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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG)?

If a lower rate at an SPG Hotel is made available on a non-SPG website or non-SPG mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, SPG will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 25% discount off the Competing Rate (20% for Design Hotels) per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

What should I do if my claim is successful?
  • Re-confirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
  • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If they have not posted, then contacted the BRG team to get it posted.
Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?

Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.

How do I view my reservation after my BRG has been approved?
  • Log into your SPG account.
  • Click on your stays to view your current reservation.
  • Click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE.
  • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How do I add a Suite Night Award (SNA) to a my BRG reservation?
  • Follow the steps as outlined under: How do I view my reservation after my BRG has been approved?
  • At the end of this process, you should be able to select "Apply SNA to this Stay" from within your stays page.
GUIDELINES FOR A SUCCESSFUL CLAIM

• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.

• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public
• Cancellation/Deposit Policies and amenities must match on both websites to be valid

A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG

• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using the next lowest category of room and must include the cancel/deposit polices and amenities you are wanting- if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will remain what is booked.


• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• You must book and submit a claim for the room type, cancel policy, deposit policy and amenities you are comparing. If you a flexible rate on SPG.com, they will look for a flexible rate when processing your claim, even if a lower rate for non-cancellable is available.
• You cannot BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. All information must be the same on both websites and the claim will be denied.

• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is no room available with the same amenities, it will be denied.

• Room types must be the same for a BRG.

• If you are booking and comparing rates for a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved

• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.

• The cancel policy of an approved claim will be the same as what was booked and approved. It will no longer default to flexible.

• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website for that room type to help clarify.

• If you find availability on a third party website/app but there is no availability on the Starwood Website, then this claim cannot be submitted as you must have a valid reservation to submit a claim. If it is submitted somehow without a reservation, the claim will not be processed as a valid Starwood reservation is required.

• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • BestDay
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • Hotelreservierung.de (according to BRG team 5 Sept 2017)
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)


Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim but it must be the lowest rate for the hotel and dates. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities are not included in the comparasin
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.

Differing currencies

Marriott may deny claims where the difference between the comparison rate and the Marriott rate is less than $1. Rate disparities primarily attributable to fluctuations and/or differences in currency exchange rates are excluded from the guarantee.

Link to T&C
https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html
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Old May 29, 2018, 7:39 am
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Just got a SPG LNF rate approved the comparison rate was flexible but not the same last cancellation date (+4 days) , it involved deposit of the total amount.This is how I expect the Marriott LNF to work. so they seem to have gotten their ducks in a row and start to comparing rate types just like MR LNF. But you have to compare flexible vs. flexible. OR non-refundable vs. non-refundable, its a different game to be played ladies and gentlemen.
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Old May 29, 2018, 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by X-ON
...it involved deposit of the total amount...
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Do you mean there was a deposit of the whole amount on both SPG and the OTA? I just got denied a flexible vs flexible because the OTA takes credit card details and says the amount could be charged at any time.
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Old May 29, 2018, 9:33 am
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Originally Posted by Yannie
Do you mean there was a deposit of the whole amount on both SPG and the OTA? I just got denied a flexible vs flexible because the OTA takes credit card details and says the amount could be charged at any time.
same here. I am really starting to become fed up with starwood.
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Old May 29, 2018, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by Yannie
Do you mean there was a deposit of the whole amount on both SPG and the OTA? I just got denied a flexible vs flexible because the OTA takes credit card details and says the amount could be charged at any time.
No SPG rate was the Flexible rate where you leave your CC details but can cancel 1 day before arrival. OTA rate was also flexible but cancel window was 4 days before arrival and whole amount got charged upfront but put back onto your CC if you cancel. Quite common practice at OTA.
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Old May 29, 2018, 11:40 am
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I just got two claims denied because they compared two flexible, free-cancellation spg reservations against two OTA’s prepaid noncancellable rates.

They’ve decided to make a mockery of the BRG program...
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Old May 29, 2018, 1:28 pm
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Can anyone explain how cancellation policies change when you make a BRG claim for a Design Hotel?

