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Old May 8, 2013 | 8:48 pm
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TK changing to have K as a biz fare, with J becoming an upgrade fare
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Old May 13, 2014 | 1:40 pm
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Air Canada has introduced a new Premium Economy class on a few selected routes. Books into N, E, and O classes.
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Old May 30, 2014 | 10:35 am
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HI, I am confused about this chart. Does a United ticket bought using the T code but part flying on LH (Lufthansa BOM-FRA and FRA-ORD) acrrue miles on the Mileageplus program for the LH segments also? Many thanks for any response!
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Old May 30, 2014 | 4:22 pm
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T code earns 100% on UA MP, as long as none of the travel is exclusively within Europe

While the booking code from UA generally matches up with the code from LH, you generally want to check the booking code on the operating carrier. You earn RDMs and PDMs regardless of where you booked the tickets but PQDs are only earned if you bouth the ticket through UA
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 9:36 am
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Question IAD-IST award upgrade on LH metal through UA alliance desk

Called United Star Alliance Desk to book a trip:
  1. IAD-IST
  2. on Y/B/M economy to be able to use United miles to upgrade to business class
  3. on LH metal to try LH's business class product

When I use KVS tool, if I do a search, I (think) I can see availability for upgrade. But when the UA agent submits for upgrades, it comes back as not available.

I can see that there is P class available on LH 417. And I (think) as long as there is P class on a flight, I should be able to get my Y/B/M upgraded to P.

Can someone confirm/deny this assumption?

Also, what is the best method to search for upgradeable economy (to Business) on LH metal?

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.0/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
Code:
IAD  Washington Dulles Intl DC US [KIAD]
FRA  Frankfurt Intl DE [EDDF]
IST  Istanbul Metro / Ataturk TR = IST SAW [LTBA]
SAT  23 Aug 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------
UA/LH      8833    IAD   15:25     FRA   05:35 +1  346      J4 C4 D4 Z4 P4 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L0 K0
 -> UA/TK  7776    FRA   07:25 +1  IST   11:25 +1  320      J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L0 K0 G4
LH         417     IAD   15:25     FRA   05:35 +1  346      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
 -> TK     1598    FRA   07:25 +1  IST   11:25 +1  320      C5 D5 K4 J4 I0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P9 W9 X9 N9 G0
LH         417     IAD   15:25     FRA   05:35 +1  346      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P7 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0
 -> LH     1298    FRA   09:10 +1  IST   13:00 +1  321      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P7 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0
UA/LH      8833    IAD   15:25     FRA   05:35 +1  346      J4 C4 D4 Z4 P0 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 L0 K0
 -> UA/LH  9034    FRA   09:10 +1  IST   13:00 +1  321      J4 C4 D4 Z4 P0 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 L0 K0
UA         989     IAD   17:15     FRA   07:20 +1  777      F2 A2 J4 C4 D4 Z4 P0 Y4 B4 M4 E9 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0
 -> UA/LH  9034    FRA   09:10 +1  IST   13:00 +1  321      J4 C4 D4 Z4 P0 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 L0 K0
LH/UA      9051    IAD   17:15     FRA   07:20 +1  777      F0 A0 J4 C4 D4 Z4 P4 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4
 -> LH     1298    FRA   09:10 +1  IST   13:00 +1  321      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
UA         989     IAD   17:15     FRA   07:20 +1  777      F1 A1 J4 C4 D4 Z4 P4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4 G0 N0
 -> UA/TK  7773    FRA   11:45 +1  IST   15:45 +1  321      J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4 G0
LH         419     IAD   18:10     FRA   08:10 +1  74H      F7 A3 J9 C9 D0 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
 -> LH     1298    FRA   09:10 +1  IST   13:00 +1  321      J9 C9 D0 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
UA/LH      8826    IAD   18:10     FRA   08:10 +1  74H      F4 A0 J4 C4 D4 Z0 P0 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 L0 K0
 -> UA/LH  9034    FRA   09:10 +1  IST   13:00 +1  321      J4 C4 D4 Z0 P0 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 L0 K0
UA/LH      8826    IAD   18:10     FRA   08:10 +1  74H      F4 A0 J4 C4 D4 Z0 P0 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 L0 K0
 -> UA/TK  7773    FRA   11:45 +1  IST   15:45 +1  321      J4 C4 D4 Z0 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 L0 K0 G4
UA         932     IAD   22:00     FRA   12:00 +1  777      F2 A2 J4 C4 D4 Z4 P0 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0
 -> UA/LH  9126    FRA   13:00 +1  IST   16:50 +1  321      J4 C4 D4 Z4 P0 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T0 L0 K0
LH/UA      9253    IAD   22:00     FRA   12:00 +1  777      F0 A0 J4 C4 D4 Z4 P4 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4
 -> LH     1300    FRA   13:00 +1  IST   16:50 +1  321      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 10:49 pm
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Originally Posted by hansooloo
Called United Star Alliance Desk to book a trip:
  1. IAD-IST
  2. on Y/B/M economy to be able to use United miles to upgrade to business class
  3. on LH metal to try LH's business class product
When I use KVS tool, if I do a search, I (think) I can see availability for upgrade. But when the UA agent submits for upgrades, it comes back as not available.

