*A First Class Routes Thread
#136
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NZ
Programs: NZ Gold, BA Gold, QF Silver, IHG Platinum Elite Ambassador, Accor Diamond
Posts: 1,048
CAI-NRT is shown as 2-class 777, which is the new 77W with the lie flat business class. Travelling MS in F is nowadays a good premium economy at best. I wonder how many people are caught out by the ignorance of travel agents who assume all classes are essentially equivalent across carriers.
#137
Join Date: Feb 2007
Programs: TK Elite Plus, QR Platinum, KL Gold
Posts: 200
I believe Thai has stopped (suspended?) first class service between BKK and PVG. I don't see any announcement but F in that segment isn't bookable any longer.
edit: just got off the phone with the reservation manager in LAX (nice guy!) and he confirmed BKK-PVG F being pulled. There's apparently discussions about redeploying the birds to Australia. First class service to Shanghai may recommence after March.
edit: just got off the phone with the reservation manager in LAX (nice guy!) and he confirmed BKK-PVG F being pulled. There's apparently discussions about redeploying the birds to Australia. First class service to Shanghai may recommence after March.
Last edited by L4ibsch; Nov 10, 2010 at 10:59 am
#138
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: MEX
Programs: Fallen UA Premier Silver and one-time 1K, AA EXP, DL steerage
Posts: 355
OZ other than all 747 variants, there is also one 3 class 777, with another one joining soon, used for daily ICN-FRA-ICN. The 3 class 777 will also do ICN-SIN-ICN 3 times weekly. Very soon ORD will be out of the F list, possible HKG too.
Currently ICN-HKG-ICN day flight sold as 3 class, only the night flight sold as 2 class.
Currently ICN-HKG-ICN day flight sold as 3 class, only the night flight sold as 2 class.
#141
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: DCA
Programs: Aeroplan Canada (25k), Hyatt (Globalist), Marriott (Platinum)
Posts: 193
YYZ-DUS looks like it has F service again this summer
According to KVS:
LH 472 DUS-YYZ 1,4,5,6,7 May 27-Oct 6
LH 473 YYZ-DUS 1,4,5,6,7 May 27-Oct 6
3 Class A330-300.
Service looks to start beginning of May with less frequencies.
According to KVS:
LH 472 DUS-YYZ 1,4,5,6,7 May 27-Oct 6
LH 473 YYZ-DUS 1,4,5,6,7 May 27-Oct 6
3 Class A330-300.
Service looks to start beginning of May with less frequencies.
#146
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: coastal Croatia
Programs: BAEC Gold, M&M Senator
Posts: 2,181
The first page lists various aircraft that do and do not have first class by airline. Under LH you have the 346 (A340-600) as not having first class; however, most of the 24 346's that LH has DO have First. Only a few don't. Many of the flights out of Munich that are listed under LH are with the 346. Unfortunately, there's no easy way to tell from the timetable, since LH doesn't differentiate according to Seatguru.
#148
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: ORD & MKE
Programs: Airlines: UA-CO, NH, AA, and DL Hotels: SPG, Accor, PC, and Marriott
Posts: 1,827
To name a few, CA also has F on:
PEK-ARN
PEK-CDG
PEK-CAN
PVG-FRA
PVG-MXP
Edit:
CA Aircraft selection with F:
744/74E
340
777 (777-200 ER, but in timetable 3 class is 777, 2 class is 772)
763
77W in Sept 2011 and onward.
PEK-ARN
PEK-CDG
PEK-CAN
PVG-FRA
PVG-MXP
Edit:
CA Aircraft selection with F:
744/74E
340
777 (777-200 ER, but in timetable 3 class is 777, 2 class is 772)
763
77W in Sept 2011 and onward.
Last edited by ande777emt; Apr 10, 2011 at 7:41 pm Reason: CA Aircraft selection
#149
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: ORD & MKE
Programs: Airlines: UA-CO, NH, AA, and DL Hotels: SPG, Accor, PC, and Marriott
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LH now has:
MUC-PUS via ICN
MUC-PVG
MUC-HKG
MUC-PEK
MUC-EWR
DUS-MIA
They no longer serve MUC-DEN
LX now serves ZRH-SFO
UA now serves:
ORD-BRU
ORD-GRU
LAX-PVG
In July UA will serve EWR-ZRH and EWR-BRU.
In September they will no longer have IAD-CDG with F.
MUC-PUS via ICN
MUC-PVG
MUC-HKG
MUC-PEK
MUC-EWR
DUS-MIA
They no longer serve MUC-DEN
LX now serves ZRH-SFO
UA now serves:
ORD-BRU
ORD-GRU
LAX-PVG
In July UA will serve EWR-ZRH and EWR-BRU.
In September they will no longer have IAD-CDG with F.
#150
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YYZ
Posts: 622
Hello all,
I am trying to create an itinerary that maximizes the first class routes... I am just playing around with the ANA tool to see availability and for some reason there is 0 F-class availability for any flights from EWR/JFK/IAD to ZRH... Why is this? I am looking at exactly 330 days out, so unless someone already booked the seats released today, I don't understand why nothing is showing up.
Any insight?
I am trying to create an itinerary that maximizes the first class routes... I am just playing around with the ANA tool to see availability and for some reason there is 0 F-class availability for any flights from EWR/JFK/IAD to ZRH... Why is this? I am looking at exactly 330 days out, so unless someone already booked the seats released today, I don't understand why nothing is showing up.
Any insight?