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B747-437B Mar 28, 2010 7:24 am

There is a grey area here that tends towards "discussion of moderation" (discussion about whether threads could be moved to the "Budget Travel" forum in lieu of creating a new forum) - and it is not permitted for non-moderators to discuss moderation issues on pain of suspension. Some outspoken TB members however are moderators and can therefore voice their opinions on this thread. The rest of your elected TalkBoard members can only voice their opinions via the ballot process. That is why I hesitate to post a more detailed position on this issue here, and I am some of my other TB colleagues feel the same.

NickB Mar 28, 2010 7:35 am


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 13663700)
There is a grey area here that tends towards "discussion of moderation" (discussion about whether threads could be moved to the "Budget Travel" forum in lieu of creating a new forum) - and it is not permitted for non-moderators to discuss moderation issues on pain of suspension. Some outspoken TB members however are moderators and can therefore voice their opinions on this thread. The rest of your elected TalkBoard members can only voice their opinions via the ballot process. That is why I hesitate to post a more detailed position on this issue here, and I am some of my other TB colleagues feel the same.

I don't think that this is right. I stand to be corrected if my understanding of the rules is erroneous but my understanding is that moderators are no more no less at liberty to discuss moderation than any other FT member. They can 'do the thing', i.e moderate, in the forums in which they have that function but discussing it is another matter.

judolphin Mar 28, 2010 8:51 am

Surely common sense would be used on an issue like this before suspending a TalkBoard member's account. It's not like anyone's publicly criticizing a mod's decision(s), just discussing if there's a better alternative to moderation available -- namely, a new board.

tcook052 Mar 28, 2010 8:59 am


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 13663700)
There is a grey area here that tends towards "discussion of moderation" (discussion about whether threads could be moved to the "Budget Travel" forum in lieu of creating a new forum) - and it is not permitted for non-moderators to discuss moderation issues on pain of suspension.

FT TOS calls it Discussing Specific Moderator Actions so how can speculating about what a moderator might be willing to do in the future within a forum be discussing a specific action if that action hasn't even happened yet?

Respectfully I disagree that the debate this far has tread upon taboo ground but rather merely discussing the proposal as made and suggesting alternatives. It should be noted also that it was a moderator who suggested possible thread relocation, not a regular member if my reading back upthread is correct. Just MHO.

lo2e Mar 28, 2010 9:25 am

I certainly apologize my post here was likely what brought up B747-437B's mention of discussing moderator actions. I certainly wouldn't have asked the question that was asked and removed if I didn't think it had relevance to the need (or lack thereof) of the proposed forum. I was merely trying to get a sense of what does or doesn't typically happen right now so that I (and possibly others) could offer an informed opinion on the subject.

Jenbel Mar 28, 2010 9:25 am


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 13663700)
There is a grey area here that tends towards "discussion of moderation" (discussion about whether threads could be moved to the "Budget Travel" forum in lieu of creating a new forum) - and it is not permitted for non-moderators to discuss moderation issues on pain of suspension. Some outspoken TB members however are moderators and can therefore voice their opinions on this thread. The rest of your elected TalkBoard members can only voice their opinions via the ballot process. That is why I hesitate to post a more detailed position on this issue here, and I am some of my other TB colleagues feel the same.

Hey, at least you've posted on the thread so we know you are aware of it (unlike 2/3rds of the other TB members) even if it's just to advance your own position, which really isn't anything to do with creation of an EZ or FR forum.

However, as someone who would like to see an EZ forum on FT, I'd really like to know if you support an EZ forum.

B747-437B Mar 28, 2010 9:47 am


Originally Posted by Jenbel (Post 13664119)
However, as someone who would like to see an EZ forum on FT, I'd really like to know if you support an EZ forum.

I don't believe that either Easyjet or Ryanair warrant their own forums quite yet, but I would support either a "European LCC" or a catch-all "Other LCC" forum as there is more than enough traffic for one of those, and the discussion is presently fragmented.

tcook052 Mar 28, 2010 11:41 am


Originally Posted by lo2e (Post 13664115)
I certainly apologize my post here was likely what brought up B747-437B's mention of discussing moderator actions. I certainly wouldn't have asked the question that was asked and removed if I didn't think it had relevance to the need (or lack thereof) of the proposed forum. I was merely trying to get a sense of what does or doesn't typically happen right now so that I (and possibly others) could offer an informed opinion on the subject.

