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Old Nov 9, 2014, 10:28 am
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St. Tropez, Florence, Calvi compete with F7. So Swiss seems to be actively trying to make them bleed.
I guess it might be difficult to win a war with an airline backed by the airline that invested in virtually bankrupt AB and AZ
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Old Nov 9, 2014, 11:55 am
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I guess it might be difficult to win a war with an airline backed by the airline that invested in virtually bankrupt AB and AZ
A couple of years ago I would have agreed. The tide has changed.
AB
New CEO, 5% capacity cut, 200 jobs gone.
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/etiha...ts-570415.html
F7
Cutting routes very quickly. Some operated 5 months only.
http://www.balkans.com/open-news.php...enumber=197542
http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/...late-sep-2014/
AZ
Even before the deal takes effect there are already speculation of cuts to existing routes
http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/ne...om-summer-2015
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 3:54 am
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Swiss press release on the new destinations (bolding mine). GVA centric.
St. Tropez is missing though.

SWISS will be adding eight new destinations to its Geneva-based network with the 2015 summer schedules. The additions will bring SWISS’s Geneva network to 39 non-stop destinations.

SWISS continues to develop its product and services for Western Switzerland under its “Next-Generation Airline of Switzerland” strategy. Its latest growth plans for Geneva here are in addition to last month’s announcement of a substantial expansion of its Zurich-based network and a 50% increase in seat capacity on the Lugano-Zurich route following the transfer of its operation to sister Lufthansa Group carrier Austrian Airlines.

Attractive new destinations

With the cutover to the 2015 summer schedules, SWISS will add eight new destinations to its current Geneva-based network. Florence (with four weekly frequencies), Sarajevo (with two weekly flights), Valencia (with two weekly services) and Skopje (with two weekly flights) will be served all year round; and Palermo, Calvi, Thessaloniki and Zakynthos will receive new seasonal service in the summer months.

“These new routes are further confirmation of our consistent investment in Switzerland’s francophone region,” says Lorenzo Stoll, SWISS’s Head of Western Switzerland. “And our expanded range of services to sunshine destinations is a direct response to our customers’ needs and expectations.”

Helping Geneva grow

The new points will bring SWISS’s Geneva-based network to 39 destinations, compared to just 12 two years ago. So SWISS has more than tripled its range of non-stop air services over the past two years for the people of Western Switzerland and adjacent parts of France and for the local business and tourism sectors.

“SWISS’s actions here are very good news for us,” adds Robert Deillon, Director of Geneva Airport. “These new destinations include a prudent expansion of Geneva’s network in the Balkans, which are not particularly well served at present. And the new routes to Greece and Italy are a clear response to a demand from tourist travellers for two still-vital markets.”

Combined with the new 16-times-weekly Geneva-Lugano route, which was unveiled last month, the eight new destinations will further enhance the attractiveness of SWISS’s Geneva-based network. At the same time, they will further cement SWISS’s role as a major provider of air services to and from Geneva.

The new flights can be booked with immediate effect on swiss.com for as little as CHF 39 one-way (under the Geneva Economy Light fare terms and conditions).
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 5:31 am
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I think the Dash 8-400 is too big to land in St. Tropez. Dash 8-100/200 or maybe Dash 8-300, but not 8-400 I think.

But VO only gave -400s on lease to Swiss.
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 6:34 am
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Sarajevo and Skopje? It seems Mother Lufti really is taking the Balkans market away from OS and giving it to LX. Interesting shift, we'll see what happens.
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 7:47 am
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Sarajevo and Skopje? It seems Mother Lufti really is taking the Balkans market away from OS and giving it to LX. Interesting shift, we'll see what happens.
With 2 weekly flights each I wouldn't get too excited yet. Hardly the frequency necessary to build traffic in a destination.
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 9:19 am
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That's two weekly from GVA, in addition to the already announced heavy increase in frequencies from ZRH.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 4:36 am
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Linate announced, per airlineroute:
SWISS from 19DEC14 is adding new service to Italy, with daily operation on Zurich – Milan Linate route. This route is operated by Avro RJ100 aircraft.

LX1642 ZRH1400 – 1500LIN AR1 D
LX1643 LIN1530 – 1625ZRH AR1 x367
LX1643 LIN1540 – 1640ZRH AR1 367
Assuming all MXP is kept this seems to fit in between current schedule.

