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henry999 Feb 26, 2005 5:05 am


Originally Posted by WearyBizTrvlr
I've put up an updated version of the spreadsheet, incorporating the latest fares from retrav1K and thefareguru.

Sorry, is it just me or is this latest one 'broken' somehow? I'm looking at the *A sheet. Unlike the previous version(s), when I click on any of the basis-of-comparison cells (i.e., C2, C3, C4 or C5) I don't get the up-down arrows in column D to allow changing the criterion. This still works for me in the 12 Jan version but not the latest.

cheers,

Henry

WearyBizTrvlr Feb 26, 2005 12:18 pm

Another update
 

Originally Posted by henry999
Sorry, is it just me or is this latest one 'broken' somehow? I'm looking at the *A sheet. Unlike the previous version(s), when I click on any of the basis-of-comparison cells (i.e., C2, C3, C4 or C5) I don't get the up-down arrows in column D to allow changing the criterion. This still works for me in the 12 Jan version but not the latest.

There have been no changes to that part of the spreadsheet, and it works for me. I fear I have no idea what the problem is...

In any case, there's a fresh update . Thanks to a fantastic effort by thefareguru all Star Alliance fares have been updated. Compared to v1.5 of 2-Feb-05 the biggest changes are (in local currency):

Fiji: C up 15 to 20%, F up 12 to 15%

Taiwan, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, India, China, Hong Kong, Latvia, Switzerland, Canada, Euro-Area (some up 9%), Poland: up 5% for C & F

South Africa: C & F up 15%

UK: up 10 to 14% for C & F

Singapore: down 5% across the board

New Zealand, Denmark, Malaysia, Korea: up 8% for C & F

You can see these changes on the hidden SAData sheet if you're interested in poking beneath the surface.

Exchange rates have been updated too.

Spider Feb 26, 2005 2:26 pm

For some reason I cannot see Star Alliance updated fares. Everything else is fine but not *A. It has some jibberish in every cell but "currency", "class", "miles" etc. No countries or prices though. :(

WearyBizTrvlr Feb 26, 2005 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by Spider
For some reason I cannot see Star Alliance updated fares. Everything else is fine but not *A. It has some jibberish in every cell but "currency", "class", "miles" etc. No countries or prices though. :(

How strange... I just downloaded it again to make sure, but everything seems fine here. Is anybody else having problems? Please let me know. Spider, what version of Excel are you using?

Spider Feb 26, 2005 3:23 pm

I use Excel that comes with XP-SP2. I had no problems reading your info a few days ago but now there's only jibberish as far as Star Alliance is concerned. Other alliances I can see fine. Let's see what others say about this. Maybe it's just my PC?

henry999 Feb 26, 2005 11:09 pm


Originally Posted by WearyBizTrvlr
How strange... I just downloaded it again to make sure, but everything seems fine here. Is anybody else having problems? Please let me know. Spider, what version of Excel are you using?

Like Spider, the *A sheet (only) displays no information for me (OneWorld and SkyTeam have data). The list of countries says #VALUE! while the lists of fares all say #N/A. I am using Excel v. X for Macintosh, Service Release 1. Also, the D2-D5 change arrows still don't appear--in any of the three sheets. However...the January version still works perfectly.

cheers,

Henry

henry999 Feb 26, 2005 11:35 pm


Originally Posted by WearyBizTrvlr
You can see these changes on the hidden SAData sheet if you're interested in poking beneath the surface.

First let me say that I am still completely in awe of Excel. I have never had reason to master it and consequently use maybe 10% of its power. Nevertheless, following your suggestion I decided to have a poke.

In the latest version, I found that some cells in the SAData sheet are linked to cells in the SATemp sheet. However, there are cells in the SATemp sheet that are #VALUE! and #N/A. Also, interestingly, in the January version (which works fine for me) there _is no_ SATemp sheet.

cheers,

Henry

WearyBizTrvlr Feb 27, 2005 3:46 am

The good news is that I've been able to reproduce the lack of pop-down boxes on my Mac. It was one of those utterly ridiculous problems that had me tearing out my hair, as everything seemed just fine. Having wasted several hours trying to fix it, I had the luminous idea to go to Microsoft's site and see if it had anything to say. It did.

