Wow, I'm glad I decided to check in today! I'm really digging that term and will try to work it into my presentation next week.:D

It's odd how so many people are saying that the lack of the trending page will end their engagement with the site, given that there were sticky messages for weeks (months?) that the trending page was going away, and yet people didn't even realize it had gone away until weeks later!!

I'm not sure how the original announcement was unclear or why you wouldn't have thought to check this subforum, but I'm glad you've recognized the unintended benefit of increasing your productivity.

Just couldn't fathom they were turning off the most interesting thing on FT (by far). I figured I was misunderstanding the post.

Not blaming anyone. It was a me problem.

Fair! There's an insinuation in some of the posts here that the change was made without warning

Recently, I've started chancing upon entire posts that are obviously AI generated. If this were to become more commonplace, FT could theoretically evolve into state where engagement is increasingly bot on bot (e.g. bots can argue with each other about overhead bin space too). Then ib would still be able to play its SEO game, but without giving much thought to placating us human members.

Originally it wasn't showing in the mobile pages. At least not to me. But a lot of yellow banners do not. And barring me sitting in front of one of my desktops, I generally do not use the full version. I only chanced on this thread once they disabled the page.

somewhat ironically, the yellow banner was never shown on the trending page, at least on mobile. If, like me, 95% of your browsing the site was through the trending page on mobile you might never have seen it.

Thankfully for the ability of FT to function, few people only engage in FT through posts already trending. FT is at its best when people are sharing information, not adding their hot takes.

My suggestion is a Trending Post page !

Why is there a See All button but when you click on it you get "Page not found"

Kindly just remove it.

There is obviously the software to find trending threads as they show on the page 24h/day, as you say they left the see all button but removed its functionality,

They tried to justify this enhancement but when that clearly was bogus they have disappeared from the conversation.

Dont remove the button, just put the function back

Where is this "see all" button? (Just like was the case with the "new posts" button several weeks ago, I'm not aware of it.)

For "new posts," on the mobile skin, when you're in any thread, scroll down to the bottom and you should see "New Posts" beneath the name of the forum. Illustrative screen cap:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bdbdc5aea9.png


On the desktop version, it is at the top between "wiki posts" and "Search" while viewing forums.

I know how to find "new posts" (I was the one who first screencapped its button in this thread). I was asking about "show all".

I'm sorry, your question was unclear. I don't know anything about "show all" (or "see all" as written in a post).

No worries. I'm curious about it because I wasn't aware of it either, but since it apparently points to a dead page, I suppose I shouldn't be that curious.:D

Look at the top right on the “home page” of FlyerTalk to the right of the words Trending Discussions:
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f32d0fec7e.png

FWIW, that frame on the right, on an iPad shows up on halfway down the page instead.

And the most likely reason they did not remove the “See All” button, even though its a dead link, is its the same code for the “My Flyertalk” frame. Except the link works.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a96d2fece4.png

What is the distinction? What is a "hot take"?

Now I’m just sad about this. FT no longer fun to explore.

The problem, or rather the reality is, if this change does not produce a significant decrease in revenue, Trending won't be coming back regardless of the number of people who complain.

If you are not familiar with the phrase "hot take," Merriam Websters is helpful. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hot%20take

I think if one actually spent time perusing "trending topics," the distinction would be quite apparent. There is a difference between people providing information about, for example, how to book a particular ticket or whether a hotel offers a particular service, and a 300-post thread of people sharing their generic thoughts about how service on XYZ is awful these days, or responding to some news/blog article. The latter was more likely to qualify as a "trending" topic.

I am sorry to see so many only found participation in the latter useful, but I imagine that isnt the majority of FT users, despite the vociferousness expressed in this thread.

It seems like your beef was mainly with the algorithm?.

While I thought the algorithm could have benefited from some tweaking, the main value to me was having a curated batch of threads to explore when I had a few minutes.

I do not see Trending topics as mostly people complaining. Of course there is some, but FT is 90%+ entitled blowhards who blame airlines for all their problems in the world and lament a better time...regardless of the chosen threads.

Personally, I like to see the 3% gems and without Trending pages, I would never have found epic threads as bisonrav 's 8 back-to-back SOP TP run's, the collective works of eightblack and many of the masterful musings of one PUCCI GALORE , but to name a few (apologies to the many many I have left out, but I don't want to ramble on too far)

Reading threads like these can alleviate the need for a session or two with one's therapist.

I wasn't expressing a beef with the algorithm, but more a beef with people who think Flyertalk is "useless" without having easy access to a particular type of thread. I have used Flyertalk for more than a decade and had only even started perusing the Trending Threads in the last year. I found that the threads there did not represent the best of Flyertalk. I have returned to my practice on clicking on forums of which I have particular interest and/or expertise I can share with the community, and found doing so a net positive. Everyone has different preferences - but for me its better to deal with my frustrations and anxiety in therapy than in a discussion community about travel!

Okay, the powers that be have included your vote in the "I don't care" column. Do you have any more meta rants (rants about rants) to offer?

I think you are perhaps unintentionally proving my point, but I'd remind you that rules of civility still apply in this thread.

​​​​​​My views as to the change are just as appropriate (if not more so) than some of the, at best, intemperate negative commentary in this thread.

And why is the comment relevant, 99% of posters here simply want access to what they have been using for years.

Why would you care what others enjoy, and why would you "imagine" this thread is not reflective of the majority of FT users ? Neither you not I have access to any data that can prove or disprove that statement. I also dont see how it adds to the discussion.

My views on the subject of the thread add to the discussion as much, if not more, than your views on whether my thoughts on the subject add to the discussion. I had substantive points, and shared them without personal attacks.

While I do not have access to statistical data, I certainly have observational data over my time engaging in Flyertalk (15 years and nearly 10x as many posts as you), and my experience has been that the tone and tenor of the majority (certainly not all) posts in this thread is not reflective of the community as a whole. If you feel that my contributions to this thread, which is about discussions of the "Trending" post elimination-- not a poll for a vote, is insignificant, unimportant, or irrespective of your experience, feel free to either ignore them or share your contrary experiences.

Are you saying I should ignore your comments? I merely am pointing out that you cannot have any data to support your comments. Not saying you are wrong, as I and You simply cannot know, we can only share our own valid personal experiences . The only thing personal was that I replied to your personal post.

I don't think this response is consistent with your initial post, asking "why I care" and that my comment does not "add to the discussion." Yes, I am saying that rather than saying someone's post "adds nothing to the discussion," ignoring the comment is an option. Indeed, that is contained in the Rules of the community, which explicitly prohibit "Unhelpful posts, such as... those that merely comment on the worthiness of others' posts or threads."

A post sharing observational data and an opinion -- which describes many, if not most, of the posts on Flyertalk, is quite different from telling someone their post and/or opinion is worthless and suggesting they should not post. I think any member of this community engaging in good faith--particularly one that reads "trending topics"-- knows that. And yes, I do not have any scientific data to support that statement, though it is still responsive. Cheers.

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