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This thread is for posting questions and specific news/updates of direct relevance to those traveling in or to the area.
Discussion of underlying and peripheral issues, comparisons to similar past events, and speculation about future conditions
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Update
13 June 2014:
Curfew has been lifted nationwide.
Travel advisories issued by a number of foreign governments remain in place. Check your country's embassy or consular website for travel advice and updates.
Courts martial have been established for violators of criminal code sections dealing with lèse-majesté, and those covering the broad subject of "national security" (including civilian violators). The NCPO has warned that it will crackdown on anti-coup protests if they do not cease. Visitors are strongly advised to stay away from all political gatherings.
Media gag has been eased, but strict censorship orders are in place, with local press and broadcast outlets reporting only approved content. ISPs have been ordered to monitor social media, and to block disruptive or "negative" content. Accurate and comprehensive information remains difficult to obtain, both in and out of the country. Censorship violations are among those subject to courts martial.
Hotlines for Tourists in Thailand
- TAT Call Centre 1672
- Tourist Police Call Centre 1155
- Traffic Police Call Centre 1197
- BMTA (city bus and van service) Call Centre 1348
- BTS Hotline +66 (0) 2617 6000
- MRT Customer Relations Center +66 (0) 2624 5200
- SRT (train service) Call Centre 1690
- Transport Co., Ltd., (inter-provincial bus service) Call Centre 1490
- AOT (Suvarnabhumi Airport) Call Centre 1722
- Thai Airways International Call Centre +66 (0) 2356 1111
- Bangkok Airways Call Centre 1771
- Nok Air Call Centre 1318
- Thai AirAsia Call Centre +66 (0) 2515 9999
Links to External Information Sources
- Rolling breaking news updates: Bangkok Post Lite Version (might load better than the full site for some users)
- Updates from TAT News: Tourism Authority of Thailand
- Breaking News: Thai PBS
- Latest News from NNT: National News Bureau of Thailand (government public relations)
- Travel blogger Richard Barrow: Thai news twitter feed (ongoing updates)
- Richard Barrow's map: Protest Sites in Bangkok in May 2014 (updated regularly)
- Independent web-based Thai news publication: Prachatai - Coup 2014 (English)
Special thanks to FTer c_9 for initiating this Wikipost
Safety of Travel in Thailand 2014 — Martial Law, Peaceful Military Coup
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What was that we said about daytime being safe....
https://twitter.com/Arisaralive/stat...835584/photo/1
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I had lunch at Central World today. Took a picture of the protest site. There are around 100 people camped out on Rajdamri. That's a tiny fraction of what it was 2 months ago.
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So after working at office first few days, visited a few of my normal haunts with the Mrs. yesterday (sat). Walked from oriental residence (wireless rd, near us embassy) to chitlom central, lunch at food court (mrs likes one particular stall).
Then bts to mbk. Outside street level is tent camp, kiosks selling t-shirts, other accessories, small groups talking to wandering crowds, quite peaceful....this is around 12 noon. Mbk remains full of shoppers, don't detect less or more shoppers. Food court crowded...
BTS back to Ratchadamri station, walked towards Lumpini park intersection - at one site, they are selling nice t-shirts, designed by a famous thai artist: KAI. Donated B1500 for 5 t- shirts. Then did long stroll back to hotel via Four Seasons, Grand Hyatt and along Ploenchit....the sun was out, it was warm, and ducked back into Central in Chitlom to stock up on some fruits, durian and snacks....before return to cold pool for some laps.
Keep in mind this was during daylight hours....things may heat up at night? But at no time did we feel anything out of norm except for various blockades set up at various intersections or entry areas.
Safe travels to all. We fly out wednesday, wil wander around some more later today....
Then bts to mbk. Outside street level is tent camp, kiosks selling t-shirts, other accessories, small groups talking to wandering crowds, quite peaceful....this is around 12 noon. Mbk remains full of shoppers, don't detect less or more shoppers. Food court crowded...
BTS back to Ratchadamri station, walked towards Lumpini park intersection - at one site, they are selling nice t-shirts, designed by a famous thai artist: KAI. Donated B1500 for 5 t- shirts. Then did long stroll back to hotel via Four Seasons, Grand Hyatt and along Ploenchit....the sun was out, it was warm, and ducked back into Central in Chitlom to stock up on some fruits, durian and snacks....before return to cold pool for some laps.
Keep in mind this was during daylight hours....things may heat up at night? But at no time did we feel anything out of norm except for various blockades set up at various intersections or entry areas.
Safe travels to all. We fly out wednesday, wil wander around some more later today....
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So I asked this question upthread and got one answer and I'm certainly not trying to be annoying by asking again. I ask this from a place of going to a country by myself that I've never been to before and want to make sure I'm not putting myself in potentially dangerous situations. I just want to plan out my actions upon arriving instead of trying to wing it since that's how you get into trouble in these types of situations.