LX1612 ZRH0725 – 0820MXP D
LX1616 ZRH0940 – 1035MXP D
LX1628 ZRH1225 – 1320MXP D
LX1642 ZRH1400 – 1500LIN D
LX1622 ZRH1715 – 1805MXP D
LX1638 ZRH2050 – 2145MXP D

LX1639 MXP0705 – 0805ZRH D
LX1613 MXP1000 – 1100ZRH D
LX1617 MXP1110 – 1210ZRH D
LX1629 MXP1505 – 1600ZRH D
LX1643 LIN1530 – 1625ZRH D
LX1623 MXP1910 – 2005ZRH D
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 4:05 pm
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Checked GVA-SKG prices for next summer - looks like Sat only flights. Fares are about 10 times higher than announced 39 CHF. Let`s hope they will load some real fares soon.
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by GBM.flights
Assuming all MXP is kept this seems to fit in between current schedule.
Swiss press release confirming the above.
SWISS will additionally serve Milan’s more central Linate Airport from Zurich from 19 December onwards. The new route will initially be operated once daily with Avro RJ100 equipment in the 2014/15 winter timetable period. SWISS will continue to operate its present five daily services unchanged between Zurich and Milan Malpensa Airport.

Linate is Milan’s second-biggest airport (after Malpensa) and the third-biggest in Italy. The airport is located conveniently close to the city centre, making it ideal for business and tourist travellers alike. With its public transport services, visitors arriving at Linate can be in downtown Milan in just 20 minutes.

The new Zurich-Milan Linate service is bookable as of now. The flying time is about one hour.

Schedule (all times local):

Zurich-Milan Linate LX 1642 14:00 – 15:00h
Milan Linate-Zurich LX 164315:30 – 16:25h or 15:40 – 16:40h
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 4:58 am
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Per airline route NYC sees all Swiss A333 ops as of Summer 15

SWISS in Summer 2015 season is adjusting operational aircraft on Zurich – New York JFK and Zurich – Newark route, which sees SWISS A330-300 aircraft operating on all flights, starting 29MAR15.

Currently 6 of 14 weekly Zurich – New York JFK and 1 of 7 weekly Zurich – Newark service is operated by Edelweiss Air A330-300.

Zurich – New York JFK
LX016 ZRH0950 – 1235JFK 333 D
LX014 ZRH1300 – 1550JFK 333 D

LX017 JFK1810 – 0800+1ZRH 333 D
LX015 JFK2100 – 1050+1ZRH 333 D

Zurich – Newark
LX018 ZRH1720 – 2010EWR 333 D
LX019 EWR2150 – 1135+1ZRH 333 D
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 5:46 am
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Originally Posted by GBM.flights
Per airline route NYC sees all Swiss A333 ops as of Summer 15
From the linked article: "...Currently 6 of 14 weekly Zurich – New York JFK and 1 of 7 weekly Zurich – Newark service is operated by Edelweiss Air A330-300..."

That's not entirely true though; those flights have been operating with an EDW cockpit and cabin crew for a while now, but they have always been using the Swiss metal A330-300s...
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 2:35 pm
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Will the aircraft HB-JHM be returned to SWISS or will another Long Haul route be operated as of then with a WK crew.

I actually found the WK to do a great job on these flights, maybe even providing a better and warmer service than on flights operated by LX crews.

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Old Jan 5, 2015, 11:19 am
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St. Tropez, Florence, Calvi compete with F7. So Swiss seems to be actively trying to make them bleed.
I guess it might be difficult to win a war with an airline backed by the airline that invested in virtually bankrupt AB and AZ
Tangent to the thread, but it appears F7 is reacting to these new routes and LX practices.
according to ch-aviation:
Darwin has meanwhile lodged a complaint against Swiss (LX, Zurich) with the Swiss competition commission WEKO. Darwin's CEO Maurizio Merlo has told Reuters that Swiss would use "predatory measures which are clearly adopted as an attempt to weaken and damage Darwin." According to the regional carrier, Swiss no longer accepts Darwin passengers during flight disruptions and is proactively launching new routes such as Geneva to Lugano or Zurich to Dresden in competition with Darwin.
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Old Jan 7, 2015, 9:52 am
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Seems like GVA flights to LED will be cancelled after the switch to summer schedule. Lasted about 1.5 years only

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