Japan restricts operations of Thai carriers
May 3, 2015, 7:39 am
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It should also be noted that at that time AVCON had already committed to buy the A340-500 by putting down $2.5 million deposit. I doubt that if the aircraft is really in such poor state they would have committed buying it. Or if the deal went through happily, would they still make such allegation?
May 3, 2015, 7:26 pm
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The reason behind Thailand’s air safety problem
In 2013, AvCon Worldwide Limited, based in London in the UK, represented Saudi Arabia's Prince Faisal al-Saud, and went to Thai Airways International (THAI) to buy A340-500s from them. From late March until October 2013, as negotiations were held, over US$1 million was wasted by AvCon for engineers hired by the company, along with other costs such as hotel stays, transportation, meals, and other travel costs. In addition, AvCon paid a deposit of US$2.5 million on a future transaction that never came to fruition.
What happened next became big news in Thailand’s media.
The then acting President of Thai Airways, Sorajak Kasemsuvan, told the media that the THAI Board had rejected AvCon’s offer in August 2013. However, according to AvCon Worldwide Limited’s Managing Director, James Stewart Kim, no Board decision was made on the offer until a couple of months later in October 2013. THAI was losing so much money that this executive did not want to have to write off more funds and create even greater losses in THAI’s books.
http://www.eturbonews.com/58480/reas...safety-problem
In 2013, AvCon Worldwide Limited, based in London in the UK, represented Saudi Arabia's Prince Faisal al-Saud, and went to Thai Airways International (THAI) to buy A340-500s from them. From late March until October 2013, as negotiations were held, over US$1 million was wasted by AvCon for engineers hired by the company, along with other costs such as hotel stays, transportation, meals, and other travel costs. In addition, AvCon paid a deposit of US$2.5 million on a future transaction that never came to fruition.
What happened next became big news in Thailand’s media.
The then acting President of Thai Airways, Sorajak Kasemsuvan, told the media that the THAI Board had rejected AvCon’s offer in August 2013. However, according to AvCon Worldwide Limited’s Managing Director, James Stewart Kim, no Board decision was made on the offer until a couple of months later in October 2013. THAI was losing so much money that this executive did not want to have to write off more funds and create even greater losses in THAI’s books.
http://www.eturbonews.com/58480/reas...safety-problem
May 4, 2015, 12:07 am
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The reason behind Thailand’s air safety problem
In 2013, AvCon Worldwide Limited, based in London in the UK, represented Saudi Arabia's Prince Faisal al-Saud, and went to Thai Airways International (THAI) to buy A340-500s from them. From late March until October 2013, as negotiations were held, over US$1 million was wasted by AvCon for engineers hired by the company, along with other costs such as hotel stays, transportation, meals, and other travel costs. In addition, AvCon paid a deposit of US$2.5 million on a future transaction that never came to fruition.
What happened next became big news in Thailand’s media.
The then acting President of Thai Airways, Sorajak Kasemsuvan, told the media that the THAI Board had rejected AvCon’s offer in August 2013. However, according to AvCon Worldwide Limited’s Managing Director, James Stewart Kim, no Board decision was made on the offer until a couple of months later in October 2013. THAI was losing so much money that this executive did not want to have to write off more funds and create even greater losses in THAI’s books.
http://www.eturbonews.com/58480/reas...safety-problem
In 2013, AvCon Worldwide Limited, based in London in the UK, represented Saudi Arabia's Prince Faisal al-Saud, and went to Thai Airways International (THAI) to buy A340-500s from them. From late March until October 2013, as negotiations were held, over US$1 million was wasted by AvCon for engineers hired by the company, along with other costs such as hotel stays, transportation, meals, and other travel costs. In addition, AvCon paid a deposit of US$2.5 million on a future transaction that never came to fruition.
What happened next became big news in Thailand’s media.
The then acting President of Thai Airways, Sorajak Kasemsuvan, told the media that the THAI Board had rejected AvCon’s offer in August 2013. However, according to AvCon Worldwide Limited’s Managing Director, James Stewart Kim, no Board decision was made on the offer until a couple of months later in October 2013. THAI was losing so much money that this executive did not want to have to write off more funds and create even greater losses in THAI’s books.
http://www.eturbonews.com/58480/reas...safety-problem
I'd rather say TG didn't sell the 345hgw HS-TLD as of "outside" reasons related to non-aviation business. Too many stories here to as well
May 4, 2015, 1:32 am
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I'm not sure whether my poor English or not. But I confused the statements from AvCon. Earlier they said that their engineers were working during A345 was on C4 check but later they said that THAI didn't do the C4 check for A345.
