Jan 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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In 2025, La Premiere is available on to 10 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo (HND), Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
In 2025, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. AIR FRANCE LA PREMIERE 2025 Q1, Q2 AND Q3 SCHEDULE
Before US DST = Before 9th of March 2025
Between US and EU DST = Between 9th and 30th of March 2025
During EU DST = Starts 30th of March 2025
Peak Season = June, July, August
NEW YORK JFK (3X to 5X DAILY)
BEFORE US DST (9TH OF MARCH) :
TO JFK
AF4 10:30 - 13:00
AF6 13:30 - 16:10
AF8 16:30 - 19:10
FROM JFK
AF1 16:30 - 05:45+1
AF5 18:30 - 07:50+1
AF7 21:30 - 10:50+1
BETWEEN US DST AND EU DST :
TO JFK
AF4 10:30 - 14:00
AF6 13:30 - 17:10
AF8 16:30 - 20:10
FROM JFK
AF1 17:30 - 05:45+1
AF5 19:30 - 07:50+1
AF7 22:30 - 10:50+1
DURING EU DST (LOW SEASON) :
TO JFK
AF4 10:30 - 12:40
AF6 13:30 - 15:45
AF8 16:30 - 18:45
FROM JFK
AF3 17:30 - 06:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1
DURING EU DST (PEAK SEASON) :
TO JFK
AF2 08:30 - 10:30
AF4 10:30 - 12:40
AF6 13:30 - 15:45
AF8 16:30 - 18:45
AF10 18:30 - 20:55
FROM JFK
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF3 17:30 - 06:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1
AF9 23:30 - 13:00+1
Notes on the JFK operations :
THE FLAGSHIP FLIGHTS ARE AF4, AF6 AND AF8.
AF10 / AF9 OPERATE WITH LA PREMIERE FROM JUNE 2ND UNTIL OCTOBER 25TH ONLY (PEAK). AF10 OPERATES WITHOUT LA PREMIERE FROM THE 14TH OF APRIL ONWARDS, BUT ONLY ON MONDAYS, WEDNESDAYS AND FRIDAYS (WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE 29TH OF MAY AND UNTIL THE 2ND OF JUNE, WHEN IT BECOMES DAILY).
BEFORE 30TH OF MARCH 2025:
A/C OPERATING AF4, RETURNS ON AF1
AFTER 30TH OF MARCH 2025:
A/C OPERATING AF4, RETURNS ON AF3
STARTING 9TH OF JUNE:
A/C OPERATING AF2, RETURNS ON AF1
A/C OPERATING AF4, RETURNS AS AF3
THE 16:30, 17:30 AND 18:30 SLOTS ALTERNATE BETWEEN NUMBERS 1, 3 AND 5.
AF1 OPERATES WITH P PRODUCT UNTIL EU DST AND IS OPERATED WITH THE AC ARRIVING ON AF4, THEN ONLY OPERATES WITH P PRODUCT AGAIN STARTING THE 9TH OF JUNE UNTIL THE 25TH OF OCTOBER WITH THE AIRCRAFT ARRIVING ON AF2.
NOTE THAT THIS ROUTE IS HEAVILY SUBJECT TO LAST MINUTE AIRCRAFT CHANGES. EVEN ON FLAGSHIP 777 ROUTES. DOWNGRADES HAVE BEEN REPORTED MULTIPLE TIMES.
LOS ANGELES (2X to 3X Daily)
BEFORE US DST
TO LAX
AF22 10:15 - 13:05
AF24 13:20 - 16:10
FROM LAX
AF23 15:25 - 11:10+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
BETWEEN US DST AND EU DST :
TO LAX
AF22 10:15 - 13:55
AF24 13:20 - 17:20
FROM LAX
AF23 16:15 - 11:00+1
AF25 19:30 - 14:20+1
DURING EU DST (LOW SEASON)
TO LAX
AF22 10:30 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
FROM LAX
AF23 15:25 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
DURING EU DST (PEAK SEASON)
TO LAX
AF20 08:45 - 11:20
AF22 10:30 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
FROM LAX
AF21 13:40 - 09:30+1
AF23 15:25 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20 +1
Notes on the LAX operations :
AF 20 / 21 ONLY OPERATES WITH P PRODUCT FROM THE 23RD OF JUNE UNTIL THE 31ST OF AUGUST. BEFORE THE 31ST OF MAY 2025, THIS FLIGHT IS NOT AVAILABLE ON SUNDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS. IN APRIL THIS FLIGHT ONLY OPERATES ON MONDAYS, THURSDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
WASHINGTON IAD
BEFORE US DST
TO IAD
AF50 13:35 - 16:25
FROM IAD
AF51 18:40 - 08:10+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO IAD
AF50 13:25 - 17:15
FROM IAD
AF51 19:30 - 08:00+1
DURING EU DST (LOW AND PEAK SEASON)
TO IAD
AF50 13:40 - 16:15
FROM IAD
AF51 18:30 - 08:15+1
SAN FRANCISCO SFO
BEFORE US DST
TO SFO
AF84 10:25 - 13:10
FROM SFO
AF83 15:25 - 11:20+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO SFO
AF84 10:25 - 14:10
FROM SFO
AF83 16:25 - 11:20+1
DURING EU DST (LOW AND PEAK SEASON)
TO SFO
AF84 10:20 - 12:50
FROM SFO
AF83 15:05 - 10:55+1
MIAMI MIA
(MAJOR SCHEDULE CHANGE)
BEFORE US DST
TO MIA
AF90 13:10 - 17:30
FROM MIA
AF99 19:50 - 10:45+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO MIA
AF90 13:10 - 18:30
FROM MIA
AF99 20:50 - 10:45+1
DURING EU DST (LOW AND PEAK SEASONS)
TO MIA
AF90 10:25 - 14:15
FROM MIA
AF91 16:35 - 07:35+1
Notes on the MIA operations :
THE RETURN FLIGHTS FROM MIAMI TO PARIS CDG WILL CHANGE NUMBERS AFTER THE 31ST OF MARCH. AF99 AND AF95 WILL BECOME AF91 AND AF93. THESE FLIGHTS WILL OPERATE MUCH EARLIER THAN BEFORE. LA PREMIERE IS ONLY AVAILABLE ON AF91.
SAO PAULO GRU
BEFORE EU DST
TO GRU
AF460 10:30 - 18:20
FROM GRU
AF459 20:30 - 11:55+1
DURING EU DST
TO GRU
AF460 10:10 - 17:00
FROM GRU
AF459 19:15 - 11:15+1
ABIDJAN
BEFORE EU DST :
TO ABJ
AF702 14:35 - 19:55
FROM ABJ
AF703 22:15 - 05:45+1
DURING EU DST :
TO ABJ
AF702 14:05 - 18:35
FROM ABJ
AF703 21:05 - 05:45+1
DUBAI
BEFORE EU DST
TO DXB
AF662 13:35 - 23:20
FROM DXB
AF655 01:30 - 06:25
DURING EU DST
TO DXB
AF662 13:40 - 22:35
FROM DXB
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
SINGAPORE
BEFORE EU DST
TO SIN
AF256 21:05 - 16:55+1
FROM SIN
AF257 22:55 - 06:10+1
DURING EU DST
TO SIN
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
FROM SIN
AF257 22:35 - 06:10+1
TOKYO HANEDA
BEFORE EU DST
TO HND
AF282 09:25 - 06:50+1 (NOT DAILY. LA PREMIERE RARELY AVAILABLE)
AF274 21:55 - 19:25+1
FROM HND
AF293 01:00 - 07:55 (3X WEEKLY)
AF281 09:05 - 15:55 (NOT DAILY. LA PREMIERE RARELY AVAILABLE)
AF279 22:50 - 05:45+1 (4X WEEKLY)
DURING EU DST
TO HND
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
FROM HND
AF293 00:05 - 08:00
Note on HND operations :
AF279 AND AF293 IS THE SAME RETURN FLIGHT OF AF274, UNDER TWO DIFFERENT CODES DUE TO THE SLOTS BEING ALLOCATED ON THE SAME DAY.
4X WEEKLY IT RETURNS BEFORE MIDNIGHT UNDER CODE AF279, THREE TIMES WEEKLY AFTER MIDNIGHT, IT RETURNS UNDER CODE AF293.
This cabin could become available on newer aircrafts and more routes in the future.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 20 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, E and Q)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated as P service) included Beirut, Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Mexico, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2025, La Premiere is available on to 10 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo (HND), Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
In 2025, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. AIR FRANCE LA PREMIERE 2025 Q1, Q2 AND Q3 SCHEDULE
Before US DST = Before 9th of March 2025
Between US and EU DST = Between 9th and 30th of March 2025
During EU DST = Starts 30th of March 2025
Peak Season = June, July, August
NEW YORK JFK (3X to 5X DAILY)
BEFORE US DST (9TH OF MARCH) :
TO JFK
AF4 10:30 - 13:00
AF6 13:30 - 16:10
AF8 16:30 - 19:10
FROM JFK
AF1 16:30 - 05:45+1
AF5 18:30 - 07:50+1
AF7 21:30 - 10:50+1
BETWEEN US DST AND EU DST :
TO JFK
AF4 10:30 - 14:00
AF6 13:30 - 17:10
AF8 16:30 - 20:10
FROM JFK
AF1 17:30 - 05:45+1
AF5 19:30 - 07:50+1
AF7 22:30 - 10:50+1
DURING EU DST (LOW SEASON) :
TO JFK
AF4 10:30 - 12:40
AF6 13:30 - 15:45
AF8 16:30 - 18:45
FROM JFK
AF3 17:30 - 06:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1
DURING EU DST (PEAK SEASON) :
TO JFK
AF2 08:30 - 10:30
AF4 10:30 - 12:40
AF6 13:30 - 15:45
AF8 16:30 - 18:45
AF10 18:30 - 20:55
FROM JFK
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF3 17:30 - 06:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1
AF9 23:30 - 13:00+1
Notes on the JFK operations :
THE FLAGSHIP FLIGHTS ARE AF4, AF6 AND AF8.
AF10 / AF9 OPERATE WITH LA PREMIERE FROM JUNE 2ND UNTIL OCTOBER 25TH ONLY (PEAK). AF10 OPERATES WITHOUT LA PREMIERE FROM THE 14TH OF APRIL ONWARDS, BUT ONLY ON MONDAYS, WEDNESDAYS AND FRIDAYS (WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE 29TH OF MAY AND UNTIL THE 2ND OF JUNE, WHEN IT BECOMES DAILY).
BEFORE 30TH OF MARCH 2025:
A/C OPERATING AF4, RETURNS ON AF1
AFTER 30TH OF MARCH 2025:
A/C OPERATING AF4, RETURNS ON AF3
STARTING 9TH OF JUNE:
A/C OPERATING AF2, RETURNS ON AF1
A/C OPERATING AF4, RETURNS AS AF3
THE 16:30, 17:30 AND 18:30 SLOTS ALTERNATE BETWEEN NUMBERS 1, 3 AND 5.
AF1 OPERATES WITH P PRODUCT UNTIL EU DST AND IS OPERATED WITH THE AC ARRIVING ON AF4, THEN ONLY OPERATES WITH P PRODUCT AGAIN STARTING THE 9TH OF JUNE UNTIL THE 25TH OF OCTOBER WITH THE AIRCRAFT ARRIVING ON AF2.
NOTE THAT THIS ROUTE IS HEAVILY SUBJECT TO LAST MINUTE AIRCRAFT CHANGES. EVEN ON FLAGSHIP 777 ROUTES. DOWNGRADES HAVE BEEN REPORTED MULTIPLE TIMES.
LOS ANGELES (2X to 3X Daily)
BEFORE US DST
TO LAX
AF22 10:15 - 13:05
AF24 13:20 - 16:10
FROM LAX
AF23 15:25 - 11:10+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
BETWEEN US DST AND EU DST :
TO LAX
AF22 10:15 - 13:55
AF24 13:20 - 17:20
FROM LAX
AF23 16:15 - 11:00+1
AF25 19:30 - 14:20+1
DURING EU DST (LOW SEASON)
TO LAX
AF22 10:30 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
FROM LAX
AF23 15:25 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
DURING EU DST (PEAK SEASON)
TO LAX
AF20 08:45 - 11:20
AF22 10:30 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
FROM LAX
AF21 13:40 - 09:30+1
AF23 15:25 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20 +1
Notes on the LAX operations :
AF 20 / 21 ONLY OPERATES WITH P PRODUCT FROM THE 23RD OF JUNE UNTIL THE 31ST OF AUGUST. BEFORE THE 31ST OF MAY 2025, THIS FLIGHT IS NOT AVAILABLE ON SUNDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS. IN APRIL THIS FLIGHT ONLY OPERATES ON MONDAYS, THURSDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
WASHINGTON IAD
BEFORE US DST
TO IAD
AF50 13:35 - 16:25
FROM IAD
AF51 18:40 - 08:10+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO IAD
AF50 13:25 - 17:15
FROM IAD
AF51 19:30 - 08:00+1
DURING EU DST (LOW AND PEAK SEASON)
TO IAD
AF50 13:40 - 16:15
FROM IAD
AF51 18:30 - 08:15+1
SAN FRANCISCO SFO
BEFORE US DST
TO SFO
AF84 10:25 - 13:10
FROM SFO
AF83 15:25 - 11:20+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO SFO
AF84 10:25 - 14:10
FROM SFO
AF83 16:25 - 11:20+1
DURING EU DST (LOW AND PEAK SEASON)
TO SFO
AF84 10:20 - 12:50
FROM SFO
AF83 15:05 - 10:55+1
MIAMI MIA
(MAJOR SCHEDULE CHANGE)
BEFORE US DST
TO MIA
AF90 13:10 - 17:30
FROM MIA
AF99 19:50 - 10:45+1
BETWEEN US AND EU DST
TO MIA
AF90 13:10 - 18:30
FROM MIA
AF99 20:50 - 10:45+1
DURING EU DST (LOW AND PEAK SEASONS)
TO MIA
AF90 10:25 - 14:15
FROM MIA
AF91 16:35 - 07:35+1
Notes on the MIA operations :
THE RETURN FLIGHTS FROM MIAMI TO PARIS CDG WILL CHANGE NUMBERS AFTER THE 31ST OF MARCH. AF99 AND AF95 WILL BECOME AF91 AND AF93. THESE FLIGHTS WILL OPERATE MUCH EARLIER THAN BEFORE. LA PREMIERE IS ONLY AVAILABLE ON AF91.
SAO PAULO GRU
BEFORE EU DST
TO GRU
AF460 10:30 - 18:20
FROM GRU
AF459 20:30 - 11:55+1
DURING EU DST
TO GRU
AF460 10:10 - 17:00
FROM GRU
AF459 19:15 - 11:15+1
ABIDJAN
BEFORE EU DST :
TO ABJ
AF702 14:35 - 19:55
FROM ABJ
AF703 22:15 - 05:45+1
DURING EU DST :
TO ABJ
AF702 14:05 - 18:35
FROM ABJ
AF703 21:05 - 05:45+1
DUBAI
BEFORE EU DST
TO DXB
AF662 13:35 - 23:20
FROM DXB
AF655 01:30 - 06:25
DURING EU DST
TO DXB
AF662 13:40 - 22:35
FROM DXB
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
SINGAPORE
BEFORE EU DST
TO SIN
AF256 21:05 - 16:55+1
FROM SIN
AF257 22:55 - 06:10+1
DURING EU DST
TO SIN
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
FROM SIN
AF257 22:35 - 06:10+1
TOKYO HANEDA
BEFORE EU DST
TO HND
AF282 09:25 - 06:50+1 (NOT DAILY. LA PREMIERE RARELY AVAILABLE)
AF274 21:55 - 19:25+1
FROM HND
AF293 01:00 - 07:55 (3X WEEKLY)
AF281 09:05 - 15:55 (NOT DAILY. LA PREMIERE RARELY AVAILABLE)
AF279 22:50 - 05:45+1 (4X WEEKLY)
DURING EU DST
TO HND
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
FROM HND
AF293 00:05 - 08:00
Note on HND operations :
AF279 AND AF293 IS THE SAME RETURN FLIGHT OF AF274, UNDER TWO DIFFERENT CODES DUE TO THE SLOTS BEING ALLOCATED ON THE SAME DAY.
4X WEEKLY IT RETURNS BEFORE MIDNIGHT UNDER CODE AF279, THREE TIMES WEEKLY AFTER MIDNIGHT, IT RETURNS UNDER CODE AF293.
This cabin could become available on newer aircrafts and more routes in the future.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 20 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, E and Q)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated as P service) included Beirut, Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Mexico, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
AF « La Premičre » Outlook
Feb 16, 2025 | 2:58 am
#3766
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Paris and around the WW
Programs: AF/KLM Club2000 Ultimate / M&M HON Circle / ALL Limitless / Hertz President Circle
Posts: 1,331
Just trying to figure it out, what would you write to LP team exactly ? Complain about not informing you upfront that you could not get champagne before take off while you add some in the lounge ?
