Bangkok Airport Rail Link (ARL): Updates, Advice, Discussion
#346
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A few updates on the ARL.
I asked someone at the SRT to check on the status on the refurbishment of the rolling stock - specifically the conversion of the 4 Express baggage cars for pax. There has also been some recent updates from the SRTET CEO in the Thai press.
1) New rolling stock
Although funds were approved 4 years ago to purchase 7 new 5 car sets of rolling stock (see my previous posts) a combination of internal delays and subsequent corruption allegations related to an intended purchase of Chinese rolling stock, meant that the process was suspended in late 2015.
For what it is worth, the SRTET CEO is stating that the order will be placed by the end of 2017. Given the normal 2 year delivery period we won't be seeing any new trains before early 2020!
2) PSDs:
The installation of Platfrom Screen Doors has become a priority after the death of a pregnant woman who fainted and fell onto the track 2 months ago.
The contractor will be selected next week with installation to commence ASAP. Expectation is all 7 stations will be completed by early next year.
3) Current 9 rolling stock refurbishment
The SRTET is refurbishing all of its current trains, especially the Express trains and converting seating and the baggage car for pax.
1 set has been completed, 1 is underway and all 9 sets should be done by Feb 2018.
Once done this will allow the frequency to be increased to every 8 mins during peak hours and allow for a capacity of 80k pax per day.
In summary by around March/April next year we should see;
1) PSDs on all station,
2) Refurbished trains - especially Express for greater capacity,
3) Increased frequency,
4) Hopefully, fingers crossed finally an order for new rolling stock.
Of course, by then the dodgy, cheap chinese rail will probably have fallen apart......but that's another issue!
I asked someone at the SRT to check on the status on the refurbishment of the rolling stock - specifically the conversion of the 4 Express baggage cars for pax. There has also been some recent updates from the SRTET CEO in the Thai press.
1) New rolling stock
Although funds were approved 4 years ago to purchase 7 new 5 car sets of rolling stock (see my previous posts) a combination of internal delays and subsequent corruption allegations related to an intended purchase of Chinese rolling stock, meant that the process was suspended in late 2015.
For what it is worth, the SRTET CEO is stating that the order will be placed by the end of 2017. Given the normal 2 year delivery period we won't be seeing any new trains before early 2020!
2) PSDs:
The installation of Platfrom Screen Doors has become a priority after the death of a pregnant woman who fainted and fell onto the track 2 months ago.
The contractor will be selected next week with installation to commence ASAP. Expectation is all 7 stations will be completed by early next year.
3) Current 9 rolling stock refurbishment
The SRTET is refurbishing all of its current trains, especially the Express trains and converting seating and the baggage car for pax.
1 set has been completed, 1 is underway and all 9 sets should be done by Feb 2018.
Once done this will allow the frequency to be increased to every 8 mins during peak hours and allow for a capacity of 80k pax per day.
In summary by around March/April next year we should see;
1) PSDs on all station,
2) Refurbished trains - especially Express for greater capacity,
3) Increased frequency,
4) Hopefully, fingers crossed finally an order for new rolling stock.
Of course, by then the dodgy, cheap chinese rail will probably have fallen apart......but that's another issue!
#347
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Bangkok
Posts: 284
A few updates on the ARL.
2) PSDs:
The installation of Platfrom Screen Doors has become a priority after the death of a pregnant woman who fainted and fell onto the track 2 months ago.
The contractor will be selected next week with installation to commence ASAP. Expectation is all 7 stations will be completed by early next year.
2) PSDs:
The installation of Platfrom Screen Doors has become a priority after the death of a pregnant woman who fainted and fell onto the track 2 months ago.
The contractor will be selected next week with installation to commence ASAP. Expectation is all 7 stations will be completed by early next year.
Reportedly, they will start with both Phaya Thai and Lat Krabang (both are very crowded at their respective peaks), then proceed to the other stations.
#348
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Bangkok
Posts: 284
A few updates on the ARL.
1) New rolling stock
Although funds were approved 4 years ago to purchase 7 new 5 car sets of rolling stock (see my previous posts) a combination of internal delays and subsequent corruption allegations related to an intended purchase of Chinese rolling stock, meant that the process was suspended in late 2015.
For what it is worth, the SRTET CEO is stating that the order will be placed by the end of 2017. Given the normal 2 year delivery period we won't be seeing any new trains before early 2020!
1) New rolling stock
Although funds were approved 4 years ago to purchase 7 new 5 car sets of rolling stock (see my previous posts) a combination of internal delays and subsequent corruption allegations related to an intended purchase of Chinese rolling stock, meant that the process was suspended in late 2015.
For what it is worth, the SRTET CEO is stating that the order will be placed by the end of 2017. Given the normal 2 year delivery period we won't be seeing any new trains before early 2020!
#349
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Note the new first train time change from 06:00 to 05:30...
