Suggestion: Proposal For a 9W (Jet Airways (India)) Forum
Nov 8, 2007, 6:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Jenbel
Yes, that would apply in cases where I was unsure if a forum would succeed or not - but I don't think that a trial is appropriate for every forum which anyone wants to suggest.
I am just interested to know what is the standard that each individual TB members use to determine which forum/subforums they support for "opening", "closing", or "trying".
Originally Posted by Dovster
1. I do not believe in giving "trial runs" to forums. I do believe that when I vote to establish a forum I should be prepared to vote to dismantle it -- be it after one year or 5 years. As I said repeatedly, I think a forum is viable with 100 threads in the first year and 200 a year after that.
2. Before voting to establish any forum I have to believe -- even if incorrectly -- that it will probably succeed. I do not feel that way about a stand-alone 9W forum.
2. Before voting to establish any forum I have to believe -- even if incorrectly -- that it will probably succeed. I do not feel that way about a stand-alone 9W forum.
2. Given your responses in this thread, it is obvious that you are not supportive on a stand-alone 9W forum. What is less obvious is what your standard is for supporting the opening, closing or reorganization of forums and subforums.
Originally Posted by Cholula
Since it's public knowledge that TB is now voting on an Airlines of India forum, where Jet Airways could have it's new home, I'm curious why everybody is still debating a standalone Jet Airways forum.
This current Jet Airways forum thread has been around since mid-July and has apparently fallen on deaf TB ears as no motion was ever forthcoming.
The much newer Airlines of India forum thread has garnered enough TB support that a motion was made and seconded and voting is taking place as I write.
I see the Airlines of India forum as a rational first step in the process. If, as many folks claim, Jet Airways becomes the 800# gorilla in a robust Airlines of India forum, I will be the first to support Jet having it's own stand alone forum.
Now, don't get me wrong. If folks just want to debate an issue just for drill, then be my guest. But a Jet Airways forum, for now, is a non-starter as best as I can see.
This current Jet Airways forum thread has been around since mid-July and has apparently fallen on deaf TB ears as no motion was ever forthcoming.
The much newer Airlines of India forum thread has garnered enough TB support that a motion was made and seconded and voting is taking place as I write.
I see the Airlines of India forum as a rational first step in the process. If, as many folks claim, Jet Airways becomes the 800# gorilla in a robust Airlines of India forum, I will be the first to support Jet having it's own stand alone forum.
Now, don't get me wrong. If folks just want to debate an issue just for drill, then be my guest. But a Jet Airways forum, for now, is a non-starter as best as I can see.
I am just interested to get a sense of what kinds of objective standards current TB members are applying in their voting choices.
I'm not debating the issue just for drill, but I am interested in the answers to what standards TB members apply in their decisions when it comes to new or existing forums and subforums.
What it comes down to, largely but far from exclusively, is my potential interest in drafting a question or two for the current round of TB candidates.
Nov 8, 2007, 7:20 pm
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I am just interested to get a sense of what kinds of objective standards current TB members are applying in their voting choices.
I'm not debating the issue just for drill, but I am interested in the answers to what standards TB members apply in their decisions when it comes to new or existing forums and subforums.
What it comes down to, largely but far from exclusively, is my potential interest in drafting a question or two for the current round of TB candidates.
I'm not debating the issue just for drill, but I am interested in the answers to what standards TB members apply in their decisions when it comes to new or existing forums and subforums.
What it comes down to, largely but far from exclusively, is my potential interest in drafting a question or two for the current round of TB candidates.
Here are some things that outline most current TB view points...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480446
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=621871
Nov 8, 2007, 9:24 pm
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How is that mindless? Its the other airlines that is keeping that forum alive and not 9W or any of the other Airlines of India.. You remove the other Asian airlines and you’ll end up having a dead forum.. So its not in the best interest of FT to create a new forum where you’ll have a very few posters, since the “Airlines of India” can’t even establish itself currently in its allocated forum..
Again, SQTalk anyone??
Edited to Add:
Seriously, I would now like to know why the FT TB doesn't want to be more organized and structured with regard to setting up separate sub-directories (aka sub-forums) to segregate posts? (One can refer to the LX sub-forum buried in the M&M forum for an example of this)
What other criteria (other than the continued stipulation that 9w has not received enough discussion on FT) are required for the creation of a forum?
Listing it here would be very interesting, so see actual facts on the same.
Thanks!
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Nov 8, 2007, 10:09 pm
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But, for your reference:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427632
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Nov 10, 2007, 5:40 am
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Nov 10, 2007, 1:52 pm
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I think you'll find the various threads about it by searching. I'd have done it for you, but I don't particularly enjoy being commanded to do things. Sorry 
You might try threads started by me in LH and LX forums which will link back into the discussion thread in this forum.
You might try threads started by me in LH and LX forums which will link back into the discussion thread in this forum.
Nov 10, 2007, 8:42 pm
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I think you'll find the various threads about it by searching. I'd have done it for you, but I don't particularly enjoy being commanded to do things. Sorry
You might try threads started by me in LH and LX forums which will link back into the discussion thread in this forum.
You might try threads started by me in LH and LX forums which will link back into the discussion thread in this forum.
If this is the attitude of TB members, I feel for everyone!
I did find the link on my own, and the whole affair appears very childish - obviously sentiments are powering issues, much like politics, but still, I feel that if one doesn't wish to read about only Swiss issues, then it makes sense for them to have a separate forum.
Further, I would think that the main issue of creating and running a forum is about who would moderate it - this has *never* been mentioned in the recent ones that I have been active in or viewing.
Anyway, do I really care? Maybe not, based on the prior post!
Nov 11, 2007, 7:22 am
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Well if you were requesting me to do it, I assumed you'd have included either a 'please' or a 'thank you'. Courtesy costs nothing after all - even to TB members 
Since who moderates a forum is entirely Randy's provenance, and moderation is removed from the remit of TB, despite what some are arguing in the debates, then there is little point in us wasting our time debating something which is entirely out of our ability to control.
Since who moderates a forum is entirely Randy's provenance, and moderation is removed from the remit of TB, despite what some are arguing in the debates, then there is little point in us wasting our time debating something which is entirely out of our ability to control.
Nov 11, 2007, 8:14 am
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I just haven't been very familiar with this area of FT, so this is why.
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I vote for a new forum too!
I have been doing a lot of flying on Jet Airways in India recently. There are a lot of questions and good topics to be discussed on this airline, for sure. It would be great to have a focused place to do so.
Thanks, mods, for the consideration.
Bob
Thanks, mods, for the consideration.
Bob
Jan 6, 2008, 3:28 pm
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Though a specific Jet Airways forum wasn't created, you may find information in the relatively new Airlines of India forum.
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I'd vote for a new 9W forum too.. I feel There's enough and more discussions in the airlines of India forum on 9W to warrant the need... if you look at the % of posts about 9W in the airlines of India forum, i'd say its quite enough...
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