https://www.corvetteforum.com

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f34dbcac22.png

Also, IBJoel it looks like in your example you still have the same ghost thread issue Flyertalk had in 2018.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30175884-post53.html

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...23472585c.jpeg

People, let's let IBJOEL do what he (or his higher-ups') needs to do. If it brings in more readers, great! If it loses a lot of their major contributors, that's their issue to resolve as well. All we can do is use it or not, move on or not when the time comes. As he has stated, the trending page is not making a comeback regardless of what is said here. While we might not want to accept it, it is what it is.

I will hang around, but participate less as my interests evolve (and the board's direction changes).

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For comparison - resetera.com is an IB (pop culture & gaming) board with what looks like ~10-fold the traffic of FT. It has a trending page. Might be a more "aspirational" board to compare itself to? Clearly they've managed to make having a trending page work.

See, e.g., Post # 114, supra.

Bad decision for me. I will likely delete my bookmark and just seek out FlyerTalk now and again when I have a specific question or a lot of extra time. Trending was a daily bookmark click for me.

I'm guessing "new posts" has always been present in the mobile skin and I simply missed it because I became so accustomed to the trending page.

But, now that I've found it, I'm going to give it a test drive to see if I enjoy scrolling through new posts and choosing threads that appear interesting based on their titles and/or popular.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...16898fdfd9.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f6104b6487.jpg

Yes, the world has always been evolving into a better place by simply accepting what someone else decides is best for us and no one ever speaking up !

Impossible to say if that's the case. Maybe they'd have 20 times if they removed it.

"Bring back the trending page please"
Stop pleading, they don't care.

Unfortunately, neither you nor I am the customer. Google is the customer. We are the product.

You misunderstand. You have made your case, as have others and have been given the response from management. Obviously they have a different vision for FT than the majority of the users in this thread. As far as I know, IBJOEL is just an employee who has received his marching orders so berating him doesn't help. So the question is how can you change the direction of this site at this point. Just venting in this thread won't do much. This thread isn't seen by most readers (vs my previous comment about if this thread were on a trending page). I haven't seen the announcement post link in a while so I assume even fewer readers are going to post their preferences here.

So the only thing I can think that might influence management is take the advice we give to people unhappy with an airline. We walk with our clicks/eyes. If the traffic goes down significantly, that might change management's mind. The hope being that this is done before the more prolific posters with the significant active knowledge base leave for greener pastures.

As I have said, I have noticed a drop in traffic in the existing threads and forums I am subscribed to. But others might not have experienced this.
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Many thanks for this - a serviceable alternative!

Personally I found the experience less than optimal. Here's why. On the first page of my "New Posts" page, I have 20 or so posts. Currently it goes back to roughly 20 minutes ago. Let's say the BA sub forum gets active (which it used to).... my page will become BA centric. While it wasn't perfect, the Trending page would give other forums a somewhat fair shake.

To be fair, I haven't explored it completely to see if it can group by subject lines (or threads with new posts even), but if all I see are BA posts, then the page isn't going to help that much.

YYZ and eqeqeqx are essentially right.

Let's lay our cards on the table: I make $22/hr after nearly 9 years here. I HELPED DEVELOP Trending.

If you think I make the call to cut it, you're out of your GD mind.

Corporations are not your friends. It doesn't matter how much time or money you've invested. Every decision they make is simply to fuel unsustainable "infinite" growth, whether it makes you feel horrible or warm and fuzzy. You and I are just some numbers on a spreadsheet to them.

Now I am trying my best to manage this situation and work something out that is a feasible replacement. So you've gotten it out of your system, I've taken it, because I get it. I truly do. Late capitalism is a true Hellscape. But I really don't need the contnued attacks, please and thank you.

I use the New Posts functionality on a regular basis and have always preferred it over Trending Threads.

Thanks for the honesty. Good to know it's not your view IBJoel.

The homepage Trending module seems to be back! Updated for me just now with new topics.

I can see new topics (a shortlist of topics) on the main page but https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trending.php still says page not found.

I'm back! I've found New Posts is just as much fun as Trending ever was. Actually, some of the 'smaller' posts are as good to know as anything I learned on the old Trending. Thanks for the pointer Canarsie. And to IBJoel, thanks for your patience with us as we vented our hurt at the loss of Trending. It's an unenviable task.

Yes, so we fixed the widget to update, but that page will remain defunct. I'm working on something more permanent

I’m not impressed. I mainly used the Trending page to find out what is going on and probably will only come back to FT to check the premium fare deals forum.

Also I don’t know what all the mention about SEO is, but having worked in the field, any SEO benefit from removing the page will be very minor. The loss of users (and their posts) will have a much greater negative impact on rankings long-term.

