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Old Apr 10, 2015, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by wheresmybagba
Sorry, I should have been clearer. I wasn't referring to the hyperlink.

More that an aircraft going tech is hardly unusual, any any relationship to the subject of this thread is very tenuous!
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/tran...-safety-checks
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 8:52 pm
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Yes, well aware of this. Still tenuous.

So, are you saying that you believe this aircraft was not allowed to depart London because authorities there uncovered something that was overlooked or ignored in Bangkok...or that it's probable that was the case?
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 9:27 pm
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Originally Posted by wheresmybagba
Yes, well aware of this. Still tenuous.

So, are you saying that you believe this aircraft was not allowed to depart London because authorities there uncovered something that was overlooked or ignored in Bangkok...or that it's probable that was the case?
I think it was a technical issue that can occur in every airlines. Let's say if LH or SQ aircraft had gone tech, do you think that it was occurred because the departed authority found something that was ignored by the airline.
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 11:41 pm
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Originally Posted by wheresmybagba
Yes, well aware of this. Still tenuous.

So, are you saying that you believe this aircraft was not allowed to depart London because authorities there uncovered something that was overlooked or ignored in Bangkok...or that it's probable that was the case?
Sorry if my post are a bit tenuous maybe should be in another thread.
But safety checks all be it in London were made,i am not suggesting safety checks were over looked in Thailand,just highlighting that maybe other countries are keeping a closer eye on Thai flights since Japan made the press release mentioned in the OP.

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Old Apr 13, 2015, 10:50 pm
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Not good news...

Six airlines hold off on Japan tickets

Six airlines have been ordered not to promote or sell any flights to Japan after May 31 in case the flights are cancelled due to safety concerns.

The six airlines operate scheduled and charter flights to Japan and consist of Thai Airways International (THAI), NokScoot, Asian Air, Jet Asia, Asia Atlantic Airlines and AirAsia X.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gene...-japan-tickets

Related stories: http://www.bangkokpost.com/hot-topic...air-safety-ban
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Old Apr 14, 2015, 12:25 am
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Originally Posted by joy16
I think it was a technical issue that can occur in every airlines. Let's say if LH or SQ aircraft had gone tech, do you think that it was occurred because the departed authority found something that was ignored by the airline.
Strange that around 24 hours later TG910 was also delayed by aircraft defects.
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Old Apr 14, 2015, 12:59 am
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There have been quite a few reports in the press, believe at least one is linked in this thread, re: TG equipment/procedures (crew rest, for example) being subject to increased inspections at foreign airports. This additional screening might, or more likely will, potentially lead to delays/cancellations.

THAI safety concerns extend to EU

The inspections, which cover not only the aeroplanes themselves but certificates and licences of flight personnel, have so far been conducted at four European cities including Frankfurt and Stockholm,...

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/tran...s-extend-to-eu

Increased inspections are probably more likely to reveal "issues" which might have been missed/overlooked by Thailand's Civil Aviation personnel, which are admittedly quite under-performing.

This is probably a good thing? Maybe it will speed up safety improvements and adherence to international rules, which seem to have been overlooked of late in the Kingdom of Thailand.



DCA: Charter airlines' own woes, not Japanese delay, cancelled flights


http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/tran...celled-flights

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Old Apr 14, 2015, 1:27 am
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Yet another example of "you know you're in trouble when..."

Chinese Civil Aviation Admin to inspect Thailand’s safety standards

BANGKOK, 14 April 2015 (NNT) - The Ministry of Transport has revealed that the Chinese Civil Aviation Administration will be visiting Thailand to inspect the Kingdom’s aviation safety standards.

Deputy Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith said the Civil Aviation Administration of China will be traveling to Thailand in the beginning of May to inspect the Kingdom’s safety policies. He said that he was confident that the country would fare well in the inspection.

The Deputy Transport Minister spoke of the progress made by the Kingdom to update the country’s aviation policies, after a recent safety audit by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) reported Significant Safety Concerns (SSC) with the Thai Department of Civil Aviation (DCA).

