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Tim at WebFlyer Jan 25, 2006 11:31 am

FlyerTalk Wireless Problems/Feedback Thread
 
If you have problems with the FlyerTalk Wireless post them here. This area has been set up at:

http://www.flyertalk.com/wap/
(If you try to access it with a normal web browser you will likely just be sent back to the FT home page.)

Note:
If you are having problems logging in make sure you are entering your password in correctly as it is case sensitive and some phone browsers will capitalize the first letter in a form entry automatically. See the post by PremEx below for details.

ScottC Jan 25, 2006 11:38 am

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.02; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320) BlackBerry7290/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

Works like a charm, thanks!

PremEx Jan 25, 2006 5:43 pm

I can't seem to log in from my fairly new Motorola E815 cell phone using Verizon Mobile Web 2.0 Browser.

I get a message from FlyerTalk Wireless after entering my username and password that says something like "Either the username or password are incorrect, or you are not authorized to access this service."

:(

SOLUTION FOUND. See Post #10 below.

:)

goalie Jan 25, 2006 7:20 pm

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logged in on my nokia 6102 as we speak

Tim at WebFlyer Jan 26, 2006 9:07 am


Originally Posted by PremEx
I can't seem to log in from my fairly new Motorola E815 cell phone using Verizon Mobile Web 2.0 Browser.

I get a message from FlyerTalk Wireless after entering my username and password that says something like "Either the username or password are incorrect, or you are not authorized to access this service."

:(

Just double checked and you are authorized to access the service so, it like a compatibility issue...

Could you try it again just to make sure that it was not an error in entering username/password? Then if it is still not working could you go to the following page w/ your wireless device and let me know when you have gone to it?

http://wiforums.net/mime.php

Thanks,

alanw Jan 26, 2006 9:16 am

My phone is getting redirected back to the main FT home page. The useragent is:

Qtek8010 (Mozilla\4.0 compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; Smartphone; 176x220)

Tim at WebFlyer Jan 26, 2006 9:34 am


Originally Posted by alanw
My phone is getting redirected back to the main FT home page. The useragent is:

Qtek8010 (Mozilla\4.0 compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; Smartphone; 176x220)

Could you hit the following link and let me know after you have done so?

http://wiforums.net/mime.php

alanw Jan 26, 2006 10:09 am

done.

PremEx Jan 26, 2006 10:13 am

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Figured it out! Brb.

PremEx Jan 26, 2006 10:26 am

Got on! Here's what happened to me:

I tried again but with the same denial and re-direct back to the log-in page. But I did figure out what was wrong and here's what my log-in problem turned out to be.

Apparently username is not case sensitive, but password is.

My phone's browser starts every line with a capital letter. But my password is all lower case. That was the problem.

On the browser's toggle options it only gives you a choice of letters, symbols, numbers but no case selection. It just defaults to the phone's default, I guess, and automatically capitalizes the first letter of each line.

So I just typed in a second/duplicate "first" letter to my password string (that second one naturally came out lower case) and then deleted the first capitalized one so that the password was all lower-case. Then I hit "Login."

And that worked! Don't know if you can add the words "case sensitive" at the password box or not, but that might be a good idea?

Looks pretty slick! Thanks!

Tim at WebFlyer Jan 26, 2006 11:52 am


Originally Posted by PremEx
Got on! Here's what happened to me:

I tried again but with the same denial and re-direct back to the log-in page. But I did figure out what was wrong and here's what my log-in problem turned out to be.

Apparently username is not case sensitive, but password is.

My phone's browser starts every line with a capital letter. But my password is all lower case. That was the problem.

On the browser's toggle options it only gives you a choice of letters, symbols, numbers but no case selection. It just defaults to the phone's default, I guess, and automatically capitalizes the first letter of each line.

So I just typed in a second/duplicate "first" letter to my password string (that second one naturally came out lower case) and then deleted the first capitalized one so that the password was all lower-case. Then I hit "Login."

And that worked! Don't know if you can add the words "case sensitive" at the password box or not, but that might be a good idea?

Looks pretty slick! Thanks!

Nice catch... thanks for letting us know what the problem was! ^

Tim at WebFlyer Jan 26, 2006 11:55 am


Originally Posted by alanw
done.

I have sent a support request to the WiForums team on this. Hopefully you will be able to access it soon, give it a try tomorrow afternoon and give us an update of if it is now working or not. Thanks,

Disco Volante Jan 26, 2006 3:44 pm

It looks great. Is there a help page on the main forum for the wap site? It has several new features, which I would like to find out more about, but would rather not do it on wap because its so slow (if that's not totally contradictory ;) ).