No new trains for Airport Rail Link
Deputy Transport Minister Pailin Chuchottaworn has backtracked on a plan to buy seven new Airport Rail Link trains, reasoning the purchase should be delayed until a contract is signed for a mega project...
In the meantime, SRTET has been told to solve the current overcrowding problem by running trains from 5:30am, instead of 6am, and installing additional seats in baggage carriages, he said.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/tra...port-rail-link
No new trains for Airport Rail Link
Deputy Transport Minister Pailin Chuchottaworn has backtracked on a plan to buy seven new Airport Rail Link trains, reasoning the purchase should be delayed until a contract is signed for a mega project...
In the meantime, SRTET has been told to solve the current overcrowding problem by running trains from 5:30am, instead of 6am, and installing additional seats in baggage carriages, he said.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/tra...port-rail-link
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Note the new first train time change from 06:00 to 05:30...
No new trains for Airport Rail Link
Deputy Transport Minister Pailin Chuchottaworn has backtracked on a plan to buy seven new Airport Rail Link trains, reasoning the purchase should be delayed until a contract is signed for a mega project...
In the meantime, SRTET has been told to solve the current overcrowding problem by running trains from 5:30am, instead of 6am, and installing additional seats in baggage carriages, he said.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/tra...port-rail-link
No new trains for Airport Rail Link
Deputy Transport Minister Pailin Chuchottaworn has backtracked on a plan to buy seven new Airport Rail Link trains, reasoning the purchase should be delayed until a contract is signed for a mega project...
In the meantime, SRTET has been told to solve the current overcrowding problem by running trains from 5:30am, instead of 6am, and installing additional seats in baggage carriages, he said.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/tra...port-rail-link
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transpac - Thank you for posting. While it is nice that ARL will start at 5:30 am, the above measures will not solve the overcrowding problem during rush hour, which will only get worse. Basically it seems the ARL has become a commuter service from Lat Krabang to downtown Bangkok.
Carryon only, but still chose the one stop, and a wise choice it was Place to sit, but by Makkasan pretty much standing room ONLY Many if not most "commuters" went all the way to the airport, likely airport employees IMHO. A couple dozen backpackers or so also got off at BKK.
But agree that without extra sets, rushours will be packed until the cows (water buffaloes) come home.
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#353
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transpac - Thank you for posting. While it is nice that ARL will start at 5:30 am, the above measures will not solve the overcrowding problem during rush hour, which will only get worse. Basically, it seems the ARL has become a commuter service from Lat Krabang to downtown Bangkok.
Obviously, the responsible Thai authorities seem to think that these band-aids will help. That probably says more about the Thai authorities, who have been savaged on Thai social media by Thais for such a lame approach.
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HOWEVER, I cannot remember last time I got on the Sukhumvit line when it wasn't so packed that I could not see how you would cram a couple of pieces of luggage on board. IMHO your best bet may be to get off ARL at closest station to your hotel and take a taxi from there - it would be Makkasan station if it's lower Suk, or last ARL station if closer to town center (don't know where your hotel is located).
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HOWEVER, I cannot remember last time I got on the Sukhumvit line when it wasn't so packed that I could not see how you would cram a couple of pieces of luggage on board. IMHO your best bet may be to get off ARL at closest station to your hotel and take a taxi from there - it would be Makkasan station if it's lower Suk, or last ARL station if closer to town center (don't know where your hotel is located).
One thing to keep in mind for anyone planning to use the MRT who'll be near the Asoke station is to get an IC card at a station that's not Asoke -- the lines to get a single ride token are pretty much always bad and often absurd. They've generally not been bad at Petchaburi for topping up when I arrive.
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Question: I will have two IATA-size carry-ons on me (55x40x20 cm each). Is that too much? I read on Wikipedia that it is prohibited to bringe "large belongings" on board..
No.
I see tourists on the subway (MRT) every day with massive pieces of luggage every day. Not sure one could bring a "larger belonging" short of their automobile?
No.
I see tourists on the subway (MRT) every day with massive pieces of luggage every day. Not sure one could bring a "larger belonging" short of their automobile?
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question: I will have two iata-size carry-ons on me (55x40x20 cm each). Is that too much? I read on wikipedia that it is prohibited to bringe "large belongings" on board..
no.
i see tourists on the subway (mrt) every day with massive pieces of luggage every day. Not sure one could bring a "larger belonging" short of their automobile?
no.
i see tourists on the subway (mrt) every day with massive pieces of luggage every day. Not sure one could bring a "larger belonging" short of their automobile?
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I can remember, it was yesterday; several times. And the day before. And the day before. This notion that BTS/MRT is constantly packed, even outside of peak times, is ludicrous and people should really disavow this idea.
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I did not venture on subway, but on Skytrain, it was packed even in middle of the day. Ditto when I was going to the ARL, but you would expect that in the morning, though it was AFTER rush hour.