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kiwiandrew Feb 7, 2012 1:01 pm


Originally Posted by tobegold (Post 17969676)
Well, then Star Alliance should force all members to give full mileage on all fares.
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Why should someone who paid a $200 economy fare get the same mileage credited as someone who paid a $1000 economy fare on the same aircraft for the same route, same dates? I don't get your logic. :confused:

Xiaotung Feb 7, 2012 6:23 pm


Originally Posted by kiwiandrew (Post 17970006)
Why should someone who paid a $200 economy fare get the same mileage credited as someone who paid a $1000 economy fare on the same aircraft for the same route, same dates? I don't get your logic. :confused:

What I hope to see is all *A members give at least some miles on those discounted fares. Even 20% is better than nothing.

rurouni212 Feb 7, 2012 8:22 pm


Originally Posted by Xiaotung (Post 17972074)
What I hope to see is all *A members give at least some miles on those discounted fares. Even 20% is better than nothing.

Probably wishful thinking at best.

dvs7310 Feb 8, 2012 5:06 am

This is a common problem in Asia, regardless of alliance. If you go to Expedia, Orbitz, or whatever your favorite booking site is and search out almost any non-peak dates in advance between Asian cities, the mileage earning on most of the fares you can "easily buy" is somewhere between zero and crap. (I mean without going out of your way with a T/A or Refundable ticket).

Personally I wouldn't mind a "buy up" option to 100% for people who care about the miles but buy in advance and don't need a refundable or non-restricted ticket.

username Feb 9, 2012 9:21 pm

Asian airlines can still figure miles awarded as a cost and essentially award it as a benefit of higher fares. Even Air Canada does not award miles for the lowest fares. US airlines can't do it probably because of competition.

So, newer planes, better amenitites, better meals, better service (although at lower labor cost) - something is got to give, right?

The Chinese have a saying "The Wool Comes from the Sheep" - basically means the buyer wants more, then the buyer pays more.

tobegold Feb 10, 2012 8:29 pm


Originally Posted by kiwiandrew (Post 17970006)
Why should someone who paid a $200 economy fare get the same mileage credited as someone who paid a $1000 economy fare on the same aircraft for the same route, same dates? I don't get your logic. :confused:

If you read my entire quote you would see that is not what I was saying. The original comment to which I replied was demanding that fares get 100% mileage on EVA as a condition on joining *A. I was pointing out that most other arilines in *A do not give 100% mileage on all fares.

timfountain Feb 11, 2012 11:55 am


Originally Posted by kiwiandrew (Post 17970006)
Why should someone who paid a $200 economy fare get the same mileage credited as someone who paid a $1000 economy fare on the same aircraft for the same route, same dates? I don't get your logic. :confused:

Well, for a start they traveled the same number of miles.... I don't have a problem with high ticket classes earning accelerated miles, but why should a cheaper ticket earn less miles than traveled?

LAX Feb 11, 2012 2:34 pm


Originally Posted by timfountain (Post 17995365)
Well, for a start they traveled the same number of miles.... I don't have a problem with high ticket classes earning accelerated miles, but why should a cheaper ticket earn less miles than traveled?

That's because the cheaper tickets only cover the transport of pax from point A to point B & related services. Frequent flyer mile is essentially a "bonus" to entice loyalty & has nothing to do with actual miles traveled.

LAX

AA_EXP09 Feb 11, 2012 2:39 pm


Originally Posted by username (Post 17986704)
Asian airlines can still figure miles awarded as a cost and essentially award it as a benefit of higher fares. Even Air Canada does not award miles for the lowest fares. US airlines can't do it probably because of competition.

So, newer planes, better amenitites, better meals, better service (although at lower labor cost) - something is got to give, right?

The Chinese have a saying "The Wool Comes from the Sheep" - basically means the buyer wants more, then the buyer pays more.

Yes, they do on TATL flights.

AA_EXP09 Feb 11, 2012 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 17974373)
This is a common problem in Asia, regardless of alliance. If you go to Expedia, Orbitz, or whatever your favorite booking site is and search out almost any non-peak dates in advance between Asian cities, the mileage earning on most of the fares you can "easily buy" is somewhere between zero and crap. (I mean without going out of your way with a T/A or Refundable ticket).

Personally I wouldn't mind a "buy up" option to 100% for people who care about the miles but buy in advance and don't need a refundable or non-restricted ticket.

I myself hate the CX N fares to MNL.

kiwiandrew Feb 12, 2012 11:31 am


Originally Posted by tobegold (Post 17992535)
If you read my entire quote you would see that is not what I was saying. The original comment to which I replied was demanding that fares get 100% mileage on EVA as a condition on joining *A. I was pointing out that most other arilines in *A do not give 100% mileage on all fares.

My apologies, you are quite right, I did misread your post.

UA Fan Feb 18, 2012 12:12 am

I hope they change the logo by then, looks so old.

username Feb 19, 2012 12:56 pm


Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 18038049)
I hope they change the logo by then, looks so old.

I doubt it. That logo is associated with the parent company and that is how they like it. Y.F. Chang likes things a certain way - green and squarish - like Evergreen Marine's containers. The "open globe" means limitless possibilities.

If you think about it, having a star in the logo sort of works for a Star Alliance carrier.

T.A.Music Feb 21, 2012 10:44 pm

i'm pretty sure that Mr. Chang not gonna change his mind regarding the logo for eva.

cchuang1980 Mar 26, 2012 11:03 am

According to this report, BR is expecting to sign a contract for joining *A on Mar 29th.
http://www.investor.com.tw/onlineNew...14201203260053


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