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And the first I knew about trending being deactivated was when it was deactivated because the banner was never shown on the trending page.
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Add me to the list of those who have learned ever so much about all things travel thanks to Trending Topics. I would love to see it back for all the reasons already stated in this thread.
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Adding my voice to the chorus. Please bring back trending!
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Originally Posted by Sweetone
(Post 36057256)
Trending was my go to page. I will miss spending time learning on Flyertalk. I'm another vote for a return of Trending. Please?!!
The thing is, a lot of the people speaking up in this thread are the among the much smaller group of content creators who happen to enjoy trending threads. Stripping away that functionality might seemingly be a smart use of IB's resources in the short term, but if the content creators drift away out of boredom, then the quality of the remaining content will diminish. |
I've drifted away already. Apart from this thread 😃
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Originally Posted by kathkiwi
(Post 36062826)
I've drifted away already. Apart from this thread 😃
Now just a quick flyby past one or two threads and then I'm gone. This is sad. |
Originally Posted by kathkiwi
(Post 36062826)
I've drifted away already. Apart from this thread 😃
It looks like there are a large number of longtime members who post rarely (myself included) mourning the loss of the trending list. I don't expect it would take much to convince those members to drift away, perhaps they are not important in the greater scheme of things? |
Originally Posted by WCT3U
(Post 36043684)
+1
I completely agree. They switched from a dynamic page under IB control to a basically static table of contents. There's no reason anymore for me to waste time opening https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php since a visit today will just give me the same content as yesterday's viewing. I guess I'll set up some bookmarks which take me directly to the forums I follow instead. I'd like to see the discussion that went into this decision. It seems to me that this will compartmentalize people whereas the trend showed unity by giving us a view into what people were talking about in forums we may not follow. I really don't use "social media" websites. Flyertalk is one of the few. But youtube has the "algorithm" that selects content for its home page. The youtube algorithm does a scarily impressive job giving me new content from channels that I subscribe to as well as suggesting videos that I might also want to watch. If I was asked about potential modernization to flyertalk, I would have expected it to employ its own algorithm to bring me more into the content and site. Showing me a simple table of contents with just a "last post" in each entry is reminiscent of how web sites were done decades ago, imho. Just an aside: I hate Youtube's algorithm. Fortunately for me, I found a way to inhibit all those annoying suggestions by turning off watch history. |
Originally Posted by returnoftheyeti
(Post 36040085)
Yeah, thats too bad. It seemed for some reason to be about half BA, but that may have just been the busiest forum.
Trending was how I found out about a bunch of cool stuff. I actually don’t understand this at all, all the new social media sites have a top, or review, or a “timeline” and they are often pushing ads, or what they want you to see. This will lessen “my” use of Flyertalk anyway. For example, the trending page is how I learned CapOne was buying Discover. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...74649935e.jpeg My eyes completely glazed over this….wow…maybe I should take some time off from the Internet |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 36062741)
I can sort of hypothesize why trending and/or new posts pages aren't appealing from IB's perspective; their SEO value is probably close to zero. The pages that attract views from the internet at large and can be marketed to them are presumably popular airline forums like BA (we've been told of its greatness many times) and travel hack type content (e.g. mileage run deals) that competes with blog sites.
The thing is, a lot of the people speaking up in this thread are the among the much smaller group of content creators who happen to enjoy trending threads. Stripping away that functionality might seemingly be a smart use of IB's resources in the short term, but if the content creators drift away out of boredom, then the quality of the remaining content will diminish. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 36062741)
I can sort of hypothesize why trending and/or new posts pages aren't appealing from IB's perspective; their SEO value is probably close to zero. The pages that attract views from the internet at large and can be marketed to them are presumably popular airline forums like BA (we've been told of its greatness many times) and travel hack type content (e.g. mileage run deals) that competes with blog sites.
