My guess is that Southwest and JetBlue forums have the activity to support a forum.

The argument is that Southwest and Jetblue have FFPs whereas Ryanair and Easyjet do not (at least not in the traditional sense of an FFP).
Per se, in purely abstract terms, this is not an unreasonable argument. The question is whether the system works or not. If it does not, then perhaps we should consider to move away from that model, however heretic that might sound to the purists.

No interest.

Little to no FFP.

As bad as the Delta changes have been of late, their program will never even come close to sucking as badly as Spirit's, nor have so little interest.

It makes perfect, if not generous sense. Sorry you (and not many others) do not agree.

There's still little if anything to discuss and there's already a perfectly good home for such discussions. There's no support, nor content to warrant any other outcome at this time.

You mean like this one?

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/4549539-post2.html

Cheers.

Well put, Nick.

I strongly agree with this. It's always been confusing to me why they've been named after the FFPs rather than the airline. There's just as much (if not more) general airline discussion as FFP discussion.

Could someone who flies ULCCs or LCCs give some examples of the sorts of tips that could be provided re: RA/Spirit/EJ? Seating? Priority boarding? Baggage? Fee avoidance? Etc?

As someone who
1. Has decreasing interest in traditional airline revenue flying
2. Loved my AirAsia and TigerAirways experiences when I lived in SE Asia
3. Flew Southwest for the first time two weeks ago (I know, I know, they're barely LCC any more)
4. Has never flown Spirit or AirTran or RyanAir or EasyJet or Wizzair
I am increasingly intrigued by the opportunities presented by LCCs.

I think a particularly ripe area for development on FT is posting of LCC deals. LCC deals obviously don't fit in MR Deals, given FFP realities, however, flying Warsaw-WestEU for $10 (as WizzAir often does) is just crazy. I follow some European deals blogs that regularly post LCC fares and even after adding in all the fees, the deals are amazing. It's really good for my productivity that I don't live in Europe or I think I'd be gone every weekend.

In any case, I believe LCCs on FT is an issue that needs to be rationalized. Nick has laid out the case excellently. Something needs to be clarified/relabeled and/or re-arranged. I'm not dogmatic on what that is, but definitely put me in the camp of seeing something needing to be done.

I've been trying to catch up on this thread and you two have *finally* hit on my level of discomfort with the status quo.

All of this emphasis on FFP is really not needed anymore. When I want to read posts about experiences flying DL (having nothing to do with SkyMiles), I go to the DL forum. And there's plenty there to read about. Or I can ask a question there.

I'm an SPG PlatinumLite and when I want information on a property, I look in the SPG forum. Most of the time it has NOTHING to do with the frequent stay program -- but it's still the place I'd look.

It's time to think of airline and hotel forums as places to go to read about and post about those airlines and hotel chains -- NOT only for those with great (or even ANY) FFP.

Now, how do we treat airlines such as Spirit, Easy Jet, RyanAir, etc? Budget Travel is, IMO, a horrid place to put those threads. It's not where I'd look and I'm guessing not where many others would look, either.

And, look, we now have FOUR TB members who seem to feel the same way about this. Maybe it's time we try to formulate a plan around Nick's excellent post above.

Well said! :D

If TB is considering a makeover of current FT forum structure, I am all ears and have no objection.

Having said that & stick to what we have right now,...

If we apply your logic to TalkBoard Topics Forum, where maybe 90%+ of FTers don't look and/or don't know its existence that possibly leads to its underutilized and low visibility status among FTers, we should proceed without putting TalkBoard Topics Forum into good/right use as well? :rolleyes:

FWIW, the current forum description for Budget Travel Forum is:
Please enlighten me how "airlines such as Spirit, Easy Jet, RyanAir, etc" don't fit in with the above description/statement?

Agree and don't see why we can't make what is already at hand work better. Simply MHO.

I quite agree. Other than some thread housekeeping, the pushback against the Budget Travel Forum seems to be from a very small number of members who seem to not want to use the Budget Travel forum for the likes of Spirit, EasyJet, RyanAir, etc. who are by their own admission LCCs.

Given the relative importance to most users of what we discuss here, perhaps we should completely hide the link to TBT. :p

Is that part of the grand scheme of FT makeover being discussed behind the (private TB) closed door? :D

Being the TB president, you probably shouldn't spill the beans. ;):p

I must say that I am quite intrigued by this notion of "very small" number: given that more than one thread out of two concerning Ryanair is posted outside the BT forum and that 2 threads out of three concerning Easyjet is also posted outside the BT forum, this looks to me like a very idiosyncratic use of the words "very small."

By this measure, the United States should be regarded as a "very small" country in North America in terms of population.

It seems to me that we are in denial territory here: let's close our eyes and bury our head into the sand and pretend the problem does not exist.

I think we're in making a mountain out of a molehill mode here. Has redirection of misposted threads been tried? I see a very small number of people complaining here. Instead of jumping to "wow we better get appeasing pronto!" mode, perhaps we should try working with what's in place and what is currently very accurately described?

It's not a matter of "not want". It's a matter of poorly titled and non-intuitive, even for long-time members, much less newbies or less active folks.