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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 9:45 am
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by CMK10
I seem to be about the only FTer who liked their lounge at BCN
Not a great one, but still OK.

A few years ago I had the vision to join M&M instead of Spanair Plus, but with my Silver elite I could only access the lounge when flying LX, not any other *A airline or even JK, something which really pissed me off.

Being the only *A one in Barcelona. I wonder who's going to handle it now.


Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter
i.e. a typical Spanish airline
As a Spaniard, I'm sad to admit you're right. I'd go as far as to say, though, that Vueling is a good LCC, but since IB got behind it after the merger with Clickair, their hands have been tied on many occasions.


Originally Posted by santarosaflyer
But still, they had great one-way prices and their service were several steps above Ryanair.
I'll miss them, especially on routes like BCN-ALG. I've flown to Algeria several times lately, and the only other carrier operating this route is Air Algrie, which has to be the worst airline I've flown with! (and accordingly to my Flight Memory, there are 84 other companies I can compare them to...).


Originally Posted by santarosaflyer
Doubtful that LH would waste money on a LH Espana.
I had also thought about the possibility of LH Espaa, but LH already refused buying JK some time ago, and LH Italia didn't turn out to be a great idea. But with over 200k Germans living in Spain, and many more travelling to Spain (and especially Majorca) on a regular basis, I guess that LH should try to make the most of the JK demise and the void that *A has in Spain now. They should also try to regain some of the customers that AB has taken from them.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter
i.e. a typical Spanish airline

really, how many airlines in the garlic-belt are well-managed?
bankruptcy and reconstruction is the way forward.
not only for airlines...
As opposed to well-managed BA, I suppose...
What killed JK was the AVE high-speed train. Cheaper, faster and less stressful. Luckily for BA domestic operations, we have such a crap railway service.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 10:47 pm
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Thank goodness!! I had been considering an award ticket that would include Spanair just a bit ago!

Hope all the employees, etc. land on their feet as much as possible.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 11:30 pm
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Looks like SAS saw this coming when they divested much of their stake in 2009. From what I read talks with Qatar were unsuccessful prompting the immediate shutdown. !Que lastima!
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 11:34 pm
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Originally Posted by 100countrygoal
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Hope all the employees, etc. land on their feet as much as possible.
They probably won't. Economically this is the worst I've seen Spain. It's going to be a miracle for the Rajoy gov't to dig out of this hole the Socialists left the country in.

Spanair has only been able to rebook on other carriers 1/3 of the 22,000 passengers trying to get where they need to be.

Not good.
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 1:15 am
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Originally Posted by asterion
Luckily for BA domestic operations, we have such a crap railway service.
....plus of course in the UK, the train will usually be considerably more expensive than the plane anyway!!

Work that one out!
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 1:35 am
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Originally Posted by zigzagg900
Looks like SAS saw this coming when they divested much of their stake in 2009.
Yes, I thought that bit seemed quite clever until it was pointed out to me in the SK forum that they sold 80% of the stock for 1!
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 2:10 am
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Originally Posted by Passmethesickbag
Yes, I thought that bit seemed quite clever until it was pointed out to me in the SK forum that they sold 80% of the stock for 1!
Still better than pumping yet more money in the airline and still losing your investment at the end of the day.
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 2:17 am
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Originally Posted by asterion
What killed JK was the AVE high-speed train. Cheaper, faster and less stressful.
This is a myth that refuses to die. The AVE costs about twice as much as air travel between Barcelona and Madrid.

It is also not faster - at best same door to door time. The AVE in BCN leaves from Sants. Depending where in the city you live, it's not a whole lot slower to get to the airport (especially by taxi).

Finally, if you have anything more than a carry-on bag, the AVE is lot more cumbersome.

Overall more comfortable and less stressful? Sure. But neither cheaper nor faster.
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 2:29 am
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Originally Posted by Mauricio23
This is a myth that refuses to die.
+1

If it was true, IB should also be bankrupted.

Last but not least, the shuttle Bcn-Mad represented probably less than 5% of JK flights.
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 3:16 am
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Here they go my Spanair Star Point, A* legs and all the boarding passes and passenger receipts I sent to the customer service center in Palma last week :-(

And I thought Spanair Star would be my fast solution to become *G ...

Any idea if *A offers a solution for that?
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 6:12 am
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Originally Posted by X2921294H
Here they go my Spanair Star Point, A* legs and all the boarding passes and passenger receipts I sent to the customer service center in Palma last week :-(

And I thought Spanair Star would be my fast solution to become *G ...

Any idea if *A offers a solution for that?
A3, OZ, TK. Take your pick
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 7:57 am
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The *A lounges in BCN, MAD etc. were operated by Spanair, does anyone
know if this will affect them as well?

To make things worse for people stranded somewhere in Spain, Iberia pilots
will strike tomorrow.
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 8:22 am
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I wonder how this will affect SQ's fifth-freedom operation between BCN and GRU. I seem to recall reading that approval for this route was dependent on code-sharing with Spanair. Is there any truth in that?
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