High number of complaints on Singapore Airlines new Premium Economy product
#76
Join Date: Aug 2016
Programs: Kris flyer, velocity, Air NZ
Posts: 12
SQ premium economy is just better seat with haphazard economy service.
At similar price other airlines provides better seat, priority checkin, priority bag tags, priority boarding plus business class meals.
At similar price other airlines provides better seat, priority checkin, priority bag tags, priority boarding plus business class meals.
#77
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 32
dont mind being the last few to receive my food so long as i can enjoy my meal with a drink
#78
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 595
Basically only settle for PY should:
-coach is in the highest Y price, no more deeply discounted V/K fare.
-if you have orphaned miles to burn.
-if you just want to splurge. LOL.
-etc.
IMO PY is not worth it at all!
Economy after all. Only slightly better space and BTC.
And only nasi lemak BTC is ok FYI.
-coach is in the highest Y price, no more deeply discounted V/K fare.
-if you have orphaned miles to burn.
-if you just want to splurge. LOL.
-etc.
IMO PY is not worth it at all!
Economy after all. Only slightly better space and BTC.
And only nasi lemak BTC is ok FYI.
#79
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,918
is it possible to speak to the lead of the gallery or the server let them know not to serve the BTC meals so fast and serve it together when drinks trolley arrive? or maybe just leave my food until drink trolley is here
dont mind being the last few to receive my food so long as i can enjoy my meal with a drink
dont mind being the last few to receive my food so long as i can enjoy my meal with a drink
1) Getting the special/BTC meals out first makes it easier for the cabin crew to identify who needs to be served still.
2) Usually the drink trolley follows the food trolley. Which means that the food trolley people would be asking the drink trolley people to get the special/BTC meals to get the special/BTC meal for them (as they would be sandwiched)... slowing the service down.
3) Serving the BTC/special meal last... you'll get complaints from many of those people just like you guys are complaining here.
There is no easy solution as all processes have many drawbacks.
#80
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 32
You're asking for a lot of additional manpower/co-ordination to be done that could hamper the food and drink trollies. Consider:
1) Getting the special/BTC meals out first makes it easier for the cabin crew to identify who needs to be served still.
2) Usually the drink trolley follows the food trolley. Which means that the food trolley people would be asking the drink trolley people to get the special/BTC meals to get the special/BTC meal for them (as they would be sandwiched)... slowing the service down.
3) Serving the BTC/special meal last... you'll get complaints from many of those people just like you guys are complaining here.
There is no easy solution as all processes have many drawbacks.
1) Getting the special/BTC meals out first makes it easier for the cabin crew to identify who needs to be served still.
2) Usually the drink trolley follows the food trolley. Which means that the food trolley people would be asking the drink trolley people to get the special/BTC meals to get the special/BTC meal for them (as they would be sandwiched)... slowing the service down.
3) Serving the BTC/special meal last... you'll get complaints from many of those people just like you guys are complaining here.
There is no easy solution as all processes have many drawbacks.
#81
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: MM, Krisflyer, QFF, VFF
Posts: 441
SIA assign a dedicated crew for their upper level economy cabin too?
#82
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: YYZ
Programs: A3&O6 Gold,IC AMB & HH Diamond
Posts: 14,132
is it possible to speak to the lead of the gallery or the server let them know not to serve the BTC meals so fast and serve it together when drinks trolley arrive? or maybe just leave my food until drink trolley is here
dont mind being the last few to receive my food so long as i can enjoy my meal with a drink
dont mind being the last few to receive my food so long as i can enjoy my meal with a drink
Usually once in the air, these airlines first start with a drink only service if I am not wrong unless this has changed. So when they do their drink and nuts service, you ask for 2 drinks, one for the special meal and one to enjoy right away. This may be a solution.
#83
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 32
The problem with the SQ crew is that they are so robotic and trained as such that any change in their routine will cause them to malfunction just like a robot. So here is a solution I have for you and all others special meal people.
Usually once in the air, these airlines first start with a drink only service if I am not wrong unless this has changed. So when they do their drink and nuts service, you ask for 2 drinks, one for the special meal and one to enjoy right away. This may be a solution.
Usually once in the air, these airlines first start with a drink only service if I am not wrong unless this has changed. So when they do their drink and nuts service, you ask for 2 drinks, one for the special meal and one to enjoy right away. This may be a solution.
what i noticed on all my SQ operated flights is that sometimes the crew refuses to give me the entire can of drink (just purely soft drinks not wine alcohol), eg coke,sprite etc. canned drinks, some would be happy to give me the entire can , some would just pour one miserable cup and keep the can back in the cart which makes me seriously... not sure about any ground rules on giving out whole can of drinks to pax though.... anyone care to enighten.
even when im in last row of the plane they still cant give me the entire can explaning that drinks are catered for exact amount of pax bla bla and they might not have enough for the flight bla bla... which makes me even more the crew rather come over and refill my coke xxx times then to give me one can to myself and save all their troubles ^
maybe im thinking too much over a can drink
#84
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: YYZ
Programs: A3&O6 Gold,IC AMB & HH Diamond
Posts: 14,132
Crew not giving the entire can may be part of the CUT BACKS. BTW I always get the entire can when I ask. Or else I'll ring the bell and ask for a refill to piss them off. They serve the entire can in Business.
Last edited by djjaguar64; Aug 9, 2017 at 6:55 pm
#85
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: ZRH
Programs: QR Gold / M&M FTL / Marriott Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 655
The problem with the SQ crew is that they are so robotic and trained as such that any change in their routine will cause them to malfunction just like a robot. So here is a solution I have for you and all others special meal people.
Usually once in the air, these airlines first start with a drink only service if I am not wrong unless this has changed. So when they do their drink and nuts service, you ask for 2 drinks, one for the special meal and one to enjoy right away. This may be a solution.
Usually once in the air, these airlines first start with a drink only service if I am not wrong unless this has changed. So when they do their drink and nuts service, you ask for 2 drinks, one for the special meal and one to enjoy right away. This may be a solution.
My BTC arrived 15-20min before any drink. Made me really upset. PE SQ is no more in my plans.
#86
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 188
I have a PE booking for EU-AUS trip. Reading through posts it seems many people are not satisfied with it. Apart from soft product which I'm not really interested in, how does the hard product compare to LH PE and LH Y or EK Y? I mean the seating, the space and recline? I'll be on A380 and A350, last row of PE.
How likely is an op-up to C? No status.
How likely is an op-up to C? No status.
#87
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: AMS/RTM
Posts: 2,827
As I said before, if you compare it to the cheapest full-mile earning fare in economy, it's an absolute bargain.
Going EU-Australia back-to-back you'll appreciate the space. On a XXX-SIN trip with only one leg I can see why PE might not be worth the expense.
How likely is an op-up to C? No status.
#89
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: East Coast
Programs: AA CONCIERGE KEY & 1MM, HILTON DIAMOND
Posts: 11,970
SQ wonders why it isn't profitable when it does thinks that make no sense. They can either provide water bottles to PY pax and a drink of choice or make the decision to assign 2 dedicated cabin crew to this class of service (which can be the same cabin crew from Y but they will focus on the PY service first).