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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public. SPG will deny member only rates from 3rd party websites.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved. There are a few exceptions where properties impose stricter cancellation term based on competing rates.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)

Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    Differing currencies
    • "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

    Link to T&C
    https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

    Practicalities During/After Stay
    • Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
    • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

    How to view your reservation after BRG has been approved
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.
    • Log into your SPG account
    • Click on your stays to view your current reservation
    • Click on "Set Stay Preferences", then SAVE
    • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How to cancel a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to cancel the reservation

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to select "apply SNA to this stay" link


POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old Oct 30, 2017, 10:17 am
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Got a denial due to no availability. Desktop website indeed shows nothing for this property, but mobile website (not app) still shows lower rate.

Called BRG team and was told that mobile rates have to be filed under "app" on the drop down menu, and a note must be included. Does that check out? I always assumed the app option was for actual apps like Kayak, etc.
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Old Oct 30, 2017, 10:42 am
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well over 48 hours since i sent in my last claim....no reply yet but luckily the 3rd party rate is not only available but has reduced by another $15....hopefully i'll get an approval before the rate disappears....
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Old Oct 30, 2017, 12:09 pm
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Looking at all these new figures and feeling frustrated I'm already anxious at 20h...
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Old Oct 30, 2017, 11:18 pm
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Originally Posted by 3rdworldresident
This claim took about 40 hours to get approved.

Hotel Name : The St. Regis Bali Resort
Arrival Date : 05/xx/2018
Departure Date : 05/yy/2018 (3 nights)
Number of Adults : 2
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : St. Regis Suite with breakfast
Starwood Rate : IDR 6545381 per night plus tax and service charge
Competing Website : Otel.com
Competing rate : USD 1539.54 per stay including tax and service charge
Actual confirmed rate : 4,639,614.50 IDR (~343 USD) per night, plus tax and service charge (5,799,518.13 IDR-20%)
I canceled the above booking as i found the lower competing rate for the same dates. Took about 50 hours to get approved.

Hotel Name : The St. Regis Bali Resort
Arrival Date : 05/xx/2018
Departure Date : 05/yy/2018 (3 nights)
Number of Adults : 2
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : St. Regis Suite with breakfast
Starwood Rate : IDR 6545381 per night plus tax and service charge
Competing Website : galahotels.com
Competing rate : USD 1392 per stay including tax and service charge
Actual confirmed rate: 4,166,183.37 IDR (~307 USD) plus tax and service charge, per night (5,207,729.21 IDR less 20%)
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Old Oct 30, 2017, 11:39 pm
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Hi!

I've been a long time reader of the forum, but never saw anything I could contribute to it. However, this thread helped me with my booking for an upcoming trip to Thailand and so I thought I'd share my success! Apologies if this doesn't post correctly!

Hotel Name: The Athenee Hotel, a Luxury Collection Hotel, Bangkok
Arrival Date: Jan XX, 2018
Departure Date: Jan XX, 2018 (1 night)
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 1
Room Type: Athenee Room
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: THB 7,353.31 (~221 USD)
Company Room Provider: booking.com
Competing rate: THB 4,692.00 (~141 USD) - (5,865.00 THB Less 20%)
Comments: It took them over 48 hours to respond, which actually worked in my favour, b/c the price was lower than the one I found.

Also, the email subject said "new enrollment" and I was wondering if it's on all responses or they're recognizing it's my first submission?
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Old Oct 31, 2017, 12:25 am
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Originally Posted by minimiso
Also, the email subject said "new enrollment" and I was wondering if it's on all responses or they're recognizing it's my first submission?
congratulations on your first BRG! New enrollment is, presumably, the standard e-mail subject for everyone else, too
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Old Oct 31, 2017, 1:13 am
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Originally Posted by remymartin
congratulations on your first BRG! New enrollment is, presumably, the standard e-mail subject for everyone else, too
Haha, thanks! I gotta start keeping my inflated sense of self in check.
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Old Oct 31, 2017, 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by remymartin
Looking at all these new figures and feeling frustrated I'm already anxious at 20h...
Denied at past 44 hours correctly citing "Classic room" was more expensive on OTA. I did not notice "Classic room" and picked the cheapest "twin or double room" the same OTA provided. Shenanigans but cannot fault spg here - rather the property and/or the OTA.
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Old Oct 31, 2017, 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by remymartin
Denied at past 44 hours correctly citing "Classic room" was more expensive on OTA. I did not notice "Classic room" and picked the cheapest "twin or double room" the same OTA provided. Shenanigans but cannot fault spg here - rather the property and/or the OTA.
Having stumbled upon the same hurdle, because haven't we all, I've been told to list the OTA room as 'standard' as indicative of an entry level room.
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Old Oct 31, 2017, 11:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Keyser
well over 48 hours since i sent in my last claim....no reply yet but luckily the 3rd party rate is not only available but has reduced by another $15....hopefully i'll get an approval before the rate disappears....
denied after 72 hours....rate was gone by the time they replied....
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 8:16 am
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Veterans here will probably not be surprised, but I have had four claims denied in the past fortnight, where the competing site reduced their rates hours before the denial message came through. It seems as if SPG, after receiving a valid claim, induces the OTA to increase their rates. Does this actually happen or is it just my imagination? If so, then we might as well forget about submitting any claims.
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 8:27 am
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Originally Posted by puchong
Veterans here will probably not be surprised, but I have had four claims denied in the past fortnight, where the competing site reduced their rates hours before the denial message came through. It seems as if SPG, after receiving a valid claim, induces the OTA to increase their rates. Does this actually happen or is it just my imagination? If so, then we might as well forget about submitting any claims.
And why would they do that? It is to SPG's benefit that they approve claims as the affected property has to pay financial penalties to SPG for each approved claim.

If SPG really wants to help properties regarding BRG claims, then all they have to do is follow Hyatt's footsteps...

Anyways, on a side note. I have submitted at least a dozen BRG claims the past 2-3 days, all approved within 20-36 hours
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by supatight80

Anyways, on a side note. I have submitted at least a dozen BRG claims the past 2-3 days, all approved within 20-36 hours
I haven't had any submission returned in under 48 hours in months... FWIW. In that time I've lost out on a couple of great deals sadly.
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Old Nov 2, 2017, 4:13 pm
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Hotel Name: Le Méridien Piccadilly
Arrival Date: December XX, 2017
Departure Date: December XX, 2017
Room Type: One Classic room, non-smoking including breakfast
Actual confirmed rate: 157.64 GBP per night includes VAT and breakfast (197.05 GBP less 20%)
Competing Website : otel.com

Hotel Name: W Barcelona
Arrival Date: December XX, 2017
Departure Date: December XX, 2017
Room Type: Cozy Room for two adults (room only)
Actual confirmed rate: 127.66 EUR.plus tax and vat, per night (159.57 EUR less 20%)
Competing Website : priceline.com
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Old Nov 3, 2017, 10:14 am
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denied after 48hrs as rate no longer available. disappointing.
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