*A First Class Routes Thread
With the continual reduction in routes offering first class, it may be helpful to have a listing of routes which still have it. This may help some decide between business or first for awards, rtws, etc; as well as assist in route planning.
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Intercontinental and Transcontinental
Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class). Names used for First Class First Class - CA, LH, LX, NH, OZ, SQ, UA Royal First Class - TG Suites - SQ (A380 only) Only shorthaul/domestic first class on - US No first class on - AC, BD, JP, LO, MS, NZ, OS, OU, SA, SK, TK, TP Air China Aircraft type Only 747 (744 and 74E configs), 767 (763 config), 777 (777 and 77W config but not 772 config), A340. Routes Between Beijing and Frankfurt Guangzhou Houston London Heathrow Los Angeles Milan Moscow SVO New York JFK Paris CDG San Francisco Stockholm [missing lots] ANA Aircraft type Only international configured 747 and 777 variants (not domestic configurations). Routes Between Tokyo Haneda and Frankfurt Between Tokyo Narita and Chicago Houston London Heathrow Los Angeles New York JFK Paris San Francisco Asiana OZ F routes Aircraft type A380. All 747 variants. Some 777. Routes Between Seoul ICN and Frankfurt Los Angeles New York JFK (seasonal) note that Sydney has seasonal A380 but without first service on this route Lufthansa Aircraft type All 747 variants, A330-300, A340-300 (340 and 34P configurations but not 34V), A340-600 (some only), A380-800. Routes Between Frankfurt and Abu Dhabi Accra Almaty Astana Atlanta (seasonal) Bahrain Bangalore Bangkok Beijing Boston Buenos Aires Cairo Calgary (seasonal) Capetown (seasonal route) Caracas Chennai Chicago Dallas Delhi Denver Detroit Guangzhou Ho Chi Minh City Hong Kong Houston Jakarta Johannesburg Kolkata Kuala Lumpur Los Angeles Mexico City Miami Mumbai Nagoya Nanking New York JFK New York Newark Orlando Osaka Philadelphia (seasonal) San Francisco Sao Paulo Seattle Seoul Shanghai Singapore Tokyo Toronto (seasonal?) Vancouver (seasonal) Washington Dulles Between Munich and Beijing Boston Busan (via Seoul) Charlotte Chicago Delhi Dubai Hong Kong Los Angeles Newark New York JFK Montreal San Francisco Sao Paulo Seoul Shanghai Singapore Tel Aviv Tokyo Between Dusseldorf and Chicago Miami New York Newark Toronto (seasonal) Between Bangkok and Ho Chi Minh City Kuala Lumpur Between Singapore and Jakarta Singapore Airlines Aircraft type All 773, 77W and A380; and some 772 (few & on regional routes only) Routes Between Singapore and Auckland Bangalore Barcelona (via Milan & direct) Beijing Chennai Colombo Delhi Dubai Frankfurt Hong Kong Houston (via Moscow) Hyderabad Jakarta Karachi (via Lahore) Lahore London Los Angeles Manchester (via Munich) Manila Melbourne Milan Moscow Mumbai Munich New York JFK (via Frankfurt) Paris San Francisco Seoul Shanghai Sydney Tokyo HND Tokyo NRT Zurich Between Frankfurt and New York JFK Between Hong Kong and San Francisco Between Munich and Manchester Between Seoul and Los Angeles Between Tokyo NRT and Los Angeles Swiss Aircraft type A332, A333 and A343. Routes Between Geneva and New York JFK Between Zurich and Bangkok Boston Cairo Chicago Dar Es Salaam Delhi Dubai Hong Kong Jeddah Johannesburg Los Angeles Miami Montreal Mumbai Muscat Nairobi New York JFK Riyadh San Francisco Sao Paulo Shanghai Singapore Tokyo Between Dubai and Muscat Between Nairobi and Dar Es Salaam Thai Aircraft type 747, A340. Routes thread Between Bangkok and Beijing (747) Brisbane (A340) Dubai (A340) Frankfurt (747) Hong Kong (747) London (747) Madrid [via Rome] (747) Madrid (747) Munich (340) Paris (747) Rome (747) Shanghai (seasonal) Sydney (A340) Tokyo (340 + 747) Zurich (340) United Aircraft type 747, 772ER, 763 and ps configured 757. Routes Between Los Angeles and Bangkok Chicago Hong Kong London Heathrow Melbourne New York JFK Seoul ICN Shanghai Sydney Taipei Tokyo NRT Washington Dulles Between San Francisco and Bangkok Beijing Chicago Frankfurt Ho Chi Minh City Hong Kong London Heathrow Melbourne New York JFK Osaka KIX Paris Seoul ICN Shanghai Singapore Sydney Taipei Tokyo Washington Dulles Between Honolulu and Bangkok Hong Kong Osaka KIX Seoul ICN Singapore Taipei Tokyo NRT Between Seattle and Bangkok Hong Kong Seoul ICN Singapore Taipei Tokyo NRT Between Chicago and Amsterdam Bangkok Beijing Brussels Frankfurt Ho Chi Minh City Hong Kong London Heathrow Munich Osaka KIX Paris Sao Paulo Seoul Shanghai Singapore Taipei Tokyo NRT Between Washington Dulles and Amsterdam Beijing Brussels Buenos Aires Dubai Frankfurt Geneva Kuwait London Heathrow Moscow DME Munich Paris (ends September 2011) Rio De Janiero Rome Sao Paulo Tokyo NRT Zurich Between New York JFK and Los Angeles San Francisco Between Newark and Brussels Zurich Between Tokyo NRT and Seoul ICN Singapore This listing is badly out of date. Updated to post #192 . Please advise any errors or omissions. Thanks to all those who have contributed. zzz |
Reserved for future use
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Good idea!
