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A number of threads have been started with members asking for guidance on which mileage programme they should join. In order to help users I have started this thread to allow people to post their requests for information here and to allow people to offer assistance.

For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Silver, M&M Senator etc)
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.)
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc)
(7) Preferred Airlines
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)


GENERAL INFORMATION:


If you fly less than 50k miles per year: it is almost guaranteed that your choice will be between Aegean Airlines, Turkish Airlines, and Asiana Airlines. Please look up these airlines' frequent flier programs, and make a decision as to which best suits your needs.

Some considerations to take into account:

Airlines tend to treat members of their own frequent flier program better than members of other frequent flier programs. If you fly one of these airlines, it is recommended that you choose that airline.

Some airlines have better earning/redemption charts for your pattern. For example, if you fly on cheap fares on a certain airline often, Turkish might give you miles for it, while Aegean might not. However, Turkish Airlines might charge much more for the redemption that you want to make than Aegean.

Asiana Airlines offers lifetime Star Alliance Gold for 500k miles over life. The other 2 airlines do not offer this benefit.

Asiana Airlines has a credit card in the USA and some other countries. If you are interested in credit cards, check to make sure that the program that you join has a credit card in your country.
If you still aren't sure which frequent flyer program is for you after looking these up, feel free to ask on this thread.
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 5:57 pm
  #721  
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SAT / MAA / BOM
Programs: CO Plat; UA 1K; EK Gold
Posts: 5,110
Originally Posted by IlliniRon
I have not seen much value in being a 1k flyer on United yet, maybe I will someday. United and Continental seem to offer me few upgrades as 1k member, and miles redemption is quite limited, even for 1k, unless I need to do some special negotiating or something. I'm wondering if I should move to SQ's FF program so at least I can go on vacation to Bali or something. I think part of the lack of upgrade problem is there must be a lot of 1k members for UA located near SFO. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.
Yes, domestic upgrades on premium routes such as EWR/IAD/ORD will be real tough for a 1K in SFO, unless you are on Y/B fares.
From 2012 year, any elite on a Y/B fare will overtake a 1K on a cheap fare.

Do not choose SQ's program. Its one of the worst in the alliance.

Suggest you go to LH Miles and More. You will get 200% EQM's for your business class tickets. 100K miles is Star Gold (LH Senator).

LH MM program members can redeem awards on the prohibited SQ aircrafts. LH MM SEN/HON members can request LH A380 First Class awards. These are some nice perks.

You might luck out with some op-ups if you fly LH for your TATL segments (C to F).
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 9:04 pm
  #722  
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Originally Posted by snod08
If you dont care about status, stick to US Airways....the taxes ./ surcharges will be low.
If you care about status, go to Aegean (A3) or Turkish (TK)....taxes / surcharges will NOT be low.
Thanks. Just curious, why US over UA?
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 9:44 pm
  #723  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Half Moon Bay, CA
Programs: United 1k
Posts: 8
Originally Posted by snod08
Yes, domestic upgrades on premium routes such as EWR/IAD/ORD will be real tough for a 1K in SFO, unless you are on Y/B fares.
From 2012 year, any elite on a Y/B fare will overtake a 1K on a cheap fare.

Do not choose SQ's program. Its one of the worst in the alliance.

Suggest you go to LH Miles and More. You will get 200% EQM's for your business class tickets. 100K miles is Star Gold (LH Senator).

LH MM program members can redeem awards on the prohibited SQ aircrafts. LH MM SEN/HON members can request LH A380 First Class awards. These are some nice perks.

You might luck out with some op-ups if you fly LH for your TATL segments (C to F).
That's some very interesting information, so I'll check out MM program and maybe switch over.
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 11:44 pm
  #724  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 72
Originally Posted by Markie
For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:
(1) What is your home airport?
LAX

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
I usually book whatever is cheapest. Looking at past boarding pass, I book mostly Y or K.

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?
<25K, but occasionally 25K-50K.

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it?
I do not.

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP?
In order of importance
1. Good award redemption rates
2. Frequent upgrades on travel
3. Free Lounge access

(6) Which routes do you fly most often
Transpacific: BKK, HKG, and SIN

(7) Preferred Airlines
None really. Maybe Cathay due to convenience of multiple stops of my trip. Typically LAX -> BKK -> HKG -> LAX

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure?
Pleasure.

I would be getting miles mostly through spending and sign-up bonuses like Chase Sapphire cards.

The route I fly most often would be:

LAX -> BKK -> HKG -> LAX

or

LAX -> SIN -> BKK -> LAX

or

LAX -> SIN -> LAX
LAX -> HKG -> LAX
LAX -> BKK -> LAX


What's your recommendation?
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 2:39 am
  #725  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Programs: BA
Posts: 199
(1) What is your home airport? MAN

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Discount economy

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 30-40K

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? BD*G

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Lounge access, upgrades would be nice

(6) Which routes do you fly most often Transatlantic MAN-ORD

(7) Preferred Airlines none really, but mostly fly united

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Both, but more pleasure


I'm needing to find another FF program with diamond club inevitably closing in the coming months. I'm really not sure what to do: I liked the low threshold for gold with diamond club and, while I fly united a lot, I have little chance of making *G on them. I've never really got into the hang of using my miles, though (something which probably sounds sacrilegious to most of you here!).

