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POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Competing Rate:
Competing Web Site:

Comments:

FAQ

What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG)?

If a lower rate at an SPG Hotel is made available on a non-SPG website or non-SPG mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, SPG will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 25% discount off the Competing Rate (20% for Design Hotels) per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

What should I do if my claim is successful?
  • Re-confirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
  • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If they have not posted, then contacted the BRG team to get it posted.
Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?

Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.

How do I view my reservation after my BRG has been approved?
  • Log into your SPG account.
  • Click on your stays to view your current reservation.
  • Click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE.
  • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How do I add a Suite Night Award (SNA) to a my BRG reservation?
  • Follow the steps as outlined under: How do I view my reservation after my BRG has been approved?
  • At the end of this process, you should be able to select "Apply SNA to this Stay" from within your stays page.
GUIDELINES FOR A SUCCESSFUL CLAIM

• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.

• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public
• Cancellation/Deposit Policies and amenities must match on both websites to be valid

A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG

• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using the next lowest category of room and must include the cancel/deposit polices and amenities you are wanting- if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will remain what is booked.


• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• You must book and submit a claim for the room type, cancel policy, deposit policy and amenities you are comparing. If you a flexible rate on SPG.com, they will look for a flexible rate when processing your claim, even if a lower rate for non-cancellable is available.
• You cannot BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. All information must be the same on both websites and the claim will be denied.

• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is no room available with the same amenities, it will be denied.

• Room types must be the same for a BRG.

• If you are booking and comparing rates for a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved

• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.

• The cancel policy of an approved claim will be the same as what was booked and approved. It will no longer default to flexible.

• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website for that room type to help clarify.

• If you find availability on a third party website/app but there is no availability on the Starwood Website, then this claim cannot be submitted as you must have a valid reservation to submit a claim. If it is submitted somehow without a reservation, the claim will not be processed as a valid Starwood reservation is required.

• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • BestDay
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • Hotelreservierung.de (according to BRG team 5 Sept 2017)
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)


Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim but it must be the lowest rate for the hotel and dates. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities are not included in the comparasin
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.

Differing currencies

Marriott may deny claims where the difference between the comparison rate and the Marriott rate is less than $1. Rate disparities primarily attributable to fluctuations and/or differences in currency exchange rates are excluded from the guarantee.

Link to T&C
https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by yorkboy24
I just called them about the issue of the 10% service charge not being included in the taxes column and instead being included in the room rate. Despite several successful claims in the past they won’t accept it even if the total amount with taxes is cheaper than SPG because it doesn’t explicitly say service charge is included in the room rate. This is a particular problem with Amoma, Galahotels etc. Very frustrating.
Really? I usually write out the amounts (pre and post) in the notes and show that the OTA is cheaper and it's gone through....
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 4:42 pm
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I’ve got at least 3 confirmed BRGs this way - iI deducted 10% off the total room charge for the service charge and put it in the notes. But this time they were having none of it.

I might email them this evidence. Basically they are saying if the breakdown doesn’t say it includes service charge in the room rate, they’ll take that rate as the competing rate. They won’t look at the breakdown on SPG. It’s not a fair comparison then.
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
I just called the BRG number and spoke to an agent who confirmed that a BRG can be submitted using a points reservation. That took all of 10 seconds.
That's surprising and interesting. Good to know!!!
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Old Mar 26, 2018, 7:07 pm
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Originally Posted by yorkboy24
I just called them about the issue of the 10% service charge not being included in the taxes column and instead being included in the room rate. Despite several successful claims in the past they won’t accept it even if the total amount with taxes is cheaper than SPG because it doesn’t explicitly say service charge is included in the room rate. This is a particular problem with Amoma, Galahotels etc. Very frustrating.
Cool!
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Old Mar 28, 2018, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by noeatbutgo
Cool!
A bizarre reaction to my post and not commensurate with the spirit of supporting fellow SPGers on this forum.
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Old Mar 28, 2018, 6:02 pm
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Took me a bunch of tries but I finally got it. Too lazy to calculate the final per night price without taxes. The rate with the 25% discount is as follows