You may want to add Varig and Swiss to the list of carriers as they offer F as well. |
Good idea!
SAA has F class on JNB-LHR and -IAD at least. |
ANA First class
From Tokyo/Narita to: -New York/JFK -Los Angeles -San Francisco -Washington -London/LHR -Paris/CDG -Frankfurt |
Great Idea Kiwi Flyer, This would be very helpful for people like myself with little experience on some of the *A airlines routes when planing an FRWSTAR trip.
Cheers:) |
I think Asiana is missing from the list.
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I didn't think Asiana had first class. That is the reason I omitted Asiana and several other *A airlines.
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Singapore Airlines:
Between Singapore and: Auckland Bandar Seri Begawan Bangalore Bangkok Beijing Cairo (via Dubai) Colombo Dubai Frankfurt Hong Kong Hyderabad Istanbul (via Dubai) Jakarta Karachi (via Lahore) Kuala Lumpur (well, technically ) Lahore London Los Angeles (via Tokyo) Manchester (via Zurich) Melbourne Moscow (via Dubai) Mumbai Nagoya New York JFK (via Frankfurt) Paris San Francisco (via Hong Kong) Seoul Shanghai Sydney Taipei Tokyo Zurich Between Dubai and: Cairo Istanbul Moscow Between Frankfurt and: New York JFK Between Hong Kong and: San Francisco Between Tokyo and: Los Angeles Between Zurich and: Manchester Not sure whether the flight between Karachi and Lahore can be booked in its own right. |
Originally Posted by jarino
Good idea!
SAA has F class on JNB-LHR and -IAD at least. |
You might want to delete US Airways from the list, although the A330s still have the First Class seats installed, they are sold as Envoy Class and open to full fare business class passengers or their highest status members.
They still have the domestic First Class of course, but I thought this thread was focussing on the "real" First Class. |
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
I didn't think Asiana had first class. That is the reason I omitted Asiana and several other *A airlines.
You can remove US from the list - they have Envoy only now on International. International First was dropped either two or three visits ago to Chapter 11. Domestic "First" is, as we all know, more of a Business Cabin with a fancy name ! :) Am not sure if their old F seats are still on their A330's or if they have been replaced by standard Envoy seating - I know for a long time the first row (old F) on their A330's was sold as part of Envoy and well worth trying to nab on the seat map ;) To further your workload, could you maybe start another similar thread for Business? Not so much for who operates it, but to keep a bluddy track of all the namby pamby marketing names they all use?!?!?! :) Executive First, Amadeus, Envoy, Connoisseur (an old one I know), Top, Royal Executive, Avant, Raffles etc etc etc are all the various names for Business. Hard to keep up with who has who reading threads with a generic comment such as "Top has Espresso machine service" type of thing. In that vein for the current thread, it may be required to know that all the carriers above call F "First Class" except for TG which has Royal First Class. |
Asiana has a first class or at least they call it first class. Here is the link.
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Swiss
From their website so not 100% sure
A343 Bangkok-Singapur Tel Aviv (Tagesflug) Tokio Los Angeles Hong Kong Johannesburg Kairo Sao Paulo New York / JFK |
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