests, especially with tight / quick turnaround times, will get more difficult....or much more expensive. Or likely, both. |
Pre-departure PCR tests are gone as of 1 April. PCR testing upon arrival and ATK testing on day 5 will apparently continue, as will the $20K insurance requirement, as will Thailand Pass/Test&Go.
Good luck with that, Thailand. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...d-from-april-1 |
Originally Posted by Diplomatico
(Post 34085895)
Pre-departure PCR tests are gone as of 1 April. PCR testing upon arrival and ATK testing on day 5 will apparently continue, as will the $20K insurance requirement, as will Thailand Pass/Test&Go.
Good luck with that, Thailand. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...d-from-april-1 |
At the same meeting they‘ve said, that they will decide in April if they will change the PCR test on arrival to an ATK test. The odds are very high, that this will happen.
It‘s very likely that the Thai Pass will be scraped starting on July 1. And between July 1 and now, they will go on easing the measures. That is as much as they can do. And yes, if anyone thinks, that it‘s not acceptable, he should avoid traveling to Thailand. |
[QUOTE=thbe;34086064
That is as much as they can do. And yes, if anyone thinks, that it‘s not acceptable, he should avoid traveling to Thailand.[/QUOTE] Correct. Definitely Thailand is not yet ready to receive "normal" tourists. There is an obsession for wearing masks absolutely everywhere at least in Bangkok, not only in closed places, mass transit or crowded markets (where it is appropriate), but even at 6 AM in a park. Doesn't make for a relaxing holiday. People are absolulety scared, except when they are eating their sweets with friends from the same plate ;) or eating their sticky rice from the same basket. |
Originally Posted by thbe
(Post 34086064)
At the same meeting they‘ve said, that they will decide in April if they will change the PCR test on arrival to an ATK test. The odds are very high, that this will happen.
It‘s very likely that the Thai Pass will be scraped starting on July 1. And between July 1 and now, they will go on easing the measures. That is as much as they can do. And yes, if anyone thinks, that it‘s not acceptable, he should avoid traveling to Thailand. The cost of a limo from AOT was about 850 BHT to downtown. A PCR test is about 1500 to 2000. Then add a hotel room at a 4 star which is about 2500 to 3000 at max. I normally pay around 1700 to 2200 depending on the season. But now most of the hotels charge you around 5900 to 6200 BHT just for that one night. |
Originally Posted by thbe
(Post 34086064)
At the same meeting they‘ve said, that they will decide in April if they will change the PCR test on arrival to an ATK test. The odds are very high, that this will happen.
It‘s very likely that the Thai Pass will be scraped starting on July 1. And between July 1 and now, they will go on easing the measures. That is as much as they can do. And yes, if anyone thinks, that it‘s not acceptable, he should avoid traveling to Thailand.
Originally Posted by Davvidd
(Post 34086287)
If Thailand makes it easier for people to quarantine and also not get scammed in the process then obviously more people would go and the tourism would be a lot better.
The cost of a limo from AOT was about 850 BHT to downtown. A PCR test is about 1500 to 2000. Then add a hotel room at a 4 star which is about 2500 to 3000 at max. I normally pay around 1700 to 2200 depending on the season. But now most of the hotels charge you around 5900 to 6200 BHT just for that one night. The one night charge comparison is unreasonable too - that contains sealed transport from airport to hotel, includes testing. So by all means, stay away - I don’t see people complaining like crazy about Singapore, Hong Kong etc which are by far more crazy.. |
Originally Posted by Davvidd
(Post 34086287)
If Thailand makes it easier for people to quarantine and also not get scammed in the process then obviously more people would go and the tourism would be a lot better.
Originally Posted by Davvidd
(Post 34086287)
The cost of a limo from AOT was about 850 BHT to downtown. A PCR test is about 1500 to 2000. Then add a hotel room at a 4 star which is about 2500 to 3000 at max. I normally pay around 1700 to 2200 depending on the season. But now most of the hotels charge you around 5900 to 6200 BHT just for that one night.
I‘ve been to Phuket in September last year and six times to Bangkok since November 1. And I‘ve saved more money on flights and hotels than I‘ve spent on PCR tests and transportation. Also I‘ve had special experiences. I.e. being the only person at Patong beach within 200 yards or more on a Saturday afternoon. That won‘t happen again. We all want our old life back. And I‘m happy that the Thai government now follows the plan to scrap all rules until July 1. |
Originally Posted by thbe
(Post 34086064)
At the same meeting they‘ve said, that they will decide in April if they will change the PCR test on arrival to an ATK test. The odds are very high, that this will happen.
It‘s very likely that the Thai Pass will be scraped starting on July 1. And between July 1 and now, they will go on easing the measures. That is as much as they can do. And yes, if anyone thinks, that it‘s not acceptable, he should avoid traveling to Thailand. I do think it's unacceptable and I will avoid traveling to Thailand. Given the bumbling dictatorship's recent track record on "opening up for tourists", I suspect millions of other prospective tourists will join me in that decision. |
Originally Posted by Diplomatico
(Post 34086875)
No reason to be passive-aggressive (like the rest of your cheerleader mates here) when responding.....just say "if YOU think it's not acceptable, then YOU should avoid traveling to Thailand."
I do think it's unacceptable and I will avoid traveling to Thailand. Given the bumbling dictatorship's recent track record on "opening up for tourists", I suspect millions of other prospective tourists will join me in that decision. |
Originally Posted by Diplomatico
(Post 34086875)
I do think it's unacceptable and I will avoid traveling to Thailand. Given the bumbling dictatorship's recent track record on "opening up for tourists", I suspect millions of other prospective tourists will join me in that decision.
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Originally Posted by thbe
(Post 34087062)
With or without the restrictions there aren‘t additional millions of tourists who would go to Thailand until end of June.
Mexico - another tourism dependent country but one which has no entry restrictions - had 1.65 million tourists in January 2022. Thailand had 133,000 "visitor arrivals" in the same month. https://tradingeconomics.com/mexico/tourist-arrivals In 2021, Mexico had 31 million tourists that brought in $18.5 billion dollars in tourism revenue. In the first ten months of 2021, Thailand had 106,000 tourists. https://mexicobusiness.news/aerospac...-tourists-2021 https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/20...ors%20a%20year. People are traveling - and want to travel. They just don't want illogical, inane, and expensive barriers to entry (e.g., Thailand Pass, Test & Go, insurance and quarantine scams) foisted upon them when they do. |
Originally Posted by SKT-DK
(Post 34086313)
So by all means, stay away - I don’t see people complaining like crazy about Singapore, Hong Kong etc which are by far more crazy..
Whilst on the subject of crazy this article did make me laugh though. |
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