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A number of threads have been started with members asking for guidance on which mileage programme they should join. In order to help users I have started this thread to allow people to post their requests for information here and to allow people to offer assistance.

For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Silver, M&M Senator etc)
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.)
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc)
(7) Preferred Airlines
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)


GENERAL INFORMATION:


If you fly less than 50k miles per year: it is almost guaranteed that your choice will be between Aegean Airlines, Turkish Airlines, and Asiana Airlines. Please look up these airlines' frequent flier programs, and make a decision as to which best suits your needs.

Some considerations to take into account:

Airlines tend to treat members of their own frequent flier program better than members of other frequent flier programs. If you fly one of these airlines, it is recommended that you choose that airline.

Some airlines have better earning/redemption charts for your pattern. For example, if you fly on cheap fares on a certain airline often, Turkish might give you miles for it, while Aegean might not. However, Turkish Airlines might charge much more for the redemption that you want to make than Aegean.

Asiana Airlines offers lifetime Star Alliance Gold for 500k miles over life. The other 2 airlines do not offer this benefit.

Asiana Airlines has a credit card in the USA and some other countries. If you are interested in credit cards, check to make sure that the program that you join has a credit card in your country.
If you still aren't sure which frequent flyer program is for you after looking these up, feel free to ask on this thread.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 8:27 am
  #646  
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Originally Posted by bruno-s
(1) What is your home airport?
LON
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
Y
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?
<25k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present?
DC Silver (with DC going started posting miles in TP)
(6) Which routes do you fly most often
Europe and US
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure?
both, but when for work usually have "forced" to take BA

With DC probably being closed in a near future, I decided to look around for another FF to put my miles. I am a TP Victoria member, since I travel to Portugal a bit, where I put my TP flights for fares that DC doesnt give miles and for which I have been now been putting all my miles.

Since I dont fly that much, I want a FF with the longest expiry date so that I can acumulate as much as possible and be able to use those miles for longer flights or C fares. Currently have to redeem them in flights to Portugal not to lose the miles.

Thanks in advance
Bruno
With less than 25k miles a year, you have a choice between TK, OZ, and A3. Evaluate these programs and see which fits your needs best...
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 8:29 am
  #647  
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Originally Posted by silverguru
My home base is Tel Aviv. I have been platinum with EL AL for 4 years, lifetime platinum with AA ,and two years with AA as executive platinum. I will start ramping up my travel again to JFK , the US west coast (reno or saltlake area ) and places like Zurich in Europe. I also invest in a gold mine near Shanghai, therefore I travel to Hong Kong ,Shanghai. I want to start banking in Singapore !
Is Star Alliance as good as OneWorld ? I had years where I bought 4 business class round the wolrd flights, and made Ex Platinum on AA with all the bonuses. Cost me $25 - $30 k. If I fly that much again ,who should I join ?
Continetal is good Tel Aviv-Newark, but how much do I need to fly to get sytemwide upgrades? If I join Air CHina for example, but use them less and their partners more, will I get system wide upgrades to use on a round the world coach trip on flghts? I have been a member of AA since 1984 ! and after 3 million miles, I am confused as to join Star Alliance at all (seems to have much more choice) as the most important thing to me is upgrades to busienss ,then ease of use of awards. American's round the world desk is excellent,easy to use,as I always change routings .
If you are flying a lot of longhaul C (like around the world trips), I'd say that you are best off crediting to Miles and More (LH/LX/OS)...
No SWUs that work alliancewide...
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 8:44 am
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Advantages of * Alliance over One World

Which is a better business class product for status and ease of use around the world - star alliance or one world ?
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 8:58 am
  #649  
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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
With less than 25k miles a year, you have a choice between TK, OZ, and A3. Evaluate these programs and see which fits your needs best...
Thanks PVDtoDEL. I will have a more detailed looked at those 3.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 9:14 am
  #650  
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Originally Posted by silverguru
Which is a better business class product for status and ease of use around the world - star alliance or one world ?
I personally like *A better, because there is better connectivity and better products mostly (NZ, SQ, LX, etc.)