I made a reservation for a design hotel on SPG, non-refundable rate. I then submitted and had approved a BRG claim for the stay.

The actual BRG claim approved email makes no reference to the cancellation policy one way or the other, but the system generated updated reservation email references a rate of "Best Rate Guarantee" and under cancellation details states "If you cancel before 06:00 PM hotel time on (**check in date**) there will be no forfeiture amount".

Does this mean the cancellation policy changes to flexible when a BRG claim is approved?
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Old May 29, 2018, 2:07 pm
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Does anyone have David Flueck's email? Is it [email protected]?

I see he was previously in charge of revenue management for SPG so I assume, if he is no longer tied into BRG/LNF, sending feedback to his email may be another way to get it to whomever is responsible (maybe ultimately still him now); and he will at least know how these changes could affect loyalty which is what he is definitely in charge of now

Originally Posted by X-ON
Just got a SPG LNF rate approved the comparison rate was flexible but not the same last cancellation date (+4 days) , it involved deposit of the total amount.This is how I expect the Marriott LNF to work. so they seem to have gotten their ducks in a row and start to comparing rate types just like MR LNF. But you have to compare flexible vs. flexible. OR non-refundable vs. non-refundable, its a different game to be played ladies and gentlemen.
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This is great news (relative to the original changes); did you have to call for reprocessing or include specific language in the claim to get it approved?

Originally Posted by Yannie
Do you mean there was a deposit of the whole amount on both SPG and the OTA? I just got denied a flexible vs flexible because the OTA takes credit card details and says the amount could be charged at any time.
Did you call and ask them to reprocess citing the T&Cs not saying the credit card detail details need to match?

Originally Posted by M.dA.R.

I just got two claims denied because they compared two flexible, free-cancellation spg reservations against two OTA’s prepaid noncancellable rates.

They’ve decided to make a mockery of the BRG program...
Was there a flexible rate still available on the comparison site when you received the denial? If so did you call and ask for reprocessing?

Originally Posted by PrancingPonyGoldMember
Can anyone explain how cancellation policies change when you make a BRG claim for a Design Hotel?

I made a reservation for a design hotel on SPG, non-refundable rate. I then submitted and had approved a BRG claim for the stay.

The actual BRG claim approved email makes no reference to the cancellation policy one way or the other, but the system generated updated reservation email references a rate of "Best Rate Guarantee" and under cancellation details states "If you cancel before 06:00 PM hotel time on (**check in date**) there will be no forfeiture amount".

Does this mean the cancellation policy changes to flexible when a BRG claim is approved?
You had this approved under the pre 5/25 rules. I have never stayed in a Design hotel so I thought you had to book the cheapest there...which maybe in your case was flexible?

Either way under the old rules all other brands were changed to the BRG rate which was flexible as you state. Just make a PDF of your reservation details so you have it but I've never had a problem with them honoring the cancellation policy listed on the reservation after a BRG was approved
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Old May 29, 2018, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by btonkid12345
You had this approved under the pre 5/25 rules. I have never stayed in a Design hotel so I thought you had to book the cheapest there...which maybe in your case was flexible?

Either way under the old rules all other brands were changed to the BRG rate which was flexible as you state. Just make a PDF of your reservation details so you have it but I've never had a problem with them honoring the cancellation policy listed on the reservation after a BRG was approved
Yes, this was pre 5/25. You did need to book the absolute lowest rate on SPG (Which I did), which was a non-refundable rate. However, when the reservation was updated to reflect BRG it looks like the cancellation policy was changed to Flexible.

I'll definitely get someone to confirm over the phone that I will not be charged when cancelling, just wondering if anyone has experienced this firsthand.
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Old May 29, 2018, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by PrancingPonyGoldMember

Does this mean the cancellation policy changes to flexible when a BRG claim is approved?