May 4, 2015, 6:47 pm
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Thai airlines, air operators under increased UAE surveillance
Decision taken after recent ICAO study of safety oversight in Thailand
Published Monday, May 04, 2015
This ensures implementation of effective ramp inspections on visiting foreign aircraft.
The General Civil Aviation Authority of UAE has increased its inspection on airplanes and aviation operators from Thailand following the announcement of safety gaps in the Thai civil aviation system.
The International Civil Aviation Organisation, ICAO, recently conducted a safety oversight audit on Thailand resulting in the issuance of a significant safety concern (SSC), indicating that Thailand is not providing sufficient safety oversight to ensure the effective implementation of applicable ICAO standards.
As a result of this concern, the UAE has increased its surveillance on all Thai operators.
http://www.emirates247.com/news/emir...05-04-1.589503
Thailand’s Airline Industry in Peril
Posted On 4 May, 2015
After another year of political problems, a poor economy and a decline in tourist arrivals, Thailand’s aviation sector is facing even more challenges in 2015.
The country’s four largest carriers, Bangkok Airways, Thai Airways, Nok Air and Thai AirAsia, are facing heavy competition from each other, as well as foreign carriers, while the domestic market has become oversaturated.
This has put pressure on profits across the entire industry. Thailand’s airline companies are at a critical point, and must reposition themselves to survive in an increasingly difficult market and compete in the ASEAN Economic Community (AEC).
http://www.investasian.com/2015/05/0...stry-in-peril/
Decision taken after recent ICAO study of safety oversight in Thailand
Published Monday, May 04, 2015
This ensures implementation of effective ramp inspections on visiting foreign aircraft.
The General Civil Aviation Authority of UAE has increased its inspection on airplanes and aviation operators from Thailand following the announcement of safety gaps in the Thai civil aviation system.
The International Civil Aviation Organisation, ICAO, recently conducted a safety oversight audit on Thailand resulting in the issuance of a significant safety concern (SSC), indicating that Thailand is not providing sufficient safety oversight to ensure the effective implementation of applicable ICAO standards.
As a result of this concern, the UAE has increased its surveillance on all Thai operators.
http://www.emirates247.com/news/emir...05-04-1.589503
Thailand’s Airline Industry in Peril
Posted On 4 May, 2015
After another year of political problems, a poor economy and a decline in tourist arrivals, Thailand’s aviation sector is facing even more challenges in 2015.
The country’s four largest carriers, Bangkok Airways, Thai Airways, Nok Air and Thai AirAsia, are facing heavy competition from each other, as well as foreign carriers, while the domestic market has become oversaturated.
This has put pressure on profits across the entire industry. Thailand’s airline companies are at a critical point, and must reposition themselves to survive in an increasingly difficult market and compete in the ASEAN Economic Community (AEC).
http://www.investasian.com/2015/05/0...stry-in-peril/
May 7, 2015, 5:07 pm
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Prajin vows aviation fix-up by Sunday
ICAO due to announce safety findings in June
Transport Minister Prajin Juntong has set Sunday as the deadline for completing the action plan to solve aviation safety concerns. He vowed to finish restructuring the failing Department of Civil Aviation...
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gene...x-up-by-sunday
ICAO due to announce safety findings in June
Transport Minister Prajin Juntong has set Sunday as the deadline for completing the action plan to solve aviation safety concerns. He vowed to finish restructuring the failing Department of Civil Aviation...
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gene...x-up-by-sunday
May 10, 2015, 7:07 pm
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Minister outlines new DCA organisation Civil Aviation
Department shake-up ready by October
11 May 2015
Transport Minister Prajin Juntong strongly believes China will not ban Thai charter flights from flying into the country. Speaking Sunday after a trip to China and talks with administrators of Chongqing...
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gene...a-organisation
Department shake-up ready by October
11 May 2015
Transport Minister Prajin Juntong strongly believes China will not ban Thai charter flights from flying into the country. Speaking Sunday after a trip to China and talks with administrators of Chongqing...
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gene...a-organisation
May 11, 2015, 2:18 am
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Minister outlines new DCA organisation Civil Aviation
Department shake-up ready by October
11 May 2015
Transport Minister Prajin Juntong strongly believes China will not ban Thai charter flights from flying into the country. Speaking Sunday after a trip to China and talks with administrators of Chongqing...
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gene...a-organisation
Department shake-up ready by October
11 May 2015
Transport Minister Prajin Juntong strongly believes China will not ban Thai charter flights from flying into the country. Speaking Sunday after a trip to China and talks with administrators of Chongqing...
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gene...a-organisation
May 11, 2015, 2:43 am
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http://oa.geodiction.com/articles/1243
Thailand’s Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) has come under renewed scrutiny for failing to update foreign authorities about the “significant safety concerns” raised in the International Civil Aviation Organization’s (ICAO’s) last audit in January.