I understand that considering the ticket prices, we all expect super high standards especially on hard product.
However, raising this specific case while you could have asked the staff for explanation on board is tmho not worth it
Feb 16, 2025 | 8:08 am
#3767
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
Posts: 3,238
Why is it so inconsistent? That’s my issue. When I flew LP in October JFK-CDG, Champagne was free flowing on the ground (doors still open). Fast forward to a few days ago, same flight, we were told no Champagne on the ground. Fortunately the FA opened a bottle right after the doors closed, but I just don’t understand why it would change month to month. I have two theories, one is that the taxes have increased since then and/or they just prioritize based on the flight (as silly as it sounds, maybe if there’s a VIP onboard they are willing to pay the taxes). Weird.
Feb 16, 2025 | 10:56 am
#3768
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: VIE
Programs: AFKL Platinum, SAS EBG (STE+), TK Elite (*G), Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,333
May I ask what is the AF F offer when alcohol isn't offered as a pre departure drink?
Specifically because many airlines fall back to "water or orange juice" when that's the case, which is shameful. While I think that paying tax for champagne should not be a problem when you're charging 10000+ for a return ticket, I think there are ways to provide a good pre-departure service without it. TK (in J of course) comes to mind - there's no alcohol but they can put up a nice selection of non alcoholic drinks (juices/lemonades) and then I don't care all that much.
Specifically because many airlines fall back to "water or orange juice" when that's the case, which is shameful. While I think that paying tax for champagne should not be a problem when you're charging 10000+ for a return ticket, I think there are ways to provide a good pre-departure service without it. TK (in J of course) comes to mind - there's no alcohol but they can put up a nice selection of non alcoholic drinks (juices/lemonades) and then I don't care all that much.
Feb 16, 2025 | 1:09 pm
#3769
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: DL Gold, AA Gold, EK Silver
Posts: 3,973
May I ask what is the AF F offer when alcohol isn't offered as a pre departure drink?
Specifically because many airlines fall back to "water or orange juice" when that's the case, which is shameful. While I think that paying tax for champagne should not be a problem when you're charging 10000+ for a return ticket, I think there are ways to provide a good pre-departure service without it. TK (in J of course) comes to mind - there's no alcohol but they can put up a nice selection of non alcoholic drinks (juices/lemonades) and then I don't care all that much.
Specifically because many airlines fall back to "water or orange juice" when that's the case, which is shameful. While I think that paying tax for champagne should not be a problem when you're charging 10000+ for a return ticket, I think there are ways to provide a good pre-departure service without it. TK (in J of course) comes to mind - there's no alcohol but they can put up a nice selection of non alcoholic drinks (juices/lemonades) and then I don't care all that much.
However the TK juices and lemonade are nice. They are absolutely better than the juices I just had on CI and JX.
Feb 17, 2025 | 1:32 am
#3770
Join Date: Jul 2015
Programs: UA Platinum, Starbucks Gold
Posts: 958
May I ask what is the AF F offer when alcohol isn't offered as a pre departure drink?
Specifically because many airlines fall back to "water or orange juice" when that's the case, which is shameful. While I think that paying tax for champagne should not be a problem when you're charging 10000+ for a return ticket, I think there are ways to provide a good pre-departure service without it. TK (in J of course) comes to mind - there's no alcohol but they can put up a nice selection of non alcoholic drinks (juices/lemonades) and then I don't care all that much.
Specifically because many airlines fall back to "water or orange juice" when that's the case, which is shameful. While I think that paying tax for champagne should not be a problem when you're charging 10000+ for a return ticket, I think there are ways to provide a good pre-departure service without it. TK (in J of course) comes to mind - there's no alcohol but they can put up a nice selection of non alcoholic drinks (juices/lemonades) and then I don't care all that much.
Feb 19, 2025 | 11:43 am
#3771
Join Date: Jul 2015
Programs: UA Platinum, Starbucks Gold
Posts: 958
My return flight CDG-IAD was superb. Perfect service. I took advantage of booking one of the private suites at the LPL. Really felt like a 5-star hotel.
