Is anyone else getting an error when trying to transfer Alaska Miles to Hawaiian?

https://storefront.points.com/mileag...exchange/error

Screen has an X with the message "There was an error."

Both Barclay’s (Hawaiian cards) and BOA (Alaska cards) now have relatively strict “anti-churning” policies. I know, I learned the hard way .

BOA/Alaska: 17 cards past 9 years, including 2 each in 2021 and 2022 and 2023 and non-negotiable declines in April 2024 and June 2024. Was told during 2024 unsuccessful recon calls that BOA had changed from 2/3/4 (2 cards in 2 months and 3 cards in 12 months and 4 cards in 24 months) to max 2 Alaska (?biz/pers) cards in 24 months from approval.

Barclays (Bank of Hawaii)/Hawaiian: 7 cards in past 8.5 years. Was told during June 2023 unsuccessful recon call of non-negotiable 24 months between account closure and approval.

Any DP(s) and/or opinions or predictions regarding easing or termination of these restrictions in view of the acquisition and expected changes to credit card offerings?

Thank you.

Hmm, I'm not sure I'd characterize roughly two BOA AS cards and a Barclays HA card per year for almost a decade as reflective of "relatively strict 'anti-churning' policies," but I get what you mean. FWIW, I picked up a second AS personal card and a business card about a year ago, with a personal card open and three canceled in the 3-5 years before that. Barclays gave me an HA card a year and a half ago, six months after canceling the previous one, but P2 was rejected for an HA card a few weeks ago, approximately six months after canceling the last one. I'll try Barclays one more time closer to the program merger, but think I'll leave BOA alone until the premium card comes out.

TLDR: slow down for a while and try again.

why not do bank of hawaii card as well?

There is no Bank of Hawaii card. It's just the Barclays card with a BOH marketing tie-in.

Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part, I didn’t intend my post as a critique of anti-churning policies other that they are more strict now than in the past, that information was intended mainly as background information. Better phrasing might have been: Both Barclay’s (Hawaiian cards) and BOA (Alaska cards) now have relatively new strict “anti-churning” policies.

Not sure I understand your comment. How do you characterize roughly two BOA AS cards and a Barclays HA card per year for almost a decade? Reflective of liberal approvals (and thus anti-churning policies)? Something else?

Just joking that the gravy train was good until it wasn�t, so agreeing in different words. And I have found both banks to be somewhat more generous than a strict two-year waiting period, at least with a history somewhat less aggressive than yours, but I don�t know how much more generous, nor whether Barclays may have clamped down further with the prospect of losing the HA business when the programs merge.

thank you. almost　fell　for　that

I don't check these forums enough haha. Just read about the strategy of converting to Hawaiian miles for families to aggregate Alaska miles, which will be useful to sweep some family member's low mile balances together.

Has Alaska (newly) mentioned any deadlines for the mile transfer program? I remember seeing some post about one of the C suite saying its not expected to be permanent. Been a bit lazy and keeping my Amex MR transfer + Barlcays SUB in Hawaiian side.

Doing the same. Feel like keeping it in Hawaiian side gives a bit more flexibility atm. At some point (a year? more/less?) AS will just merge it for us. Although will have to link my FF accounts first.

Same. I have 140k HA miles. But haven�t transferred them to AS yet.

good point. Should link the accounts. Need to figure out how to

I'm probably doing it wrong but I recently transferred a bunch of AS miles to the HA program since I'm now Pualani Plat with some upgrade certificates.

Worst case I can transfer them back to AS if needed.

Any recent DPs for MR -> HA -> AS? AS is cheaper than BA but just want to make sure it goes through before booking.

I transferred MR --> HA past week; happened instantly. Not yet passed to AS though.

Maybe TOFFT, maybe asked and answered. After successful Sapphire Reserve 48.5 month churn and unsuccessful non-NLL AmEx Biz Gold application few days ago, applied for Hawaiian Biz and Alaska Biz today. No joy for either.

Hawaiian Biz via Chrome: error message, via Edge: “being reviewed” (which is basically a “get lost” (declined) carved in stone due to the remote possibility of subsequent approval and Barclay’s near 0% reconsideration procedures and probabilities).

BOA Alaska Biz via Chrome: “unable to approve”.

Certainly unsurprising although I was thinking about possible pre-merger/consolidation gift(s) 😊.

In contrast to 90% of my “pending”, “unable” and “declined” over the past 25 years, I’m not planning a recon call for either application. Both applications were highly speculative, and particularly for Barclays, ain’t worth it and too much like hitting my head against a wall (which only feels good once I stop).

If it was Chase or AmEx I’d call 30 seconds later, Barclay’s never again, BOA once in a blue moon*.

(* "Once in a blue moon" is an idiom that means something happens very rarely or seldom.)