I can see that there is P class available on LH 417. And I (think) as long as there is P class on a flight, I should be able to get my Y/B/M upgraded to P.
LH Upgrade Booking Class is I (AKA CS), not P:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#LH

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.1/Diamond - Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:
IAD  Washington Dulles Intl DC US [KIAD]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
SAT  23 Aug 2014 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH         417     IAD   15:25     FRA   05:35 +1  346  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
UA         989     IAD   17:15     FRA   07:20 +1  777  0   FS-  CS-  YS-
LH         419     IAD   18:10     FRA   08:10 +1  74H  0   FS-  CS-  YS-
UA         932     IAD   22:00     FRA   12:00 +1  777  0   FS-  CS-  YS+
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 3:52 am
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*A K class

Hi - booking a ticket on United in K class. One way flight is on United and return is on Lufthansa.
I've looked at several *A earning tables and it seems that some earn partial/full miles on United but seems that no one earns K class on Lufthansa.
Is this correct?
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 4:03 am
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jonj, miles in MP, M&M, or a different program?
You also need to see what fare class the return ticket is on. It may be K on UA, but the operating carrier is what matters, so it matters how LH ticketed the flight.

If the ticket is indeed K on LH, and you are looking to earn MP miles, then you are correct - it will earn no miles.

But you should search the UA forum, as I believe sometimes K on UA converted to T on LH which earns 100% RDMs and PQMs as long as it's not intra-Europe only.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 4:08 am
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Hi Josh - thanks for the quick response. I looked at A3, M&M and UA and all said nothing for K. The ticket is in the process of being ticketed and perhaps when it comes through from LH it will show a different fare class.

Thanks again.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 5:31 am
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According to the M&M calculator, a flight operated by LH in K class would earn 963 miles. So it really depends on which program you're trying to earn in.
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 2:55 am
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K class on LH -- mileage earning on any airline?

Flying k class on LH and believe not eligible for mileage on UA or Aegean. Is it on any other Star carrier? AC?

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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 9:52 am
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SAS will credit 25% for LH K, at least according to the earning chart: http://www.sas.se/eurobonus/tjana-po...lag/lufthansa/

Aeroplan will not credit any miles for LH K.
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by fassy
SAS will credit 25% for LH K, at least according to the earning chart: http://www.sas.se/eurobonus/tjana-po...lag/lufthansa/

Aeroplan will not credit any miles for LH K.
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How about on LH or TK?
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 10:16 am
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LH M&M: 25% -> http://www.miles-and-more.com/online...l=en&cid=18002

TK M&S: 0% -> http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-in...able-lufthansa
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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 10:46 am
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Thx!

Also assume that get full mileage credit if United flight number in K even if operated by LH
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