Starwood Discount Codes (SET #)
#61
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Unlikely - a hotel chain is interested in selling as many rooms as possible. I certainly cannot imagine that big corporates like IBM or HP have capacity controlled SET rates. They may need 10 rooms a night or 5000 rooms a night around that globe. I can only imagine capacity controlled rates for a single hotel where they only give you X nights for a discount, but certainly not chainwide.
#63
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Unlikely - a hotel chain is interested in selling as many rooms as possible. I certainly cannot imagine that big corporates like IBM or HP have capacity controlled SET rates. They may need 10 rooms a night or 5000 rooms a night around that globe. I can only imagine capacity controlled rates for a single hotel where they only give you X nights for a discount, but certainly not chainwide.
Some properties do release additional rooms into the plan on request (e.g. if we're doing a roadshow or other event, it's fairly common for our corp TA to liaise with the hotel directly for this).
#64
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Which I suppose works fine until/unless SPG determines some of the usage to be fraudulent and revokes the SET. (I'm sure someone can tell us for sure, but I would assume not sharing the SET with unauthorized users is part of the T&Cs.)
#66
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The policy regarding who uses their SET codes is up to the company concerned.
For someone to post a SET code on a public forum where anyone can see and use it, to me, is just plain wrong...my opinion.
For someone to post a SET code on a public forum where anyone can see and use it, to me, is just plain wrong...my opinion.
#67
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Let's say, for example, that a company is in danger of not meeting their nights requirements. So they post their code here and encourage everyone to use it. Seems to me the "onus" would be on the company.
Not sure if this wholly applies, but a quick Google search turned up this:
http://www.starwoodpreferredbusiness.com/terms.html
#68
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fair enough. but, what about all of the other forums in which corporate discount codes are published?
#70
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i agree. it is not necessarily up the company. i believe it is probably a negotiation between the company and starwood. some companies allow consultants, etc. to use a corporate discount code but others don't. this is probably a result of negotiations between the company and starwood.
#71
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I think at the core of this issue, most of us (not all) see some real ethical concerns at play with going down this road. These codes are established as a bilateral agreement between two parties to enhance the position of both parties. To ride the coattails of someone else's deal seems a violation to me. (I understand the temptation, however!)
I strongly support the continued position here of not posting SET codes.
#72
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sometime in 2004, this issue was raised and i believe that the response then was that it was a decision taken independant of spg/starwood influence. I'm sure many posters including myself are a bit apprehensive about what to think of
1) set codes being removed/banned from even being mentioned.
2) a certain pm being circulated
3) mistake/low rates being pulled/not honoured, quickly sometimes minutes after being posted on flyertalk.
4) spg t& c and hotels responding sometimes unfavourably to posts featured on flyertalk.
It may be paranoid of me but i see a link here.i am not comfortable making any post on spg or its properties as a result. I hope i'm not alone and that the powers to be here will address this.
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If you have concerns that make you 'apprehensive' and 'not comfortable making any post on SPG,' I will speak for both ldsant, the other SPG Moderator, and myself, and encourage you to take the specifics directly, and privately, to Randy Petersen, who runs FlyerTalk. You can reach him via the Private Message tool.
Last edited by AZ Travels the World; Dec 2, 2007 at 9:54 pm
#75
This is how my employer has it set up with starwood as well - certain properties in certain cities have company-specific rates (not the systemwide 3 pct discount or whatever).. and there have been times where my coworker snagged the last room under the negotiated rate and I ended up paying (best available - 3 pct).
basically there is no positive aspect to intentionally sharing SET codes online in a forum setting.
basically there is no positive aspect to intentionally sharing SET codes online in a forum setting.
My reference was to exactly that - a single property where we have particularly well negotiated rates (e.g. the rate plan states the company name rather than Chainwide Discount). Capacity controlled rates are fairly common, as our discount can be fairly substantial. So if someone who isn't entitled to our SET is using it, someone who is legitimately entitled to use it cannot.
Some properties do release additional rooms into the plan on request (e.g. if we're doing a roadshow or other event, it's fairly common for our corp TA to liaise with the hotel directly for this).
Some properties do release additional rooms into the plan on request (e.g. if we're doing a roadshow or other event, it's fairly common for our corp TA to liaise with the hotel directly for this).