Crediting different segments to different (UA/partner) FF programs? [Merged]
#16
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Thank you. Once I get the receipt and take the flights, I'll report back with the actual RDM and PQD accrual versus the one listed on the receipt.
Out of curiosity: is it possible to earn miles with two programs on one ticket? In my case, at the airport check-in in PUS, could I ask Korean Air to credit miles for KE875 on 016 ticket to my Skypass account, without impacting earnings to MileagePlus for the remainder of the trip?
Out of curiosity: is it possible to earn miles with two programs on one ticket? In my case, at the airport check-in in PUS, could I ask Korean Air to credit miles for KE875 on 016 ticket to my Skypass account, without impacting earnings to MileagePlus for the remainder of the trip?
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Thank you. Once I get the receipt and take the flights, I'll report back with the actual RDM and PQD accrual versus the one listed on the receipt.
Out of curiosity: is it possible to earn miles with two programs on one ticket? In my case, at the airport check-in in PUS, could I ask Korean Air to credit miles for KE875 on 016 ticket to my Skypass account, without impacting earnings to MileagePlus for the remainder of the trip?
Out of curiosity: is it possible to earn miles with two programs on one ticket? In my case, at the airport check-in in PUS, could I ask Korean Air to credit miles for KE875 on 016 ticket to my Skypass account, without impacting earnings to MileagePlus for the remainder of the trip?
#18
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Hello,
I have a trip coming up that I bought through United with 2 flights on Swiss, 1 on Lufthansa and 2 flights on UA in Business and theyre in the P fare bucket.
How do I credit all the flights to my Air Canada Account?
or
How do I credit just a couple of the segments to my Air Canada Account and remaining segments to UA or a different frequent flyer account?
Bascially I went to WhereToCredit and I can see I can earn more on Air Canada and Im also looking to book a trip on Aeroplan, so this would be ideal.
NCE-ZRH-EWR (Swiss)
EWR-SFO-FRA (UA)
FRA-NCE (Lufthansa)
I have a trip coming up that I bought through United with 2 flights on Swiss, 1 on Lufthansa and 2 flights on UA in Business and theyre in the P fare bucket.
How do I credit all the flights to my Air Canada Account?
or
How do I credit just a couple of the segments to my Air Canada Account and remaining segments to UA or a different frequent flyer account?
Bascially I went to WhereToCredit and I can see I can earn more on Air Canada and Im also looking to book a trip on Aeroplan, so this would be ideal.
NCE-ZRH-EWR (Swiss)
EWR-SFO-FRA (UA)
FRA-NCE (Lufthansa)
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Have the AC account entered on the ticket PNR --can be done at booking or call and ask for a phone / airport agent to enter it or change it at check-in.
This can get tricky as crediting is not real-time. You should want until the miles have credited to an account before switching to a different account or where miles get credited is a bit of a coin toss.
Have multiple orphan accounts can be problematic. The miles cannot be combined and you can easily end up with multiple accounts of unusable miles. Additionally, with mileage expiration policies, the miles may expire before you can get a critical mass of usable miles in any one account.
Have multiple orphan accounts can be problematic. The miles cannot be combined and you can easily end up with multiple accounts of unusable miles. Additionally, with mileage expiration policies, the miles may expire before you can get a critical mass of usable miles in any one account.
#21




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One Reservation - Multiple FF accounts?
I found a multi-City routing on Google Flights that includes the following segments:
LAX-CSX-PEK (operated by HU)
PEK-TPE-MNL-ROR (Operated by HU, BR, UA)
ROR-GUM-NRT-PEK (Operated by UA,NH)
PEK-CTU-LAX (Operated by HU)
The flight seems to only be bookable on the UA website which seems odd to me considering the majority of the miles flown are on HU; phone agents were not able to ticket the routing for me but I was able to book this in United.com
I chose NOT to book this flight while logged-into my frequent flyer account because I want to know if it's possible to add different FF numbers for the different segments. For example, I'd want to credit the HU flights to Alaska Airlines and then credit the other flights to probably SQ or NH since I don't think I'll get any PQD with United for this ticket. Is this possible? Would I just request the addition of my FF nubmers at the airports when checking in or can this be done in advance? If I can't credit to multiple programs, will I be able to credit to at least one of them?