Regarding the lounge menu, the coquillettes deserve their praise but I’m surprised I don’t see as much mention of the chicken with truffles and albufera sauce, served with macaroni gratin. Yum.
Regarding the lounge menu, the coquillettes deserve their praise but I’m surprised I don’t see as much mention of the chicken with truffles and albufera sauce, served with macaroni gratin. Yum.
Feb 21, 2025 | 4:16 pm
#3772
Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: FB Ultimate, PFL, AA Plat/2MM, SPG Plat/LT Gold
Posts: 470
Last edited by miles4CDG; Feb 21, 2025 at 4:26 pm Reason: addt'l info
Feb 22, 2025 | 8:45 am
#3773
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: Flying Blue Ultimate, DL Platinum, JetBlue Mosaic 4, AA ExecPlat, Hyatt Globalist, Sixt Diamond
Posts: 2,936
That's how much most J fares are now. I'd be grateful for those rates, I am pretty sure they'll soon be double that.
Feb 25, 2025 | 11:06 am
#3774
formerly perfusionist1982
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: BA Gold, AA Exec Plat, FB Platinum
Posts: 204
Two days ago, I checked the MAD-CDG-SFO routing on La Premičre, and the price was 250,000 miles plus taxes. The Platinum service desk placed it on hold for me for 72 hours so I could transfer some points. When I called back the next day to finalize the booking, the agent informed me that the price had increased to 335,000 miles and said she couldn’t book it. I checked online, and sure enough, the price had jumped to 335,000 miles.
At first, she claimed my booking had been automatically canceled, but that wasn’t the case—I could still see it in my app, select seats, etc. I hung up and called again. The next agent escalated the issue to a supervisor and promised to follow up. After six hours, I finally received a callback, and they honored the original hold price. She added 85,000 miles to my account and issued the ticket.
My trip is in July, so I assume it will be on the new La Premičre cabin, which might explain the price increase. I also noticed price hikes for LAX and JFK routes. Historically, CDG to <US Destination> has always been more expensive than starting from a European city like BCN or MAD and connecting through CDG. But now, the prices seem to have equalized. Could this be an adjustment to standardize US award rates? Thoughts?
At first, she claimed my booking had been automatically canceled, but that wasn’t the case—I could still see it in my app, select seats, etc. I hung up and called again. The next agent escalated the issue to a supervisor and promised to follow up. After six hours, I finally received a callback, and they honored the original hold price. She added 85,000 miles to my account and issued the ticket.
My trip is in July, so I assume it will be on the new La Premičre cabin, which might explain the price increase. I also noticed price hikes for LAX and JFK routes. Historically, CDG to <US Destination> has always been more expensive than starting from a European city like BCN or MAD and connecting through CDG. But now, the prices seem to have equalized. Could this be an adjustment to standardize US award rates? Thoughts?
Feb 25, 2025 | 1:34 pm
#3775
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 219
Two days ago, I checked the MAD-CDG-SFO routing on La Premičre, and the price was 250,000 miles plus taxes. The Platinum service desk placed it on hold for me for 72 hours so I could transfer some points. When I called back the next day to finalize the booking, the agent informed me that the price had increased to 335,000 miles and said she couldn’t book it. I checked online, and sure enough, the price had jumped to 335,000 miles.
At first, she claimed my booking had been automatically canceled, but that wasn’t the case—I could still see it in my app, select seats, etc. I hung up and called again. The next agent escalated the issue to a supervisor and promised to follow up. After six hours, I finally received a callback, and they honored the original hold price. She added 85,000 miles to my account and issued the ticket.
My trip is in July, so I assume it will be on the new La Premičre cabin, which might explain the price increase. I also noticed price hikes for LAX and JFK routes. Historically, CDG to <US Destination> has always been more expensive than starting from a European city like BCN or MAD and connecting through CDG. But now, the prices seem to have equalized. Could this be an adjustment to standardize US award rates? Thoughts?
At first, she claimed my booking had been automatically canceled, but that wasn’t the case—I could still see it in my app, select seats, etc. I hung up and called again. The next agent escalated the issue to a supervisor and promised to follow up. After six hours, I finally received a callback, and they honored the original hold price. She added 85,000 miles to my account and issued the ticket.