All I can say is AAAARGH.

Sometimes I really do hate Excel. In any case, the trick seems to be to unfreeze the panes. This'll bring the pop-downs back. Go to the Window menu, then Unfreeze Panes.

As for the garbled *A sheet, I have not been able to reproduce that. I'll put up a fresh version with the panes unfrozen anyway, but perhaps a redownload will fix it. Both my PC and Mac versions display the data accurately.

The SATemp sheet should contain a few #N/As (Egypt for instance). I added that sheet for the latest version to make the import of the fare data easier. You may want to force a recalc (F9 on PC, cmd+= on a Mac). Perhaps that'll help.

henry999 Feb 27, 2005 8:02 am


Originally Posted by WearyBizTrvlr
The good news is...

First of all, thanks again for your attention to this and the great benefit this provides to the community.

Yes, the drop-downs now work. But the data cells are still full of #VALUE! and #N/A, even after a forced re-calc.

cheers,

Henry

flamboyant 1 Feb 27, 2005 8:56 am

No values in Star Alliance fare table. Dear WearyBizTrvlr, Please put up a new version. For yet another download of my favourite Excel Sheet

Kiwi Flyer Feb 27, 2005 10:04 am

Thanks WearyBizTrvlr and those who contribute the data ^^


Thanks to a fantastic effort by thefareguru all Star Alliance fares have been updated. Compared to v1.5 of 2-Feb-05 the biggest changes are (in local currency):

Fiji: C up 15 to 20%, F up 12 to 15%

Taiwan, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, India, China, Hong Kong, Latvia, Switzerland, Canada, Euro-Area (some up 9%), Poland: up 5% for C & F

South Africa: C & F up 15%

UK: up 10 to 14% for C & F

Singapore: down 5% across the board

New Zealand, Denmark, Malaysia, Korea: up 8% for C & F
:(


I dont see the #N/A or #Value that others are seeing. Could it be that need add-ins for Analysis ToolPak and Analysis ToolPak - VBA? (Tools menu, Add-Ins near the bottom, the analysis add-ins are the top 2 in the pop-up.)

flamboyant 1 Feb 27, 2005 10:27 am

hmm, added the add-ins Kiwi mentioned and a few others. Doesn't help, still no values in the Star part of the Spreadsheet.

Kiwi Flyer Feb 27, 2005 10:46 am

Do you have Excel set to manual calc? (check under Tools menu, Options, then calculation tab)

WearyBizTrvlr Feb 27, 2005 11:57 am

Most peculiar
 
Very strange. I've tested the spreadsheet by downloading it on three different machines with three different versions of Excel (inlcuding a Mac), and it all works just fine. Excel on my office PC takes several minutes to launch because of all the add-ins, so that's a pretty screwed up version of Excel there, however there should be no need for any add-ins. I haven't made any significant changes to the sheet, nor have I used any hitherto unused functions. Ah, the mysteries of Excel... :confused:

Since I can't reproduce the problem, I'll need a bit of help debugging this. First of all, unhide the columns to the right in the Star Alliance sheet. Do you see errors (#N/A or #VALUE) in the AO and AP columns? In AW8:BE8?

In the SAData sheet, any errors in columns S, W or X? Errors in the block I7:Q38? The big block of data in columns B:E?

Perhaps it's easier if you PM me or send me an email so as not to clutter up this thread too much.

WearyBizTrvlr Feb 28, 2005 12:49 pm

Problem solved!
 
Finally! The problem has been spotted by henry999, who noticed that it was related to decimal separators. I always use US number formats, but Excel pulls the separators (quite rightly) out of the system locale. If you had your locale set to using anything but decimal points the text-conversion function VALUE would not work. I needed that to convert the latest batch of fare data, so hence the problem.

You can download v1.6.2 at the usual location:

RTW Fare Spreadsheet


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