I've toyed with the idea of joining A3, since I would like to keep my status with *A when we get absorbed into oneworld, but I'm not sure jumping into a small airline's program is best for the long term.

Anyway, any advice would be much appreciated.
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 4:23 am
  #726  
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SAT / MAA / BOM
Programs: CO Plat; UA 1K; EK Gold
Posts: 5,110
Originally Posted by AirD0c
Thanks. Just curious, why US over UA?
In the past year or so, redeeming miles seem to be easier on US than UA.
(especially for non-status folks).
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 4:25 am
  #727  
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Programs: CO Plat; UA 1K; EK Gold
Posts: 5,110
Originally Posted by casinoclub
(1) What is your home airport?
LAX

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
I usually book whatever is cheapest. Looking at past boarding pass, I book mostly Y or K.

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?
<25K, but occasionally 25K-50K.

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it?
I do not.

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP?
In order of importance
1. Good award redemption rates
2. Frequent upgrades on travel
3. Free Lounge access

(6) Which routes do you fly most often
Transpacific: BKK, HKG, and SIN

(7) Preferred Airlines
None really. Maybe Cathay due to convenience of multiple stops of my trip. Typically LAX -> BKK -> HKG -> LAX

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure?
Pleasure.

I would be getting miles mostly through spending and sign-up bonuses like Chase Sapphire cards.

The route I fly most often would be:

LAX -> BKK -> HKG -> LAX

or

LAX -> SIN -> BKK -> LAX

or

LAX -> SIN -> LAX
LAX -> HKG -> LAX
LAX -> BKK -> LAX


What's your recommendation?
With 25K miles per year or so...its difficult to expect frequent upgrades.
However, in the rare event, there may be operational upgrades.

For your flying pattern, I suggest you give your loyalty to TG (Thai; Star Alliance) or CX (Cathay, OneWorld).
Then, you at least stand a shot at some operational upgrades.
With Thai, you will reach Star Silver with 25K. This means almost nothing in the Star Alliance. You need 50K with TG for Star Gold, which gets you lounge access.

If lounge access is much more important, then choose Aegean Airlines (A3).
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 4:27 am
  #728  
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Posts: 5,110
Originally Posted by cristo
(1) What is your home airport? MAN

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Discount economy

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 30-40K

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? BD*G

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Lounge access, upgrades would be nice

(6) Which routes do you fly most often Transatlantic MAN-ORD

(7) Preferred Airlines none really, but mostly fly united

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Both, but more pleasure


I'm needing to find another FF program with diamond club inevitably closing in the coming months. I'm really not sure what to do: I liked the low threshold for gold with diamond club and, while I fly united a lot, I have little chance of making *G on them. I've never really got into the hang of using my miles, though (something which probably sounds sacrilegious to most of you here!).

I've toyed with the idea of joining A3, since I would like to keep my status with *A when we get absorbed into oneworld, but I'm not sure jumping into a small airline's program is best for the long term.

Anyway, any advice would be much appreciated.
Other airlines with lower threshold are Turkish and Asiana.
Cheap fares almost earn nothing on Asiana.
I would suggest reading through Turkish's loyalty program and see if the fares you buy will earn miles on them.

For low mileage flyers, yes Aegean is the fastest way to Star Gold.
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 9:39 am
  #729  
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Originally Posted by snod08
In the past year or so, redeeming miles seem to be easier on US than UA.
(especially for non-status folks).
Interesting. I was under the impression that redemption was better on UA/CO based on reports like these:

http://www.smartertravel.com/airfare...tml?id=8977054

http://thepointsguy.com/2011/10/my-r...lyer-programs/

But if real user experiences are favoring US that could tip me to dividend miles...
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 12:06 pm
  #730  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Cambodia
Programs: UA MP Gold
Posts: 193
(1) home airport? TXL/BER
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? C
(3) miles per year? 25 - 35K
(4) status? UA Premier
(5) most important in a FFP? Reliable mileage accrual & a good bonus even at lower level; I know I don't fly enough for the real good perks
(6) routes flown most often? Germany - US (1-2 p.a.) & Germany - SE Asia 1 p.a.
(7) Preferred Airlines? Was *A (UA, LH & TK) but I'm willing to consider others and even switch to a diff. alliance (was Gold w. NW/KLM 10 years ago)
(8) work or pleasure? (the) Pleasure (of paying for these is all mine)