IBJoel Assuming you guys are okay with keeping "new posts" around, please consider linking to it from more pages. The main reason I didn't notice it on mobile until a few days ago is because it is on thread pages only (i.e. and not on forum home pages or anywhere else, as far as I can tell). You might also want to consider giving it slightly more prominent billing, though this is less of an issue because after we get accustomed to scrolling down to find it, the process would be second nature.

I'm not encouraging you to give up on you trending 2.0 concept by any means, because I liked it and a lot of others seem to be even more fond, but I'm quite content with new posts as a compromise myself.

ETA: A page I'd definitely like to see a link on is "my subscriptions"

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/subscription.php?...

Cancel my below request. dug a little deeper and found new posts. I agee with the below to provide a more prominent billing.l

I must be a little slow I spent several minutes trying to locate New Posts and couldnt on the mobile app. May someone please point me in the right direction. I went to individual threads and several other areas. no luck.


[QUOTE=moondog;36078892]IBJoel Assuming you guys are okay with keeping "new posts" around, please consider linking to it from more pages. The main reason I didn't notice it on mobile until a few days ago is because it is on thread pages only (i.e. and not on forum home pages or anywhere else, as far as I can tell). You might also want to consider giving it slightly more prominent billing, though this is less of an issue because after we get accustomed to scrolling down to find it, the process would be second nature.

Yet another vote to please bring back the trending posts. It was my go-to and I really miss the functionailty of being able to see what's hot across the whole of the FT community. I'm not being hyperbolic when I say that I find the functionality of the 'new' FT to be <10% of what it was and I am visiting far less frequently as I can't face the prospect of trawling through tons of sub-fora to find the one post that I might be interested in reading.

Another vote to bring back trending discussions in one form or another, although my productivity has increased by orders of magnitude since the page was deactivated.

Having been an IT exec for decades this is a dynamic I've seen before.

-Radical change made to a familiar and well functioning user interface, not by consensus, but typically at the behest of a single strong willed individual.

-Skepticism is voiced by many who are overridden by dubious, but forcefully made and technically opaque reasons ("your common sense pales in the face of my technical expertise. ie, this will really improve SEO!")

-Change is universally loathed by everyone, advantages fail to materialize.

-Individual scrambles to salvage their erroneous decision ("everyone is wrong! this is wonderful!")

-revolt of the plebes and pressure builds

-changes are quietly undone, though damage is lasting

While BA is the most active forum, it dominance was far out sized in Trending Threads than its relative activity to the other forums. Believe the algorithm resets daily. My theory is the trending page resets early in the new day for the UK (midnight Calif?) (or after 24 hours of first appearing) and the UK posters being predominately BA, as their carrier of choice, got an early head-start on the other forums. So largest forum (but not that huge fraction of FT traffic) and early starter together yielded the results we saw, (BA generally being 50-80% of the trending threads). So the algorithm needed so tweaking, IMO

Over 2 weeks into the new regimen, and it is still sorely missed.
I think my FT engagement is down by at least 50%.

I’ve only been visiting the site to check this thread. I have no interest in clicking through each forum, especially given how many there are.

It's been a couple weeks now, I'm really curious if engagement is down overall. I know I've barely been to this site all week because my bookmark is Trending, and I can't find any interest in just browsing so when I get the "not found", I tend to just move to a different site.

Whether or not engagement is down, this doesn't seem to be such an important issue from IB's standpoint. I sort of get it; they want to be able to bring traffic to those "where's the best place to sit on a 737?" threads. Perhaps, more importantly, since they own dozens of forum websites, overly customizing them to the whims of disparate groups might correlate with higher costs and more complicated bug fixes.

In any event, I've moved on from reminiscing about the old trending page and am now looking forward to seeing (and opining on) its replacement.

100% agreed with this

Same. How stubborn

Any feedback from FT management, ie not IT who are not invested in customer satisfaction ?

Another vote to bring back trending link.

I literally surf FT 10% of what i used to, I don't even keep a tab open anymore and just use google and put FT at the end of the search in case some is located somewhere on the forums - sad days :(

I've been trying to engage periodically through the new set-up and I absolutely loathe it. The joy of the site was how I could learn so much from how the trending was curated. Now it's been reduced down to niche questions. Very disappointing.

I used to enjoy perusing the site via the trending posts. Without that, I use FT only for specific questions/answers. Seems to me that FT should want people to explore rather than target forums.

I really hope they find something functional to replace the Trending posts page.

That being said, I have low expectations. This page is benifical for people who are already engaged. I assume most decisions are based on generating revenue.

Plus one cannot forget my new favorite concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification