Park Hyatt Tokyo (REOPENED 9 DEC 25) REVIEW - MASTER THREAD
#4921




Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: AA EP, UA 1K/MM, WoH Globalist, HH Diamond
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#4922




Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,049
Ok thanks for the pointless semantics. Clearly the point was to say that someone staying as an adult couple with a 14 year old child not getting breakfast is absurd. 14 is not an adult by any measure other than to charge for occupancy, which is fine, but don't kid yourself and try and argue that the terms of the Hyatt program are not created with the intention that a <18 year old (especially 14 with their parents...come on now) gets breakfast as part of the benefit.
You can pay for anything you want but what is the point of the status? That's a ridiculous interpretation but I'm not terribly surprised given how weirdly rigid and structured the hotel is being about the breakfast in general. The way they describe the Japanese set and how if you order that, you cannot go to the buffet...you would think they had snipers waiting to stop you. I literally heard them explain it as, if you order this, please stay here and don't go to the buffet area.
You can pay for anything you want but what is the point of the status? That's a ridiculous interpretation but I'm not terribly surprised given how weirdly rigid and structured the hotel is being about the breakfast in general. The way they describe the Japanese set and how if you order that, you cannot go to the buffet...you would think they had snipers waiting to stop you. I literally heard them explain it as, if you order this, please stay here and don't go to the buffet area.
#4923




Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: AA EP, UA 1K/MM, WoH Globalist, HH Diamond
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Ok thanks for the pointless semantics. Clearly the point was to say that someone staying as an adult couple with a 14 year old child not getting breakfast is absurd. 14 is not an adult by any measure other than to charge for occupancy, which is fine, but don't kid yourself and try and argue that the terms of the Hyatt program are not created with the intention that a <18 year old (especially 14 with their parents...come on now) gets breakfast as part of the benefit.
You can pay for anything you want but what is the point of the status? That's a ridiculous interpretation but I'm not terribly surprised given how weirdly rigid and structured the hotel is being about the breakfast in general. The way they describe the Japanese set and how if you order that, you cannot go to the buffet...you would think they had snipers waiting to stop you. I literally heard them explain it as, if you order this, please stay here and don't go to the buffet area.
You can pay for anything you want but what is the point of the status? That's a ridiculous interpretation but I'm not terribly surprised given how weirdly rigid and structured the hotel is being about the breakfast in general. The way they describe the Japanese set and how if you order that, you cannot go to the buffet...you would think they had snipers waiting to stop you. I literally heard them explain it as, if you order this, please stay here and don't go to the buffet area.
#4924
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
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Ok thanks for the pointless semantics. Clearly the point was to say that someone staying as an adult couple with a 14 year old child not getting breakfast is absurd. 14 is not an adult by any measure other than to charge for occupancy, which is fine, but don't kid yourself and try and argue that the terms of the Hyatt program are not created with the intention that a <18 year old (especially 14 with their parents...come on now) gets breakfast as part of the benefit.
You can pay for anything you want but what is the point of the status? That's a ridiculous interpretation but I'm not terribly surprised given how weirdly rigid and structured the hotel is being about the breakfast in general. The way they describe the Japanese set and how if you order that, you cannot go to the buffet...you would think they had snipers waiting to stop you. I literally heard them explain it as, if you order this, please stay here and don't go to the buffet area.
You can pay for anything you want but what is the point of the status? That's a ridiculous interpretation but I'm not terribly surprised given how weirdly rigid and structured the hotel is being about the breakfast in general. The way they describe the Japanese set and how if you order that, you cannot go to the buffet...you would think they had snipers waiting to stop you. I literally heard them explain it as, if you order this, please stay here and don't go to the buffet area.
(d) Club Lounge Access/Breakfast Benefit. When staying at a participating hotel or resort that has a Club lounge, Globalists will receive access to the Club lounge. When staying at a participating hotel or resort that does not have a Club lounge (or if Club lounge is closed), Globalists will receive daily complimentary full breakfast (which includes one entre or standard breakfast buffet, juice, and coffee, as well as tax, gratuity and service charges) for each registered guest in the room, up to a maximum of two (2) adults and two (2) children. The age cut-off for a child is determined by each hotel or resort in its sole discretion.
#4925




Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,049
I get it. I understand the terms and I'm not saying they can't do it. I'm just saying that it's pretty absurd and no one really expects this to be used to deny breakfast to a 14 year old with their parents but it is what it is.
Ironically I would argue that if the hotel won't let them book a room by themselves then they aren't really adults by the hotel's definition. Denying glob breakfast coverage to 14 year olds by calling them adults is ridiculous, technically allowed or not.
Doesn't surprise me though, as I said before, with the strangely persnickety vibe at breakfast. Little less focus on weird uptight penny pinching and maybe a little more effort on some other service aspects. Most recent trip I stayed at a Tokyu stay, a Centric and the PH and I had zero issues until getting to the PH where I shockingly had a series of issues on the very first day. Wasn't the homecoming I expected after the renovation. Breakfast QUALITY however is top shelf, no question.
Ironically I would argue that if the hotel won't let them book a room by themselves then they aren't really adults by the hotel's definition. Denying glob breakfast coverage to 14 year olds by calling them adults is ridiculous, technically allowed or not.
Doesn't surprise me though, as I said before, with the strangely persnickety vibe at breakfast. Little less focus on weird uptight penny pinching and maybe a little more effort on some other service aspects. Most recent trip I stayed at a Tokyu stay, a Centric and the PH and I had zero issues until getting to the PH where I shockingly had a series of issues on the very first day. Wasn't the homecoming I expected after the renovation. Breakfast QUALITY however is top shelf, no question.
Last edited by antonius66; Feb 11, 2026 at 10:46 pm
#4926
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Children eat free is usually set with an expectation of small children who don't really eat a lot, and where it feels more absurd to charge a full price. Once you get to 12-14 and up children probably eat more than a lot of adults.
Admittedly, that only applies to the buffet, as the set Japanese meal is not variable no matter how hungry they are. Unless they can evade the snipers you mentioned above.
#4927




Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Osaka
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, UA
Posts: 3,202
Actually, I consider it more absurd when guests have a couple of teenage children stay in the same room with the parents. Why not get an adjacent room? Can't afford 2 rooms at the PHT? Then stay at the HRT or some other place within your budget.
#4928


Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 2,143
ok my kids are only 10 so far but still lol
#4930




Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 12
Can you please elaborate on this. We are not concerned about the breakfast at all but need a confirmation on number of rooms to book. Our kids are 9 & 14. Hyatt portal clearly let me book the corresponding room for 4 guests - 3 adults and 1 child. Will they raise an objection at check in and ask us to book 2 rooms ?
#4931


Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 941
Can you please elaborate on this. We are not concerned about the breakfast at all but need a confirmation on number of rooms to book. Our kids are 9 & 14. Hyatt portal clearly let me book the corresponding room for 4 guests - 3 adults and 1 child. Will they raise an objection at check in and ask us to book 2 rooms ?
#4932


Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,556
Can you please elaborate on this. We are not concerned about the breakfast at all but need a confirmation on number of rooms to book. Our kids are 9 & 14. Hyatt portal clearly let me book the corresponding room for 4 guests - 3 adults and 1 child. Will they raise an objection at check in and ask us to book 2 rooms ?
#4933




Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: AA EP, UA 1K/MM, WoH Globalist, HH Diamond
Posts: 3,847
I get it. I understand the terms and I'm not saying they can't do it. I'm just saying that it's pretty absurd and no one really expects this to be used to deny breakfast to a 14 year old with their parents but it is what it is.
Ironically I would argue that if the hotel won't let them book a room by themselves then they aren't really adults by the hotel's definition. Denying glob breakfast coverage to 14 year olds by calling them adults is ridiculous, technically allowed or not.
Doesn't surprise me though, as I said before, with the strangely persnickety vibe at breakfast. Little less focus on weird uptight penny pinching and maybe a little more effort on some other service aspects. Most recent trip I stayed at a Tokyu stay, a Centric and the PH and I had zero issues until getting to the PH where I shockingly had a series of issues on the very first day. Wasn't the homecoming I expected after the renovation. Breakfast QUALITY however is top shelf, no question.
Ironically I would argue that if the hotel won't let them book a room by themselves then they aren't really adults by the hotel's definition. Denying glob breakfast coverage to 14 year olds by calling them adults is ridiculous, technically allowed or not.
Doesn't surprise me though, as I said before, with the strangely persnickety vibe at breakfast. Little less focus on weird uptight penny pinching and maybe a little more effort on some other service aspects. Most recent trip I stayed at a Tokyu stay, a Centric and the PH and I had zero issues until getting to the PH where I shockingly had a series of issues on the very first day. Wasn't the homecoming I expected after the renovation. Breakfast QUALITY however is top shelf, no question.
Also, some may think that having 4 people in a room with two beds and 1 bath is absurd and would instead book two rooms. Or book a suite, a family room, or larger space that could accommodate 4 people.
#4934




Join Date: Jan 2026
Posts: 4
Can you please elaborate on this. We are not concerned about the breakfast at all but need a confirmation on number of rooms to book. Our kids are 9 & 14. Hyatt portal clearly let me book the corresponding room for 4 guests - 3 adults and 1 child. Will they raise an objection at check in and ask us to book 2 rooms ?