Thank you for your help.
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 1:20 pm
  #731  
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Originally Posted by AirD0c
(1) What is your home airport?
JFK/LGA/EWR
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Economy
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?
5k - 30k - really depends on the year
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it?
none
(5) What is most important to you in a ffp?
Star alliance awards to Turkey (usually LH, TK). This is what I care about most. In particular, award availability and low booking fees and fuel surcharges. I try to book business awards when possible
(6) Which routes do you fly most often
NYC to Denver and San Juan (domestic) and NYC to Istanbul (international)
(7) Preferred Airlines
No preference for domestic carriers. Prefer Turkish Airlines internationally since they have non-stop flights form JFK -> IST
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure?
Both

In summary, all I really care about are flight awards (econ and business) and upgrades from NYC to Istanbul. Don't care much about status. I think I belong in a domestic FFP because of the absurd fuel charges on most international programs (I've purchased C class awards on Aeroplan and LH - typically cost ~$400 per ticket). What concerns me are *A flight redemptions on US or UA - there are a lot of mixed opinions on these forum regarding availability so I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this. I also earn a lot of miles using credit cards (e.g., Amex MR transfers).

Thanks in advance for any help and insight.
Wow, I just realized that Amex's *A partners are really limited: AC, ANA and Singapore. Can't believe I never noticed that.

This changes everything and I may have to re-think my strategy - i.e., consider skyteam or switching to SPG amex which has more *A options. Oy vey.
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 1:50 pm
  #732  
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SAT / MAA / BOM
Programs: CO Plat; UA 1K; EK Gold
Posts: 5,110
Originally Posted by AirD0c
Interesting. I was under the impression that redemption was better on UA/CO based on reports like these:

http://www.smartertravel.com/airfare...tml?id=8977054

http://thepointsguy.com/2011/10/my-r...lyer-programs/

But if real user experiences are favoring US that could tip me to dividend miles...
I am talking from reading FT-ers experiences.

However, I noticed you are going to investigate other options based on Amex partnerships.
Thats good!
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 10:36 pm
  #733  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 5
suggestion from sfo

(1) What is your home airport?
SFO

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
Y, but often C

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?
100k

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it?
I do not. VX mostly to use their cheap F upgrades

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Frequent upgrades and award redemption


(6) Which routes do you fly most often
Domestic: SFO to JFK/BOS/ORD/DAL 5-7 per year
International: SFO to LHR/FRA, SFO to BOM/BLR, SFO-NRT, 3-4 such trips per year

(7) Preferred Airlines
I love Virgin, but their international options are non-existent. I have been hoping and waiting to see if they will join one of the alliances, but looks unlikely. And they are not a good fit going forward since I will have more international travel.

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure?
Work mostly

Suggestions? If (as likely) the suggestion is going to be UA, any comments on how easy are upgrades especially for international flights out of SFO?

Thanks!
S
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 4:22 am
  #734  
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SAT / MAA / BOM
Programs: CO Plat; UA 1K; EK Gold
Posts: 5,110
Originally Posted by sach32
(1) What is your home airport?
SFO

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
Y, but often C

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?
100k

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it?
I do not. VX mostly to use their cheap F upgrades

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Frequent upgrades and award redemption


(6) Which routes do you fly most often
Domestic: SFO to JFK/BOS/ORD/DAL 5-7 per year
International: SFO to LHR/FRA, SFO to BOM/BLR, SFO-NRT, 3-4 such trips per year

(7) Preferred Airlines
I love Virgin, but their international options are non-existent. I have been hoping and waiting to see if they will join one of the alliances, but looks unlikely. And they are not a good fit going forward since I will have more international travel.

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure?
Work mostly

Suggestions? If (as likely) the suggestion is going to be UA, any comments on how easy are upgrades especially for international flights out of SFO?

Thanks!
S
With UA, International upgrades are not free (unless its an operational one). Upon reaching 100K miles on UA, You will get 6 systemwide upgrades that you use to upgrade international United operated flights. (or Lufthansa flights...but you have to convert the SWU to a paper one). There are fare class restrictions on these SWU's.
You can also use the SWUs to upgrade Business class to First class.

Otherwise, sounds like UA will be your best fit.
Another option for you to study will be Lufthansa.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 7:39 am
  #735  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3
Becoming Loyal...but to which global alliance?

(1) new home - LHR
(2) mileage - 100K
(3) Economy fare
(4) Work travel, can choose airline
(5) Future R/T destinations: AMS (6x), YVR(4x), YYZ(4x), IAD(3x), RTM(3x), ZHR(3x), HEL(2x), HKG(1x), LAS(1x) -- some domestic travel once I'm in Canada, USA, NL, and FI
(6) current status: UA Gold (37,9 on UA and 3,6 on CO in 2011, so think I'll lose status for 2012, right? ), BA Bronze (13,7)
(7) MOST IMPORTANT: upgrades on travel and free lounge access

I realise I've made the mistake of not consolidating my air miles in the past - ready to be loyal to one airline, but not sure which. Thinking BA since I'm flying out of LHR...?

So grateful for this forum! Thanks in advance.

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