Tim at WebFlyer Jan 26, 2006 4:27 pm


Originally Posted by The Disco Volante
It looks great. Is there a help page on the main forum for the wap site? It has several new features, which I would like to find out more about, but would rather not do it on wap because its so slow (if that's not totally contradictory ;) ).

There is not a faq yet on any of the features of FT Wireless on the regular site yet, no. That does sound a bit contradictory though, yes... ;)

Craig6z Jan 27, 2006 6:32 am

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When I click on "My Forums" it has only a limit number of the many forums I subscribe to. Anyone else notice this, or am I missing a solution?

demiurg Jan 27, 2006 7:58 am

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Works fine here, too, when I use Opera.
Does not work with Pocket IE though. The The useragent is already registered at wiforums.net.

Tim at WebFlyer Jan 27, 2006 9:11 am


Originally Posted by demiurg
[SIZE=1]Does not work with Pocket IE though. The The useragent is already registered at wiforums.net.

Can anyone confirm? I would be surprised if it did not work at all, I thought I had read that it worked some, but had some display problems in Pocket IE because of some non standards compliance within P. IE.

tdo-ca Jan 27, 2006 10:53 am

works fine on a Treo - but seems a bit tough to navigate a lenghty thread (too many pages to load, one after another), though that is to be expected...thanks FT!

demiurg Jan 27, 2006 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by Tim at WebFlyer
Can anyone confirm? I would be surprised if it did not work at all, I thought I had read that it worked some, but had some display problems in Pocket IE because of some non standards compliance within P. IE.

BTW, the device is a MDA PRO (aka UTC Universal, Qtek 9000, PDA IV, XDA Exec, Imate Jasjar). I was redirected to the wireless help page. Perhaps this is due to the fact that this device is the first with Windows Mobile 5.0 and has a VGA resolution?

However, I just checked the useragent string and it seems pretty generic and does not seem to reflect anything specific about the device: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320)

Tim at WebFlyer Jan 27, 2006 4:01 pm


Originally Posted by demiurg
BTW, the device is a MDA PRO (aka UTC Universal, Qtek 9000, PDA IV, XDA Exec, Imate Jasjar). I was redirected to the wireless help page. Perhaps this is due to the fact that this device is the first with Windows Mobile 5.0 and has a VGA resolution?

However, I just checked the useragent string and it seems pretty generic and does not seem to reflect anything specific about the device: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320)

Have you hit the mime page with your PDA yet?

http://wiforums.net/mime.php

demiurg Jan 27, 2006 4:11 pm

Yes, it says, "already registered" or something similar.

Great to get a mobile interface to flyertalk, BTW! Thanks for all the effort :)

Tim at WebFlyer Jan 27, 2006 4:19 pm


Originally Posted by demiurg
Yes, it says, "already registered" or something similar.

Great to get a mobile interface to flyertalk, BTW! Thanks for all the effort :)

Sure thing. :) I have forwarded on the info on this to WiForums. Thanks,

ScottC Jan 27, 2006 6:54 pm


Originally Posted by demiurg
BTW, the device is a MDA PRO (aka UTC Universal, Qtek 9000, PDA IV, XDA Exec, Imate Jasjar). I was redirected to the wireless help page. Perhaps this is due to the fact that this device is the first with Windows Mobile 5.0 and has a VGA resolution?

However, I just checked the useragent string and it seems pretty generic and does not seem to reflect anything specific about the device: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320)

This is a typical problem with WM devices, their browsers claim to be normal IE browsers... One option is to manually edit the user agent reference...

FWIW; opera on a JasJar and K-Jam works fine.

SLF Jan 28, 2006 5:10 am


Originally Posted by Tim at WebFlyer
Can anyone confirm? I would be surprised if it did not work at all, I thought I had read that it worked some, but had some display problems in Pocket IE because of some non standards compliance within P. IE.

Same here (my PDA redirects to the wireless help page). PDA is HP iPaq 5550; user agent is "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320)" and OS is WinCE 4.2

On the wiforums.net/mime.php it says "The browser information for your particular WiDevice has already been submitted to the WiForums Device Compatibility Support Team"

sandyweb33 Jan 28, 2006 5:38 am

On my Motorola Razr V3 all I get is "This page cannot be displayed". Will I not be able to access FT on my phone?

fduvall Jan 28, 2006 5:41 am

Does not work with Dell Axim X50v, which uses Windows Mobile 2003.

fduvall


Originally Posted by Tim at WebFlyer
Can anyone confirm? I would be surprised if it did not work at all, I thought I had read that it worked some, but had some display problems in Pocket IE because of some non standards compliance within P. IE.


robb Jan 28, 2006 7:55 am

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Well, it does work like a charm if you mean like a tiny ornament. :). It looks great, but I think reading posts one per page would end up being more annoying than slow page loads. What would really be cool is a way to set long pages for thread pages and fast, wap pages to navigate around with.