Hotel Name: The Westin Lagunamar Ocean Resort Villas & Spa, Cancun
Room Type: One Bedroom Villa

Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: $233
Competing Room Provider: Amoma DE
Final Rate with 25% Discount: $124
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Old Mar 28, 2018, 9:47 pm
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Hotel Name: Sheraton Mustika Yogyakarta Resort & Spa
Arrival Date: April 2018
Departure Date: April 2018 (Four nights)
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 1
Room Type: Garden View Room
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: 921,500.00 IDR inc. tax and service charges
Competing Room Provider: Booking.com
Competing Rate: 646,800.00 IDR (862,400.00 less 25%) tax and service charge included per night
Comments: Got a response in under 40 hours.
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Old Mar 29, 2018, 1:06 am
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Originally Posted by yorkboy24


A bizarre reaction to my post and not commensurate with the spirit of supporting fellow SPGers on this forum.
Oops my bad- I intended to put that to a reply above yours related to FN reservation for BRG eligibility, sorry.
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Old Mar 29, 2018, 2:32 am
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Originally Posted by noeatbutgo
Oops my bad- I intended to put that to a reply above yours related to FN reservation for BRG eligibility, sorry.
That would explain it! No problem and have an enjoyable Easter weekend.
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Old Mar 30, 2018, 7:52 am
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Maybe better will be put on wiki which webpages they accepting now for BRG claim ? From end of 2017 I see that they starts to answer on claims with :
'The competing rate you have submitted is an "on request" rate which means that you are not able to get an instant confirmation of your reservation. With these rates you will submit a request for an advertised rate. Once your request is received, the Competing Website will contact the hotel to see if the rate will be available for the dates of your stay. You will receive correspondence back regarding your request usually within 24 to 48 hours.'

Or BRG team can more precise what is 'instant confirmation', as vtours.com/de/ have info that they offer 'instant' confirmation and they have this in their AGB, roomdi.com this same instant and sofort payment but BRG answer 'on request' ?? Easy it is silent devaluation BRG program from end of 2017 year.
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Old Mar 30, 2018, 9:19 am
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Same deal with trip.com, some rates are confirming instantly and others are not (confirmation time is clearly marked at time of choosing rate) - BRG rejects provider as a whole rather than just the ineligible (not instant) rates from them.
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Old Mar 30, 2018, 5:47 pm
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Surprisingly...since this past Wednesday, I am seeing response times like they used to be in the good ol' days!

But seriously...I submitted two claims Wednesday around dinner time...by Thursday lunch time, they were approved.

I had another I submitted Thursday around dinner time that was approved after lunch time today.

And the best time record so far - I submitted one before lunch time today, and in the last 30 minutes got the approval. Funny to be celebrating 8 hour reply times, but lets hope they are a sign of things to come...

Anyone else experience this? Or have I finally made it onto the BRG 'VIP list'?

By the way, my claims desktop, English and using straightforward sites...like Groupon via Google Travel, or Expedia.
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Old Mar 30, 2018, 7:18 pm
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yes, yesterday they reply in around 30min but it was yesterday. Now back again to more than 15h ...
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Old Mar 31, 2018, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by btonkid12345
Surprisingly...since this past Wednesday, I am seeing response times like they used to be in the good ol' days!

But seriously...I submitted two claims Wednesday around dinner time...by Thursday lunch time, they were approved.

I had another I submitted Thursday around dinner time that was approved after lunch time today.

And the best time record so far - I submitted one before lunch time today, and in the last 30 minutes got the approval. Funny to be celebrating 8 hour reply times, but lets hope they are a sign of things to come...

Anyone else experience this? Or have I finally made it onto the BRG 'VIP list'?

By the way, my claims desktop, English and using straightforward sites...like Groupon via Google Travel, or Expedia.

Yep a few days ago things seemed to be back to the good old days... can't comment about now.
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Old Mar 31, 2018, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by HHQX888
yes, yesterday they reply in around 30min but it was yesterday. Now back again to more than 15h ...
LOL maybe I did speak too soon...submitted two easy desktop claims within 15 minutes of each other yesterday...one already approved...the other no reply yet...which is already a 16 hour processing difference
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