The report has triggered restrictions on Thai-registered airlines by many ICAO member countries. All Thai airlines have been instructed to vigorously address outstanding SSCs.

Mr. Arkhom revealed that the DCA will periodically submit a progress report to the ICAO up until the country’s deadline of June 2. He admitted that it is unlikely Thailand would be able to fix all its issues in time. However, submitting progress reports would demonstrate the country’s commitment to improving its safety standards.

http://thainews.prd.go.th/CenterWeb/...L5804140010004
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Old Apr 14, 2015, 5:18 am
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Originally Posted by transpac
Not good news...

Six airlines hold off on Japan tickets

Six airlines have been ordered not to promote or sell any flights to Japan after May 31 in case the flights are cancelled due to safety concerns.

The six airlines operate scheduled and charter flights to Japan and consist of Thai Airways International (THAI), NokScoot, Asian Air, Jet Asia, Asia Atlantic Airlines and AirAsia X.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gene...-japan-tickets

Related stories: http://www.bangkokpost.com/hot-topic...air-safety-ban
As for Thai not promoting flights to Japan I believe that would only affect possible charter flights/new services. The existing schedule is not affected at this time. As of now there is no problem booking TG services to Japan after May 31. The article is not clearly worded (IMO)

I suspect you would see restrictions on NH and JL services from Japan coming from Thai authorities if Japan suddenly refused to let TG fly there.
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Old Apr 14, 2015, 8:55 pm
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that was in TG's email to me, earlier this month:

We realize how challenging it is to be in the aviation industry in time of global economic downturn and fierce competition. In fact, we have not been affected by recent safety audit by International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) because they banned Thai charters of budget airlines for safety issues. However, we assure you that safety is of our prime concern, and we have constantly maintained our safety standard to be the highest level of our flight operation. Moreover, our Management put great effort to survive well and in continual striving to achieve the best possible service at every level of our organization...
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Old Apr 21, 2015, 2:48 am
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Prayut: Some airlines may be grounded

The Transport Ministry may ground substandard airlines to increase the chance of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) supporting the service continuation of standard ones, pending corrective...

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gene...ay-be-grounded




Thai airline services on the line as safety deadline nears

The passenger services of 28 Thai-registered international airlines will for a time be at the mercy of the countries they fly to because verification of their air operator certificates cannot be completed...

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gene...deadline-nears


Up in the air: DCA woes continue

Phuket Gazette - April 21, 2015

PHUKET: Fallout from the miserable results of the recent audit of Thailand’s Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) by the UN’s International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) is having direct effects both on Phuket’s tourism and general aviation industries.

Well-publicized action to ban any new Thai flights imposed by the governments of Japan, South Korea and China have already affected several Thai charter airlines who had planned to bring thousands of passengers to Phuket for the Songkran holidays.

The ICAO audit found that the DCA met just 21 of 100 operational and safety requirements under review, prompting them to issue a global alert over “significant safety concerns” on Thai carriers on March 20.

http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket-...continue/57885
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Old Apr 26, 2015, 5:12 pm
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THAI unveils safety improvements

Thai Airways International said it has started work to improve its safety standards in January and the airline is confident results will be seen before June.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gene...y-improvements
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Old Apr 26, 2015, 10:39 pm
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IATA calls restrictions unfair

IATA has defended the operational safety of Thai Airways International and Bangkok Airways as both THAI and PG have completed IOSA audits reflecting compliance with over 900 global standards on operational safety.

source: http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/tran...ictions-unfair
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Old Apr 27, 2015, 12:13 am
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the last two articles are somehow in contradiction!
IATA confirms compliance and TG says it is improving...
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Old Apr 27, 2015, 4:05 am
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Originally Posted by BinSabai
the last two articles are somehow in contradiction!
IATA confirms compliance and TG says it is improving...
Maybe they make more efforts after knowing the result of Thai DCA from ICAO.
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