Haven't actually tried an RTW though...
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 11:06 am
  #651  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Jakarta
Programs: SQ Gold, BA Bronze,GA Silver
Posts: 49
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.)
Home airports are LHR and CGK

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.)
Mostly Economy - open tickets for long haul to CGK. Have a habit of needing to change dates often on my flights.

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
>50K

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Premier, M&M Senator etc)
SQ KF-Gold

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.)
Good redemption rates, priority bag tags and lounge access.

(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc)
LHR to CGK

(7) Preferred Airlines
Anything with reasonable prices & connection times.

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)
Pleasure

Additional Info:
I've been a SQ KF Gold for several years but just find that as a programme its not great as unless you can attain PPS, the perks are relatively low on SQ. Redemption on SQ (typical used for upgrades) are now extremely costly as its double miles on their LHR-SIN-CGK route.

Contemplating swapping onto another FF system was wondering if people had advice. Been looking at Mile's and more + Royal Orchid Plus as alternatives but just wanted some advice.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 11:11 am
  #652  
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Originally Posted by Rvernius
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.)
Home airports are LHR and CGK

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.)
Mostly Economy - open tickets for long haul to CGK. Have a habit of needing to change dates often on my flights.

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
>50K

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Premier, M&M Senator etc)
SQ KF-Gold

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.)
Good redemption rates, priority bag tags and lounge access.

(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc)
LHR to CGK

(7) Preferred Airlines
Anything with reasonable prices & connection times.

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)
Pleasure

Additional Info:
I've been a SQ KF Gold for several years but just find that as a programme its not great as unless you can attain PPS, the perks are relatively low on SQ. Redemption on SQ (typical used for upgrades) are now extremely costly as its double miles on their LHR-SIN-CGK route.

Contemplating swapping onto another FF system was wondering if people had advice. Been looking at Mile's and more + Royal Orchid Plus as alternatives but just wanted some advice.

TG looks like it would fit your needs better since M&M needs 100k for *G..
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 3:08 am
  #653  
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Australia
Programs: QF WP, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 47
(1) What is your home airport?
SYD

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy?
90% in Y, sometimes Y+. C for RTWs.

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?
On *Alliance, usually zero. But let's just say around 20k in the future perhaps.

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it?
Qantas Gold (oneworld Sapphire), Virgin Australia Velocity Gold (Status matched)

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP?
The purpose of joining a *Alliance program for me is simply earn/burn. Don't care about status as I will not be flying *A often. A program that has good award redemptions/upgrades is ideal. (I am not looking to get points via CC. I do that already for QFF)

(6) Which routes do you fly most often?
I will only be flying *A for routes that are not covered extensively by oneworld. Recently I have been flying some intra-europe flights. Most of them have either Germany or Switzerland as point of departure or arrival: usually ZRH, FRA, and STR.

(7) Preferred Airlines?
Singapore, Thai Airways, Air New Zealand. But they don't really cover what I am mainly using this for (i.e., intra-europe). Other than that haven't flown much *A.

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure?
Pleasure only. Patterns are very erratic. I can travel enough to attain QFF Gold one year and then the next only do one SYD-MEL r/t. Therefore a program without points expiry (or at least for them not to expire as long as there is some activity) would be ideal.

Thanks for all the expertise here. I really know nothing about *A hehe.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 4:11 am
  #654  
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Originally Posted by eosphoros
(1) What is your home airport?
SYD

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy?
90% in Y, sometimes Y+. C for RTWs.

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?
On *Alliance, usually zero. But let's just say around 20k in the future perhaps.

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it?
Qantas Gold (oneworld Sapphire), Virgin Australia Velocity Gold (Status matched)

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP?
The purpose of joining a *Alliance program for me is simply earn/burn. Don't care about status as I will not be flying *A often. A program that has good award redemptions/upgrades is ideal. (I am not looking to get points via CC. I do that already for QFF)

(6) Which routes do you fly most often?
I will only be flying *A for routes that are not covered extensively by oneworld. Recently I have been flying some intra-europe flights. Most of them have either Germany or Switzerland as point of departure or arrival: usually ZRH, FRA, and STR.