Sorry I was reading another post by another poster about possibly moving LCC topics into Budget Forum as a first step towards a possible dedicated forum.

Moderator2 Mar 28, 2010 3:54 pm

Let's limit the discussion to EasyJet/Ryanair. Real or theoretical moderator actions have nothing to do with this forum.

Spiff Mar 28, 2010 4:20 pm


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 13663700)
There is a grey area here that tends towards "discussion of moderation" (discussion about whether threads could be moved to the "Budget Travel" forum in lieu of creating a new forum) - and it is not permitted for non-moderators to discuss moderation issues on pain of suspension. Some outspoken TB members however are moderators and can therefore voice their opinions on this thread. The rest of your elected TalkBoard members can only voice their opinions via the ballot process. That is why I hesitate to post a more detailed position on this issue here, and I am some of my other TB colleagues feel the same.

Odd, I only mentioned that RyanAir and EasyJet threads belong in Budget Travel, not that any action should be taken on threads discussing such subjects which might be started elsewhere... :confused:


Originally Posted by Moderator2
Let's limit the discussion to EasyJet/Ryanair. Real or theoretical moderator actions have nothing to do with this forum.

Agreed.

I maintain that such subjects are best discussed in Budget Travel. I see no reason for either of these FFP-less airlines to have their own fora.

N830MH Mar 29, 2010 5:46 pm


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 13664227)
I don't believe that either Easyjet or Ryanair warrant their own forums quite yet, but I would support either a "European LCC" or a catch-all "Other LCC" forum as there is more than enough traffic for one of those, and the discussion is presently fragmented.

Understood. I think it should have kept this one in the Budget Travel. However, this is better way to kept it in the Budget Travel Forums is more convenient for you. I can't resist to says anything about new U2 or FR forums. Talkboard will have to decide to get voting to says I agree or disagree. Your decision to choose for which one is that. You have to choice for which one is better suitable forums is Other LCC or Europe LCC forums.

jimbo99 Apr 2, 2010 2:09 pm

I'm certainly in favour.

Yes, the ethos is to base forums around FF programmes. But those forums are full of posts that have little to do with the respective programmes. Those posts are allowed and good thing too.

If Easyjet/Ryanair interest generates enough traffic to warrant their own forums then go for it. To refuse this because of a lack of FF programme seems unnecessarily dogmatic to me.

Afterall - if a lack of a FF programme is reason to exclude them from their own forums, then why should discussion of them be allowed in Budget Travel? Indeed why have any forum that is not based around FF programmes?

In conclusion - once we've overcome the hurdle of "is it a valid topic of discussion on FT?" then it should be traffic/interest that determines whether an individual forum is created.

Sure, keep discussion in Budget Travel if there is insufficient interest, but not as a "punishment" for not having a FF programme.

judolphin sums things up very well IMHO.

mihajlonnn Apr 2, 2011 5:15 am

easy Jet problem
 
Last night i bought 2 tickets from easy jet.One from thessaloniki to Milan and the other from Milan to Barcelona.Everything looked allright but the time between the flights was kind of too short.I get in Milan at 16:15 and the plane to barcelona leaves at 16:35.But becouse this is my first time i buy tickets from internet i thought thats probobly enoght time for me to get to the other flight.So, the application let me buy the tickets without any warning that the check in ends at 15:55. Then i thought i should use the online check in.But if i carry one baggage a frend told me i wont make it to the other flight.
Pleace tell me if i can make it to the other flight or should i rearrange that flight, which btw costs 36 or something euros more for fee:S.
Anyone has any idea how i shoud fix this?

tom911 Apr 2, 2011 6:56 am

I'd ask the moderator to spin your thread off from the Talk Board forum and relocate it to one of the travel forums. I'll make that request for you.

N830MH Apr 2, 2011 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by tom911 (Post 16146711)
I'd ask the moderator to spin your thread off from the Talk Board forum and relocate it to one of the travel forums. I'll make that request for you.

Great ideas!! I think it will have kept separated from Travel Budget. U2 & FR will have create own new forums in Airlines forums instead of going to the Travel Budget. This is logical choices to create new forums is very conveniently.


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