BRG is a different rate plan than the rate plan you originally booked, and it comes with its own cancellation/deposit rules. Once a BRG claim is approved your reservation is adjusted to the BRG rate plan and the original rules are substituted for those of the BRG rate plan.

BRG rules vary by property but are usually the same rules that the property applies for the SPG50 rate plan, which in turn I believe follow those of the RACK rate. In some resorts and most Design Hotels BRG rules don’t allow free-cancellation and require a deposit. So the opposite of what happened to you can also happen.

However, if the property has already charged the prepaid rate under the original terms of the reservation I believe SPG allows them to keep it as a deposit until you checkout or you cancel within the cancellation deadline. Being a Design Hotel I suspect they will charge it anyway as they’re probably not familiar with the rules.
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Old May 29, 2018, 2:26 pm
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Originally Posted by btonkid12345

Did you call and ask them to reprocess citing the T&Cs not saying the credit card detail details need to match?

Was there a flexible rate still available on the comparison site when you received the denial? If so did you call and ask for reprocessing?
At least in one of those claims there was. I’m sure they’ll come with some other bogus excuse.

I replied back and asked for reprocessing which will probably take another 3 days.
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Old May 29, 2018, 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by X-ON
No SPG rate was the Flexible rate where you leave your CC details but can cancel 1 day before arrival. OTA rate was also flexible but cancel window was 4 days before arrival and whole amount got charged upfront but put back onto your CC if you cancel. Quite common practice at OTA.

The same as your SPG LNF approved was just denied today by Lara S. from the BRG team.
"I have reviewed your claim and found out that the competing website, Fxxx-xxxxx.com, only offers rates which need to be prepaid. You are able to find this information in the Terms and Conditions of the website.
As all reservations on this website need to be prepaid, there is not an offer which matches your rate on your reservation. The rate on your reservation is flexible and needs to be paid at the hotel. Please be advised that I am not able to approve your claim. To find the complete details of the Best Rate Guarantee program, please refer to our published terms and conditions"

In fact its flexible rates, you pay the amount and its free cancellation until 6 days before arrival.

Can you give me your BRG claim number (by private msg) to send her, and hope it will UPDATE her practice about the flexibility she seem lacking ?

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Old May 29, 2018, 3:59 pm
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The BRG rules say:
Our Best Rate Guarantee* ensures that you will always get the best available rate when you book on our sites. If you do find a lower published rate prior to, or within 24 hours of, booking your room, simply submit a Best Rate Guarantee Claim to us and we'll honor the lower rate. It's now easier than ever with our online claim form. We'll also give you an additional 20% discount or 2,000 Starpoints. Guaranteed.

Can someone explain how the "prior to" works?
Does that mean I can submit a BRG even before booking a reservation on www.spg.com?
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Old May 29, 2018, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by DFWsakp
The BRG rules say:
Our Best Rate Guarantee* ensures that you will always get the best available rate when you book on our sites. If you do find a lower published rate prior to, or within 24 hours of, booking your room, simply submit a Best Rate Guarantee Claim to us and we'll honor the lower rate. It's now easier than ever with our online claim form. We'll also give you an additional 20% discount or 2,000 Starpoints. Guaranteed.

Can someone explain how the "prior to" works?
Does that mean I can submit a BRG even before booking a reservation on www.spg.com?
you’re probably reading a very outdated version of the T&C
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Old May 29, 2018, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by M.dA.R.


you’re probably reading a very outdated version of the T&C
I just read it on www.spg.com under one of the pop ups that showed.
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Old May 29, 2018, 5:32 pm
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Originally Posted by M.dA.R.


At least in one of those claims there was. I’m sure they’ll come with some other bogus excuse.

I replied back and asked for reprocessing which will probably take another 3 days.
I never rely on email replies if I want an approval. Always have to call because you often have to walk them through details or have them verify availability quickly before prices change on the competitor's site.

Originally Posted by DFWsakp
I just read it on www.spg.com under one of the pop ups that showed.
This has to be outdated because it lists a 20% discount; it has been 25% since January of this year!
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