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Old Jan 3, 2025 | 2:41 am
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SQ all the way. Especially given the BAEC changes - Which makes it even more galling that I booked BA over SQ/TK to nudge myself closer to what I thought would be GFL.
I may even take the hit of cancellation fees and rebook with SQ.
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Old Jan 3, 2025 | 9:15 am
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SQ has better food, service, and lounges, but I prefer the BA Suite because I am 6’3” with size 13 feet. SQ seats have a width of 25“ and a pitch of 60“, permitting them to claim a 78“ flat bed if measured diagonally, assuming that you sleep on your side and can get your big feet into the little cubbyhole in the corner. A SQ bulkhead seat has a much wider space for your feet. The SQ seat blocks the first of two windows and has no door. In my opinion, the BA Suite is better than the average business seat and better than the SQ business seat.
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Old Jan 3, 2025 | 9:22 am
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I really like how everyone is assuming there's gonna be Club Suites when that's only true on 1) the BA15 77W rotation that 2) happens only on Northern Winter schedule.

Fly March-October LHR-SIN on BA and you're pretty much stuck with the old seats regardless of whether you fly BA11 or BA15.
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Old Jan 3, 2025 | 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by John Portland
SQ has better food, service, and lounges, but I prefer the BA Suite because I am 63 with size 13 feet. SQ seats have a width of 25 and a pitch of 60, permitting them to claim a 78 flat bed if measured diagonally, assuming that you sleep on your side and can get your big feet into the little cubbyhole in the corner. A SQ bulkhead seat has a much wider space for your feet. The SQ seat blocks the first of two windows and has no door. In my opinion, the BA Suite is better than the average business seat and better than the SQ business seat.
I completely agree. I've only flown SQ on the A350, but the seat pitch is very claustrophobic and (in particular) the awful, tiny footwells are extremely uncomfortable. In order to turn over while sleeping I actually had to stand up first, because there wasn't enough room to wrangle my feet in the miniscule opening to the footwell, and the seat in front of me was so close I couldn't shift my knees around once my feet were out of the footwell. Awful design. I am much more comfortable (and sleep much better) in the BA Club Suite.

Not sure if it's the same seats on the SQ A380.
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Old Jan 3, 2025 | 11:28 am
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I think the overall assessment on this thread is pretty clear!

I've only flown SQ once in the last 10 years, and that was solely because my MH connection at KL failed. However I found the SQ business class soft product on the short hop from SIN to HKT to be significantly better than the BA long haul soft product (and far superior wines and spirits on offer in the SQ business class lounge at SIN also)

The only thing that will stop me flying SQ more now, is that they tend to be the most expensive option on most routes I'm likely to fly

Does anyone remember the good old days (before the internet natch.) when fares were governed by arcane rules laid down by IATA and the price you paid depended whether your ticket was SITI or SOTO and where you were flying from and to, but was completely carrier-independent?

I remember flying DEL-SIN rtn in the early 90's on SQ in F for around 480 rtn. I knew about that fare because in those days Business Traveller Asia used to have a handy pull-out section listing business class and first class fares between various places in Asia. Happy days!
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Old Jan 3, 2025 | 11:31 am
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I flew a lot in BA CS and in SQ J. SQ J is without a doubt the winner. Its not even comparable.
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Old Jan 3, 2025 | 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by John Portland
SQ has better food, service, and lounges, but I prefer the BA Suite because I am 63 with size 13 feet. SQ seats have a width of 25 and a pitch of 60, permitting them to claim a 78 flat bed if measured diagonally, assuming that you sleep on your side and can get your big feet into the little cubbyhole in the corner. A SQ bulkhead seat has a much wider space for your feet. The SQ seat blocks the first of two windows and has no door. In my opinion, the BA Suite is better than the average business seat and better than the SQ business seat.
SQ definitely used my body doppelganger (vertically challenged but more than a bit on the rotund side of things) as the dummy for their J seat. It's actually ideal for short fat people. But I think it would be sub-par for anyone taller, and I've heard complaints as such. Not quite sure why everyone thinks it's an absolutely no-brainer over BA: it is better in many ways but nowhere near all.
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Old Jan 3, 2025 | 6:30 pm
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Alright, though I do not like the diagonal seating in SQ planes, I think bulkhead seats largely solve the problem. Sounds like I should go with SQ then, and not try BA. So far so good, I don't think I will be flying quantas either, so I will stick to SQ for all my non-stop flight needs. I might try QR one day if I fancy a layover.
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 12:36 pm
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BA Club Suites infinite seat recline?

Thinking of BA for SFO-LHR flights in future, the planes configured 1-2-1 in biz. It all looks good, but I cannot find out if the seats recline exactly how you want them. I don't sleep on planes, but I do adjust the seat often during the flight. If I don't have a choice of just where to put the seat, I'll pass and stick with United. Many thanks, all.
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 12:46 pm
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I should stick with United if it does what you want.
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by bisonrav
I should stick with United if it does what you want.
UA does not do what I want, I'm looking at BA, hence my question.
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by jsn55
Thinking of BA for SFO-LHR flights in future, the planes configured 1-2-1 in biz. It all looks good, but I cannot find out if the seats recline exactly how you want them. I don't sleep on planes, but I do adjust the seat often during the flight. If I don't have a choice of just where to put the seat, I'll pass and stick with United. Many thanks, all.
The seat recline mechanism is fully adjustable and will allow you to recline from the full upright position all the way to horizontal and any position in between. There are also presets you can use and adjust from there. One thing I should add is the footstool is fixed so it cannot be raised or adjusted forward.
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by MeltingAlf
I really like how everyone is assuming there's gonna be Club Suites when that's only true on 1) the BA15 77W rotation that 2) happens only on Northern Winter schedule.

Fly March-October LHR-SIN on BA and you're pretty much stuck with the old seats regardless of whether you fly BA11 or BA15.
I think this is wrong. BA11 is a 777 for Summer 2025. I'd still pick SQ mind you.
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 2:47 pm
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Originally Posted by mikeyfly
Just dont consider BA.I flew BA15 to SIN on Boxing Day (four of us - very expensive J tickets);

Mouse ran out from under our table twice in the Flounge
Thimble of warm fizz served pre departure
I then waited over 90 mins for another drink
Not one hot towel service
Food appalling
Not proactively offered anything in 13 hours
Toilets got grubbier and were never attended to
Cabin was unacceptably hot resulting in awful groggy sleep



Other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play flight ?
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 2:54 pm
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Forgot to mention seat wouldnt recline to flat, full aircraft so crew had to do manually.

i did however get 100,000 Avios last week so all is forgiven and companion got 300 evoucher for mouse !!!

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