The thing is, a lot of the people speaking up in this thread are the among the much smaller group of content creators who happen to enjoy trending threads. Stripping away that functionality might seemingly be a smart use of IB's resources in the short term, but if the content creators drift away out of boredom, then the quality of the remaining content will diminish. The first link related to Flyertalk is the 21st result and links to a blog post from Jan 9, 2020, not the forums. the 28th result is the UA thread “Everything You Want to know about where to sit on a 77-200 Polaris…” The SEO for the forums is…dismal, at best. |
Originally Posted by Norri
(Post 36063499)
+1
It looks like there are a large number of longtime members who post rarely (myself included) mourning the loss of the trending list. I don't expect it would take much to convince those members to drift away, perhaps they are not important in the greater scheme of things? |
You guys know how reddit has basically engulfed the traditional forum structure?
there's a phenomenon where google search is so garbage nowdays where you'd google a question and append "xyz reddit" at the end so you can get more candid and succinct answers from what seemingly are real people i do that with flyertalk! "sheraton eau claires calgary flyertalk" "air canada vdb compensation flyertalk" and what happens when i get my own question answered? I click on the trending page to see what's new and notable on the board at least that's what i used to do. i was among the perfect organic traffic customers, i think |
As I result of the FOMO from the loss of the trending tab, I looked for alternatives and see there are RSS-era see-everything "New Posts" and "Posts from Last day"
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sear...1785139&query= https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sear...1785134&query= What's the difference? |
Originally Posted by csycsycsy
(Post 36064603)
As I result of the FOMO from the loss of the trending tab, I looked for alternatives and see there are RSS-era see-everything "New Posts" and "Posts from Last day"
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sear...1785139&query= https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sear...1785134&query= What's the difference? |
Originally Posted by nancypants
(Post 36064634)
neither of those links is working for me, but the problem with “new posts” etc is that you don’t get any kind of sorting other than based on time of posting, so a lot of brand new and not very interesting threads to wade through and an occasional thread of interest
But yes, please bring back a trending page, ads injected and option to filter out BA :) |
FT Issues
If I click the flyer talk logo I get a page with trending posts on the right hand side, there is a button that says see all but when I click this I get a blank page saying "page not found "
Please can anyone help ? |
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Originally Posted by asovse1
(Post 36044369)
Not sure if intentional or whether I’ve highlighted something that will be shut off, but I’m thankful trending is still accessible by this url https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trending.php
This does not work for me
Originally Posted by IBJoel
(Post 36043709)
I will say that we are monitoring traffic over the next few weeks, so if it tanks, we'll know that the Trending Page was a significant driver
This smells like all the FF program changes : We have listened to our customers and so we have enhanced away the things they like, but dont worry we will keep telling them its better. |
Originally Posted by IBJoel
(Post 36043709)
I will say that we are monitoring traffic over the next few weeks, so if it tanks, we'll know that the Trending Page was a significant driver
Did thousands complain about its existence ? |
I just wish mobile at least had "new posts". With trending gone, mobile is left with nothing.
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Sadly it has been deactivated. I quite liked the trending page because I would see posts that might interest me in forums I wouldn't usually frequent.
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
(Post 36065031)
I just wish mobile at least had "new posts". With trending gone, mobile is left with nothing.
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I agree, I really miss it and hope they reinstate it. How was it harming anyone? If you wanted to click on posts of interest you did, if you didn't, you didn't.
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I knew about the deactivation. Not about this thread. Sadly I don't ever remember seeing a thread opposing the deactivation of the trending page on the trending page itself.
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Originally Posted by asovse1
(Post 36064486)
You guys know how reddit has basically engulfed the traditional forum structure?
there's a phenomenon where google search is so garbage nowdays where you'd google a question and append "xyz reddit" at the end so you can get more candid and succinct answers from what seemingly are real people i do that with flyertalk! "sheraton eau claires calgary flyertalk" "air canada vdb compensation flyertalk" and what happens when i get my own question answered? I click on the trending page to see what's new and notable on the board at least that's what i used to do. i was among the perfect organic traffic customers, i think Funny thing is, in the automotive community they bemoan the death of forums due to Reddit and Facebook. Whatever, I am just an old man yelling at clouds. |
The trending page wasn't really a page, just a list of threads with a drop-down menu in which we could choose: trending, popular, or new (all three options resulted in nearly identical lists). As such, I'm not sure whether or not there was any available real estate that could have been used to provide an announcement and/or solicitation of our feedback.