(7) Preferred Airlines?
Singapore, Thai Airways, Air New Zealand. But they don't really cover what I am mainly using this for (i.e., intra-europe). Other than that haven't flown much *A.

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure?
Pleasure only. Patterns are very erratic. I can travel enough to attain QFF Gold one year and then the next only do one SYD-MEL r/t. Therefore a program without points expiry (or at least for them not to expire as long as there is some activity) would be ideal.

Thanks for all the expertise here. I really know nothing about *A hehe.
20k miles is the threshold for A3 *G. The earn/burn is decent on A3 (nothing special), but *G can really improve the flying experience on *A...
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 5:09 am
  #655  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Jakarta
Programs: SQ Gold, BA Bronze,GA Silver
Posts: 49
Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
TG looks like it would fit your needs better since M&M needs 100k for *G..
Many thanks for the quick reply!
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 6:13 am
  #656  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Hsinchu, Taiwan
Programs: DL Gold
Posts: 22
(1) What is your home airport?
TPE (Taipei suburb), TSA (downtown Taipei)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
Mostly Y, occasionally C.
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?
40-50K
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it?
DL Gold
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Free Lounge Access, priority services,
(6) Which routes do you fly most often?
Taiwan to USA, Taiwan to Japan (Tokyo, Osaka)
(7) Preferred Airlines
ANA, Singapore Airlines, United
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure?
Mostly work.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 9:10 am
  #657  
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SAT / MAA / BOM
Programs: CO Plat; UA 1K; EK Gold
Posts: 5,110
Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
TG looks like it would fit your needs better since M&M needs 100k for *G..
I was going to say the same thing!!
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 9:12 am
  #658  
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SAT / MAA / BOM
Programs: CO Plat; UA 1K; EK Gold
Posts: 5,110
Originally Posted by herculesc
(1) What is your home airport?
TPE (Taipei suburb), TSA (downtown Taipei)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
Mostly Y, occasionally C.
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?
40-50K
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it?
DL Gold
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Free Lounge Access, priority services,
(6) Which routes do you fly most often?
Taiwan to USA, Taiwan to Japan (Tokyo, Osaka)
(7) Preferred Airlines
ANA, Singapore Airlines, United
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure?
Mostly work.
Consider TG (Thai) / OZ (Asiana).
Singapore and United schemes will not work well for you in these situations.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 9:52 am
  #659  
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Toronto, Canada
Programs: Aeroplan, Mileagelus, Aadvantage, Hilton Gold, A|Club Platinum
Posts: 20
Guess I'll post this again since I got zero response the last time and several posted afterwards got some useful advice.

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.) YYZ
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.) C for longer hauls always, or Y for short hops.
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k) right about 30K
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Premier, M&M Senator etc) *A Silver.
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.) Award redemption, upgrades, followed by lounge access and priority check-in.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc) North American followed by Transatlantic or Transpacific. That honestly depends on the year.
(7) Preferred Airlines Air Canada, United
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?) Long hauls which are infrequent, pleasure. Short hauls which are much more frequent, business.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 10:02 am
  #660  
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Originally Posted by GothamNurse
Guess I'll post this again since I got zero response the last time and several posted afterwards got some useful advice.

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.) YYZ
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.) C for longer hauls always, or Y for short hops.
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k) right about 30K
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Premier, M&M Senator etc) *A Silver.
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.) Award redemption, upgrades, followed by lounge access and priority check-in.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc) North American followed by Transatlantic or Transpacific. That honestly depends on the year.
(7) Preferred Airlines Air Canada, United
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?) Long hauls which are infrequent, pleasure. Short hauls which are much more frequent, business.
A3, TK, OZ, AC (only because you are a canada resident, otherwise it probably woulnd't work out)

Evaluate these programs and figure out which suits your needs best.
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