Either way, thanks for keeping up with the cool stuff!

opus17 Jan 28, 2006 6:44 pm

I tried it on my Treo. I couldn't get to OMNI, but I was able to see some other forums.

Dromomaniac Jan 29, 2006 2:47 am

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This is MUCH better. :) 1000% improvement in readability and speed.

I agree it would be nice to have 5-10 posts display per page, instead of just one.

parnel Jan 29, 2006 5:26 am

Neat tool...great stuff

jkw76 Jan 29, 2006 8:53 am

Loads up "ok" with the wap browser on a Nokia 6021 phone, but the header elements on the pages (coloured background bits), etc are transposed vertically and therefore a little difficult to read. The thread posts however display fine, so workable.

Neat feature of FT - thanks! ^

demiurg Jan 29, 2006 8:53 am


Originally Posted by Dromomaniac
I agree it would be nice to have 5-10 posts display per page, instead of just one.

Me too. In my experience the biggest issues with mobile web browsing are too many or large images as well as complex tables/frames (these are gone with the very neat page layout ^ ) and less whether an additional 2-3k of text is transfered.

But then again, I use a 3G network most of the time :p

p1cunnin Jan 29, 2006 12:13 pm

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Works like a champ for me as well. Thanks!!!

cblaisd Jan 29, 2006 5:37 pm

Is this only for cellphone browsing?

Just tried with my wifi Palm Tungsten C; no joy. Tried with three different browsers.

Tim at WebFlyer Jan 30, 2006 10:01 am

Update on Pocket IE from WiForums:

WiForums PocketIE AHM for Windows Mobile 2005 is not yet available.

Personally, I would recommend that you install Opera Mobile for Windows
Mobile 2005 so that you can browse your WiForums installation in XHTML-MP
mode and/or WML mode.

Opera Mobile can be downloaded at:
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/

It may also be possible to install Opera Mini on your device.
So for now Pocket IE is not supported unfortunately.


Originally Posted by sandyweb33
On my Motorola Razr V3 all I get is "This page cannot be displayed". Will I not be able to access FT on my phone?

I'm not sure if this was not some sort of connection error, sounds like it could be. Please try it again and if it doesn't work visit the link I posted above to the wiforums site and let me know that it is still not working and any details about how it is not working. One other quick thing to try, your device may not handle http forwards correctly, to test this try visiting: http://gallery.flyertalk.com/wap/


Originally Posted by cblaisd
Is this only for cellphone browsing?

Just tried with my wifi Palm Tungsten C; no joy. Tried with three different browsers.

Should work for things other than cell phone browsing... if you are still having problems please visit the wiforums link above as well and let me know what the error/problem is that you are seeing. Also try this alternate link to see if you are having problems with http forwarding: http://gallery.flyertalk.com/wap/

SLF Jan 30, 2006 10:20 am


Originally Posted by Tim at WebFlyer
Update on Pocket IE from WiForums:

Originally Posted by WiForums
WiForums PocketIE AHM for Windows Mobile 2005 is not yet available.

So for now Pocket IE is not supported unfortunately.

My PDA uses the previous version (I can't remember what it's called exactly - PocketPC 2003?), so does this also apply to mine?

Tim at WebFlyer Jan 30, 2006 10:34 am


Originally Posted by SLF
My PDA uses the previous version (I can't remember what it's called exactly - PocketPC 2003?), so does this also apply to mine?

I'm not sure, best bet is to give it a try and see if it works...

SLF Jan 30, 2006 10:38 am


Originally Posted by Tim at WebFlyer
I'm not sure, best bet is to give it a try and see if it works...

I did, and it didn't (post #24), but the above statement from WiForums doesn't strictly apply to me, hence the question... Thanks!

Tim at WebFlyer Jan 30, 2006 10:46 am


Originally Posted by SLF
I did, and it didn't (post #24), but the above statement from WiForums doesn't strictly apply to me, hence the question... Thanks!

My bad, sorry about that. Thanks,

ScottC Jan 30, 2006 5:31 pm

Folks; one thing to keep in mind is that Flyertalk Wireless is for WAP devices. The Palm browser, Pocket Internet Explorer and many other PDA based browsers are NOT wap browsers, they are true internet browsers. WAP browsers are found in cellphones, blackberry devices and as an option on some PDA's.


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