Arriving at night (TG 677 which arrives at 1030pm + immigration, etc.), staying at the SGS, is there a particular mode of transportation (cost is not a major factor) that would be ideal. I know the taxis are cheapest, limousine's likely the most comfortable for a small premium, but it seems from some posts that taking the ARL and then the BTS SkyTrain might be the safest alternative.
Thoughts?
Alternative is trying to find another hotel since I know that SGS may be near a hotspot (per @RichardBarrow's protest map)
Arriving at night (TG 677 which arrives at 1030pm + immigration, etc.), staying at the SGS, is there a particular mode of transportation (cost is not a major factor) that would be ideal. I know the taxis are cheapest, limousine's likely the most comfortable for a small premium, but it seems from some posts that taking the ARL and then the BTS SkyTrain might be the safest alternative.
Thoughts?
Alternative is trying to find another hotel since I know that SGS may be near a hotspot (per @RichardBarrow's protest map)
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What was that we said about daytime being safe....
https://twitter.com/Arisaralive/stat...835584/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Arisaralive/stat...835584/photo/1
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http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/loca...-ratchaprasong
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/poli...-30227578.html
You posted this misleading BS yesterday!
No, it's directed to me.
And I'll say it again. Stay away from the protest sites at night. But during the day they are as safe as walking down the streets in San Francisco during the day.
I think it was you who pointed out that you don't have grenades in SF during the day. True, but 2 things. First, the explosives being used aren't grenades they way we think about them. A grenade tossed into a crowd would *kill* a dozen people, not wound them. They are glorified cherry bombs.
Second, while no grenades in SF there are other sources of violence (guns, knives, etc.) in all big cities. I have seen no reports of a single "civilian" killed or seriously injured. You can't say that about Oakland, for example.
Last weekend my in-laws came down from Isaan. I walked through the area near Pathumwan with my 4 year old niece. I'm not about to expose her to any risk.
And I'll say it again. Stay away from the protest sites at night. But during the day they are as safe as walking down the streets in San Francisco during the day.
I think it was you who pointed out that you don't have grenades in SF during the day. True, but 2 things. First, the explosives being used aren't grenades they way we think about them. A grenade tossed into a crowd would *kill* a dozen people, not wound them. They are glorified cherry bombs.
Second, while no grenades in SF there are other sources of violence (guns, knives, etc.) in all big cities. I have seen no reports of a single "civilian" killed or seriously injured. You can't say that about Oakland, for example.
Last weekend my in-laws came down from Isaan. I walked through the area near Pathumwan with my 4 year old niece. I'm not about to expose her to any risk.
Military grenades are being used and have been for some weeks in many attacks. A policeman nearly lost his leg due to a grenade on Tuesday. A unexploded grenade was thrown at the Civil Court today. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/une...ourt-compound/ Grenades have been tossed around BKK with concerning ease. How can you state BS that real grenades are not being used??
You are posting blatantly false and incorrect info. You have had a number of posts deleted due to political bias which fortunately this thread has been free of. Can you pls refrain from posting here when you keep giving wrong info? It is dangerous and outright immoral to both suggest that no civilians have been killed and to give completely wrong advice to travelers who are not familiar with the situation in BKK. Stop it please!!
Whoever is perpetrating these attacks is killing civilians, ordinary thais, women and children. They are using military grade weapons. This sort of violencent attacks is disgusting and abhorrent. To try to somehow misleading downplay it and falsely characterize it, is very dangerous.
Again for those visting BKK, follow your embassy advice. Stay well away from protest sites especially perimeter areas where the guards are located. If you do have to pass by don't loiter. The last 48 hrs have seen an escalation with significant casualties. That trend may continue this week.
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So I asked this question upthread and got one answer and I'm certainly not trying to be annoying by asking again. I ask this from a place of going to a country by myself that I've never been to before and want to make sure I'm not putting myself in potentially dangerous situations. I just want to plan out my actions upon arriving instead of trying to wing it since that's how you get into trouble in these types of situations.
Arriving at night (TG 677 which arrives at 1030pm + immigration, etc.), staying at the SGS, is there a particular mode of transportation (cost is not a major factor) that would be ideal. I know the taxis are cheapest, limousine's likely the most comfortable for a small premium, but it seems from some posts that taking the ARL and then the BTS SkyTrain might be the safest alternative.
Thoughts?
Alternative is trying to find another hotel since I know that SGS may be near a hotspot (per @RichardBarrow's protest map)
Arriving at night (TG 677 which arrives at 1030pm + immigration, etc.), staying at the SGS, is there a particular mode of transportation (cost is not a major factor) that would be ideal. I know the taxis are cheapest, limousine's likely the most comfortable for a small premium, but it seems from some posts that taking the ARL and then the BTS SkyTrain might be the safest alternative.