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I have always just used the New Posts link as my entry point. Seems like if something was "Trending", it would show up in the last ~24hrs of posts.
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Originally Posted by travellingmip
(Post 36065115)
I knew about the deactivation. Not about this thread. Sadly I don't ever remember seeing a thread opposing the deactivation of the trending page on the trending page itself.
It might be interesting if this thread were linked to some of the more active forums and to see the response. |
Originally Posted by StuckInYYZ
(Post 36065221)
Sadly, I suspect this thread would have appeared on the trending page and would see more of a response if it did. I think the people showing up here are those who wanted to report the page not found error. And once those links are gone, very few new contributors will show up.
It might be interesting if this thread were linked to some of the more active forums and to see the response. |
Originally Posted by xooz
(Post 36065185)
I have always just used the New Posts link as my entry point. Seems like if something was "Trending", it would show up in the last ~24hrs of posts.
These two user flows serve(ed) essentially the same purpose, and I was/am fine with both. |
I suppose its a case of who this site is for , is it the users , or people paid to maintain it.
I have certainly see nothing to suggest an improvement by this action, nor a reason to delate it. Its also very unprofessional, the see all button should be removed if it does not work, or lead to a link explaining why it does not. Its all normal marketing speak " I ve been if I can do this thousands of times and I keep telling people there is no demand " !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please , simply put it back |
I’m so disappointed about the demise of this thread. I am a daily user of FT but I often started with the trending thread bc took me off my blinders path. Learned great things about TK, for example, and flying them this year. Learned how I could get an upgrade at a hotel chain less frequented and it worked. That got more ads in my face, if that’s what FT is going for.
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Here at FlyerTalk (FT), I seldom use the Trending page on my cell phone. It was dominated by BA, on which I have not flown since 1989, living on the opposite side of the world.
I am in favor of whatever helps FT stay efficient, maintain its existing information technology (IT) relationships, and save money. :idea: Those concerned about search engine optimization (SEO) might consider using DuckDuckGo, which seems to return a reasonable number of FT answers to my queries. |
So disappointed to see Trending Threads go! I discovered so much content through that link. Very sad.
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For some reason, the trending page always was predominantly British Airways posts. I wondered if the algorithm was somehow off or just the folks in that sub are *that* much more active
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Originally Posted by StuckInYYZ
(Post 36065221)
Sadly, I suspect this thread would have appeared on the trending page and would see more of a response if it did. I think the people showing up here are those who wanted to report the page not found error. And once those links are gone, very few new contributors will show up.
It might be interesting if this thread were linked to some of the more active forums and to see the response.
Originally Posted by travellingmip
(Post 36065266)
The post announcing the deactivation should have allowed comments. That is also something I noticed. I regret not starting a thread about it before the deactivation date.
if you’re active enough on other forums, just link this thread in your forum signature to drive more traffic to it |
Moderator's note
This clearly has engendered strong opinions.
But posts were trending incivility and personal attacks on [MENTION=790438]IBJoel[/MENTION] A couple of such have been deleted. Please stay on the side of civility going forward. cblaisd, Moderator, Technical Support forum |
Originally Posted by Adam1222
(Post 36065943)
For some reason, the trending page always was predominantly British Airways posts. I wondered if the algorithm was somehow off or just the folks in that sub are *that* much more active
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Originally Posted by Canarsie
(Post 36066023)
The British Airways | Executive Club forum is by far the most active forum on FlyerTalk; so the answer is the latter.
And that's the point, they were not "informative", for that you would go to the Forum you wanted and search/ask for an answer to a question you had. They were entertaining. And what's wrong with that? Why can't Flyertalk continue to be both? |
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