Under a memorandum of understanding signed last month, the DCA agreed to submit regular updates to the Japan Civil Aviation Bureau (JCAB), outlining its progress in rectifying the long list of security breaches raised by the UN aviation watchdog. In return, the JCAB lifted a charter-flight ban on six Thai-registered carriers, including Thai Airways International (THAI), NokScoot, Asian Air, Jet Asia Airways, Asia Atlantic Airlines and Thai AirAsia X. The agreement allows the airlines to operate charter flights to Japan from April 11 to May 31.
Thailand’s Transport Minister, Prajin Juntong, said the Japanese authorities had recently contacted DCA director general, Somchai Phiphuttawat, to complain they had not observed any improvements in coordination with the Thai authorities, nor received sufficient progress reports. In response, Prajin said a committee was being formed to improve communications between the two countries and added that DCA chief Somchai had recently travelled to Germany and South Korea to address the ICAO audit findings. This Week in Asia-Pacific Aviation understands that Somchai was also lobbying the German and Korean authorities against following the JCAB’s lead in imposing bans on Thai carriers.
The Thai DCA has finalized a detailed corrective action plan, which it plans to present to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha on May 10 before forwarding it to ICAO and the JCAB. ICAO said it expected to release the results of its audit of said action plan by June 18. Meanwhile, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) will come to Thailand in mid-July to launch its own inspections. If Thailand hasn’t fixed its issues by then, a costly and embarrassing downgrade to Category 2 seems likely. That said, last week consulting firm AVCON Worldwide said it had warned former THAI president, Khun Kasemsuvan, as early as September 20, 2013, in regards to evidence collected enough to downgrade the carrier’s safety rating to Category 2, but despite several attempts failed to receive an answer from the national carrier. THAI also declined to comment on an enquiry from This Week in Asia-Pacific Aviation.
Thailand’s Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) has come under renewed scrutiny for failing to update foreign authorities about the “significant safety concerns” raised in the International Civil Aviation Organization’s (ICAO’s) last audit in January.
Under a memorandum of understanding signed last month, the DCA agreed to submit regular updates to the Japan Civil Aviation Bureau (JCAB), outlining its progress in rectifying the long list of security breaches raised by the UN aviation watchdog. In return, the JCAB lifted a charter-flight ban on six Thai-registered carriers, including Thai Airways International (THAI), NokScoot, Asian Air, Jet Asia Airways, Asia Atlantic Airlines and Thai AirAsia X. The agreement allows the airlines to operate charter flights to Japan from April 11 to May 31.
Thailand’s Transport Minister, Prajin Juntong, said the Japanese authorities had recently contacted DCA director general, Somchai Phiphuttawat, to complain they had not observed any improvements in coordination with the Thai authorities, nor received sufficient progress reports. In response, Prajin said a committee was being formed to improve communications between the two countries and added that DCA chief Somchai had recently travelled to Germany and South Korea to address the ICAO audit findings. This Week in Asia-Pacific Aviation understands that Somchai was also lobbying the German and Korean authorities against following the JCAB’s lead in imposing bans on Thai carriers.
The Thai DCA has finalized a detailed corrective action plan, which it plans to present to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha on May 10 before forwarding it to ICAO and the JCAB. ICAO said it expected to release the results of its audit of said action plan by June 18. Meanwhile, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) will come to Thailand in mid-July to launch its own inspections. If Thailand hasn’t fixed its issues by then, a costly and embarrassing downgrade to Category 2 seems likely. That said, last week consulting firm AVCON Worldwide said it had warned former THAI president, Khun Kasemsuvan, as early as September 20, 2013, in regards to evidence collected enough to downgrade the carrier’s safety rating to Category 2, but despite several attempts failed to receive an answer from the national carrier. THAI also declined to comment on an enquiry from This Week in Asia-Pacific Aviation.
May 11, 2015, 9:02 am
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(I'm considering whether my three flights on TG in Aug-Sept might be cancelled, or maybe *should* be cancelled by *me*...)
May 12, 2015, 1:37 am
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Can anyone with knowledge of "behind the scenes" share any detail on how a demotion to Category 2 would impact TG specifically? Lack of trust in the charters would seem to drive traffic to TG I suspect, but will TG itself then lose more lucrative business from international customers?
(I'm considering whether my three flights on TG in Aug-Sept might be cancelled, or maybe *should* be cancelled by *me*...)
(I'm considering whether my three flights on TG in Aug-Sept might be cancelled, or maybe *should* be cancelled by *me*...)
But other airlines such as Thai air Asia seems more affected as they had/have precise plans to launch a new route (such as to Chitose) which will be affected.