Thoughts?
Alternative is trying to find another hotel since I know that SGS may be near a hotspot (per @RichardBarrow's protest map)
You can access and exit the Sheraton using an elevated pedestrian link which links to the BTS station, Terminal 21 shopping center and ultimately the MRT. You can see this clearly in this map,
http://www.bts.co.th/customer/en/ima.../E4_update.gif
(The entrance to the protest area is immediately below the western edge (right side on this map) of the Asoke BTS station, in line with Suk soi 19.
The Sheraton is safe but I would suggest located too close to the protest site. I would suggest to friends not to stay there given the proximity. Again, the issue is not the protesters but the fact that they are being targeted esp the guards around the perimeter of each site. The hotel is a literal stones throw away. Access to the BTS and MRT is great. Taxi access is a bit of a hassle currently given the intersection is blocked so everyone is using soi 19.
Most likely you would stay and nothing untoward would happen. However, with so many good hotels in BKK why endure the hassle and potential anxiety?
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If you're keeping up with the news then you'll know that the Red Shirts are rallying their supporters nationwide. I expect things to heat up. IMO Lumphini is such a bullseye/target. I wouldn't go there day or night at this point because you just don't know. The blast today occurred at the Big C that I go to every week. However, I haven't been there for over a month. I would feel awful if I had told people it's totally safe to go and something like this happened to them.
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If you're keeping up with the news then you'll know that the Red Shirts are rallying their supporters nationwide. I expect things to heat up. IMO Lumphini is such a bullseye/target. I wouldn't go there day or night at this point because you just don't know. The blast today occurred at the Big C that I go to every week. However, I haven't been there for over a month. I would feel awful if I had told people it's totally safe to go and something like this happened to them.
This is about to take a huge turn for the worse.
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Arriving at night (TG 677 which arrives at 1030pm + immigration, etc.), staying at the SGS, is there a particular mode of transportation (cost is not a major factor) that would be ideal. I know the taxis are cheapest, limousine's likely the most comfortable for a small premium, but it seems from some posts that taking the ARL and then the BTS SkyTrain might be the safest alternative.
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SGS is located around 50m west of the west perimeter of the Asoke protest site. In fact a guarded entrance to the site with protester guards (who are constantly subjected to attacks at other sites). That being said, nothing of major note has occurred at the Asoke site that I am aware of but the incidents referred to above suggest an escalation of attacks against inner city sites.
You can access and exit the Sheraton using an elevated pedestrian link which links to the BTS station, Terminal 21 shopping center and ultimately the MRT. You can see this clearly in this map,
http://www.bts.co.th/customer/en/ima.../E4_update.gif
(The entrance to the protest area is immediately below the western edge (right side on this map) of the Asoke BTS station, in line with Suk soi 19.
The Sheraton is safe but I would suggest located too close to the protest site. I would suggest to friends not to stay there given the proximity. Again, the issue is not the protesters but the fact that they are being targeted esp the guards around the perimeter of each site. The hotel is a literal stones throw away. Access to the BTS and MRT is great. Taxi access is a bit of a hassle currently given the intersection is blocked so everyone is using soi 19.
Most likely you would stay and nothing untoward would happen. However, with so many good hotels in BKK why endure the hassle and potential anxiety?
You can access and exit the Sheraton using an elevated pedestrian link which links to the BTS station, Terminal 21 shopping center and ultimately the MRT. You can see this clearly in this map,
http://www.bts.co.th/customer/en/ima.../E4_update.gif
(The entrance to the protest area is immediately below the western edge (right side on this map) of the Asoke BTS station, in line with Suk soi 19.
The Sheraton is safe but I would suggest located too close to the protest site. I would suggest to friends not to stay there given the proximity. Again, the issue is not the protesters but the fact that they are being targeted esp the guards around the perimeter of each site. The hotel is a literal stones throw away. Access to the BTS and MRT is great. Taxi access is a bit of a hassle currently given the intersection is blocked so everyone is using soi 19.
Most likely you would stay and nothing untoward would happen. However, with so many good hotels in BKK why endure the hassle and potential anxiety?
If cost isn't a factor, there's only one answer in my book. Get in touch with the SGS Concierge Desk [email protected] and arrange transportation through them. There will be a gentleman in a dark suit holding an SGS sign just as you exit baggage claim into the general airport area. He will take you to a car (usually a new Mercedes) waiting outside which has cold towels and cold water as well as current newspapers. You will be driven right to the main entrance of the hotel. You will complete the checkin paperwork right in the car during the drive. I've used this service a fair number of times, and it's worth every satang. A few baht more, and they'll meet you at the jetway entrance just as you're getting off the plane.
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