WN Suspending Service from SYR/BLI/CZM/IAH
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The press release also notes significant capacity reductions at O'Hare and Atlanta. For Atlanta (my home airport), will be interesting to see how many flights get cut, whether any non-stop destinations are cut, and whether they give up any gates on their side of the C Terminal.
https://swamedia.com/releases/release-f9b0d09b13627fa65cf1f5e65d0c91db-southwest-airlines-reports-first-quarter-2024-results
https://swamedia.com/releases/release-f9b0d09b13627fa65cf1f5e65d0c91db-southwest-airlines-reports-first-quarter-2024-results
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I don’t see FAT going. It’s close to national parks and there isn’t a substitute airport near it.
I can see reduction if they are serving nearby airports.
they could pull out of IAD if WN gets outside perimeter slots from DCA. Right now they only fly to DEN and occasionally to PHX. They stopped running IAD-ATL and IAD-MDW.
I still see them adding cities that are tourist places. Therr is bern long talk of doing JAC
other candidates are the 1 flight a day routes like denver to montrose that could be dropped.
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JAC is an expensive airport (for passengers, airlines and general aviation) and the ground staff (eg. baggage handling) can leave a lot to be desired. Many people who use JAC would be delighted if WN flew there but it seems to be hard for lower cost airlines to make it work. F9 tried serving JAC, then ended the service, then tried it again, then ended the service again. SY are apparently now trying the JAC market but I'm skeptical they will make money from it.
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Local paper (AJC) says "the 119 departures a day from Atlanta will decline to 94 daily departures."
Both statements can't be right.
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It looks like BLI is losing another airline which isn't G4 or AS/QX (which is down to only SEA flights) and the occasional casino charter.
I was sad when WN decided not to serve PAE, but was happy when it announced BLI. I was even able to fly the inaugural flight. Loads were almost always very light though, with 45 passengers on a 738 flying OAK-BLI being the lowest I experienced. Passengers, WN agents, and the contracted staff were all extremely nice and seemed to love their jobs.
One thing that made it hard for WN to succeed at BLI was competion from four nearby airports as well as a really odd choice of flights (2x daily OAK, 1x daily LAS, later Saturday-only DEN and swapping the OAK and LAS slots) which didn't make for the best connections. Going to daily flights to LAS, PHX, and DEN would e allowed for better connections. Flights out of BLI also skyrocketed in price the last few months such that I haven't flown out of there my last few trips despite preferring it over SEA.
I absolutely loved that I could be leaving the BLI economy lot with my checked bags 17 minutes after landing.
I was sad when WN decided not to serve PAE, but was happy when it announced BLI. I was even able to fly the inaugural flight. Loads were almost always very light though, with 45 passengers on a 738 flying OAK-BLI being the lowest I experienced. Passengers, WN agents, and the contracted staff were all extremely nice and seemed to love their jobs.
One thing that made it hard for WN to succeed at BLI was competion from four nearby airports as well as a really odd choice of flights (2x daily OAK, 1x daily LAS, later Saturday-only DEN and swapping the OAK and LAS slots) which didn't make for the best connections. Going to daily flights to LAS, PHX, and DEN would e allowed for better connections. Flights out of BLI also skyrocketed in price the last few months such that I haven't flown out of there my last few trips despite preferring it over SEA.
I absolutely loved that I could be leaving the BLI economy lot with my checked bags 17 minutes after landing.
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Unless something has changed since I left the Jackson Hole area in 2019, there's no chance of WN adding JAC unless either WN buys Airbus/RJs or Boeing reduce the minimum take-off distance for a 737. The problem (as it was explained to me) is that the combination of the high altitude and short runway means that a fully loaded 737 can't safely take off.
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Really? What's your basis for saying that? My explanation is exactly what UA told me and I can say, after living in Jackson WY for six years and flying in and out every two weeks, that almost all the commercial planes one sees there are either RJs or A319s or A320s.
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Really? What's your basis for saying that? My explanation is exactly what UA told me and I can say, after living in Jackson WY for six years and flying in and out every two weeks, that almost all the commercial planes one sees there are either RJs or A319s or A320s.
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Really? What's your basis for saying that? My explanation is exactly what UA told me and I can say, after living in Jackson WY for six years and flying in and out every two weeks, that almost all the commercial planes one sees there are either RJs or A319s or A320s.
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Wait! What?? Do you this mean the 737-800 or MAX8?? It can landings in Jackson Hole. The runways isn’t even small or large enough to land in JAC. Isn’t it possible to handle it?
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they also closed the airport mid April- late June in 2022 iirc to redo the tarmac/ runways
DL/UA fly smaller craft from SLC/DEN other routes have 737s like AS from ORD and JFK and DL from ATL. AS has been using skywest for SEA-JAC on some days they May use their own 737
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I think WN adds a few Canadian markets in the next few years with YVR being one of them.
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How many times have we been told by the FA's to buckle up because "this Boeing is Going"
I realize the density altitude doesn't compare but I've been on a fully packed -700 at KEYW and the short field take off was exciting for me. I once landed that runway in a Cessna 152 10 years prior and appreciated the contrast.
I realize the density altitude doesn't compare but I've been on a fully packed -700 at KEYW and the short field take off was exciting for me. I once landed that runway in a Cessna 152 10 years prior and appreciated the contrast.