My trip is in July, so I assume it will be on the new La Premičre cabin, which might explain the price increase. I also noticed price hikes for LAX and JFK routes. Historically, CDG to <US Destination> has always been more expensive than starting from a European city like BCN or MAD and connecting through CDG. But now, the prices seem to have equalized. Could this be an adjustment to standardize US award rates? Thoughts?
Feb 26, 2025 | 2:07 am
#3776
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Paris
Programs: FB Platinum for Life, QR Gold
Posts: 629
Two days ago, I checked the MAD-CDG-SFO routing on La Premičre, and the price was 250,000 miles plus taxes. The Platinum service desk placed it on hold for me for 72 hours so I could transfer some points. When I called back the next day to finalize the booking, the agent informed me that the price had increased to 335,000 miles and said she couldn’t book it. I checked online, and sure enough, the price had jumped to 335,000 miles.
At first, she claimed my booking had been automatically canceled, but that wasn’t the case—I could still see it in my app, select seats, etc. I hung up and called again. The next agent escalated the issue to a supervisor and promised to follow up. After six hours, I finally received a callback, and they honored the original hold price. She added 85,000 miles to my account and issued the ticket.
My trip is in July, so I assume it will be on the new La Premičre cabin, which might explain the price increase. I also noticed price hikes for LAX and JFK routes. Historically, CDG to <US Destination> has always been more expensive than starting from a European city like BCN or MAD and connecting through CDG. But now, the prices seem to have equalized. Could this be an adjustment to standardize US award rates? Thoughts?
At first, she claimed my booking had been automatically canceled, but that wasn’t the case—I could still see it in my app, select seats, etc. I hung up and called again. The next agent escalated the issue to a supervisor and promised to follow up. After six hours, I finally received a callback, and they honored the original hold price. She added 85,000 miles to my account and issued the ticket.
My trip is in July, so I assume it will be on the new La Premičre cabin, which might explain the price increase. I also noticed price hikes for LAX and JFK routes. Historically, CDG to <US Destination> has always been more expensive than starting from a European city like BCN or MAD and connecting through CDG. But now, the prices seem to have equalized. Could this be an adjustment to standardize US award rates? Thoughts?
Feb 26, 2025 | 7:29 pm
#3777
formerly perfusionist1982
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: BA Gold, AA Exec Plat, FB Platinum
Posts: 204
I think it is very optimistic to think that your flight will have the new LP cabin knowing the pace at which AF renews its planes usually (2 months per plane), July is very close and they are only announcing the new LP cabin mid march. hopefully you get it but don't get your hopes up.
Feb 27, 2025 | 4:14 pm
#3778
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: MIA and VRN
Programs: Flying Blue Plat Hyatt Globalist AA EXP
Posts: 635
My trip is in July, so I assume it will be on the new La Premičre cabin, which might explain the price increase. I also noticed price hikes for LAX and JFK routes. Historically, CDG to <US Destination> has always been more expensive than starting from a European city like BCN or MAD and connecting through CDG. But now, the prices seem to have equalized. Could this be an adjustment to standardize US award rates? Thoughts?
Additionally, oddly enough, if I select the first seat, i.e. 1E, I cannot select for the second passenger 1F: only possible choice is 1A, even if 1F and 1L are not taken. I wonder if it is just a web glitch, or something related to the future configuration of First Class (travel is for December)
Feb 27, 2025 | 5:50 pm
#3779
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: NYC
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Flying Blue Platinum, AA Platinum Pro
Posts: 306
Last week I checked if I could change a reservation for 2 La Premiere Award tickets MIA-CDG-MXP (they costed me a total of 465k miles, 232,500 each). Change was not possible as the date I was looking for only had 1 seat available. Today there are 2 seats available for the same date, but now the cost jumped to 281k each - total 562k: so, the increase is widespread. And if I want to proceed with the change, they will refund me the price I paid and charge me the new one.
Feb 27, 2025 | 6:35 pm
#3780
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: USA
Posts: 98
How many planes will be updated to the new LaP per Year?
I think it is very optimistic to think that your flight will have the new LP cabin knowing the pace at which AF renews its planes usually (2 months per plane), July is very close and they are only announcing the new LP cabin mid march. hopefully you get it but don't get your hopes up.
So does this mean that it will take 3 entire years for the new LaP to be on all of the 18 jets/routes that Air France has LaP on?
So it would take until almost 2029 for all of the Air France LaP cabins to have been installed? AUGGGGH!
Can someone give a more precise idea than this?