Thanks in advance,
Andrew
LAX-CSX-PEK (operated by HU)
PEK-TPE-MNL-ROR (Operated by HU, BR, UA)
ROR-GUM-NRT-PEK (Operated by UA,NH)
PEK-CTU-LAX (Operated by HU)
The flight seems to only be bookable on the UA website which seems odd to me considering the majority of the miles flown are on HU; phone agents were not able to ticket the routing for me but I was able to book this in United.com
I chose NOT to book this flight while logged-into my frequent flyer account because I want to know if it's possible to add different FF numbers for the different segments. For example, I'd want to credit the HU flights to Alaska Airlines and then credit the other flights to probably SQ or NH since I don't think I'll get any PQD with United for this ticket. Is this possible? Would I just request the addition of my FF nubmers at the airports when checking in or can this be done in advance? If I can't credit to multiple programs, will I be able to credit to at least one of them?
Thanks in advance,
Andrew
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yes that can be done. Across alliances that is easy to do. For using multiple *A accounts it can get tricky, e.g. with connecting flights having 1 credit to SQ and the 2nd one to NH is generally not working out so well. Crediting separate parts of a longer trip to different FQTV accounts is not an issue
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For the HU flights, you should be able to add your MileagePlan number via the HU website; if that doesn't work, they can do it at the check-in counter or the gate; and, if for some reason, that doesn't work, you can file for retroactive credit. I agree with cfischer that you'll be best suited to picking one *A partner for the remaining flights, whichever one it may be.
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Thank you both for your responses.
I'm still so confused......I just spent about an hour on the phone with the Mileage Plus representative and long-story short, she was only able to calculate my RQMs for the *A operated segments only. She was unable to verify my total PQDs earned and nowhere can I find a detailed breakdown of each segment's costs. The entire reservation is on a single ticket number of 016 stock; so I'm unsure why they can't seem to confirm any of this information. The PQDs are what I care about most; I'm willing to forgo any mileage earnings for Alaska on the Hainan segments if I can get PDQs for the entire value of the booked ticket.
As things stand now, if I'm unable to get clarification before my departure, I'm might leave the Frequent Flyer fields blank and have them added at the airport when I check-in for each flight. For the HU flights, I will provide my AS number and for the *A segments I will give them my UA number and just hope for the best. Based on the response above from cfischer, I shouldn't have an issue doing this since I'm won't be utilizing multiple *A accounts. Do you guys feel that I'd be better off adding my UA number now for the entire booking, and then just manually asking to update the HU segments to Alaska? I wonder if I'd have a better shot at getting the full PQDs if I went this route.
Andrew
I'm still so confused......I just spent about an hour on the phone with the Mileage Plus representative and long-story short, she was only able to calculate my RQMs for the *A operated segments only. She was unable to verify my total PQDs earned and nowhere can I find a detailed breakdown of each segment's costs. The entire reservation is on a single ticket number of 016 stock; so I'm unsure why they can't seem to confirm any of this information. The PQDs are what I care about most; I'm willing to forgo any mileage earnings for Alaska on the Hainan segments if I can get PDQs for the entire value of the booked ticket.
As things stand now, if I'm unable to get clarification before my departure, I'm might leave the Frequent Flyer fields blank and have them added at the airport when I check-in for each flight. For the HU flights, I will provide my AS number and for the *A segments I will give them my UA number and just hope for the best. Based on the response above from cfischer, I shouldn't have an issue doing this since I'm won't be utilizing multiple *A accounts. Do you guys feel that I'd be better off adding my UA number now for the entire booking, and then just manually asking to update the HU segments to Alaska? I wonder if I'd have a better shot at getting the full PQDs if I went this route.
Andrew
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A couple of thoughts
-- There can be only one frequent flyer account on a UA reservation at any given time, switching as you travel is possible but can lead to unpredictable results. Best to avoid.
-- If PQDs is the major objective, I would leave the UA MP account on the ticket and after the travel request credit for the non-*A flights to a different program.
-- Calculating the PQDs for this sort of mixed travel is not easily done and is buried deep in a computer algorithm the few seem to understand. UA has stated this is based on a standard industry practice and seems related to how revenue is distributed but I have never seen a clear explanation I can use. The typical advice is just to wait until it is posted. Your experience on this is common. But you will not get PQDs for the non-*A segments (even when on a 016 ticket) and, the overall ticket PQDs will be reduced as some revenue will go to the non-*A carriers.
-- There can be only one frequent flyer account on a UA reservation at any given time, switching as you travel is possible but can lead to unpredictable results. Best to avoid.
-- If PQDs is the major objective, I would leave the UA MP account on the ticket and after the travel request credit for the non-*A flights to a different program.
-- Calculating the PQDs for this sort of mixed travel is not easily done and is buried deep in a computer algorithm the few seem to understand. UA has stated this is based on a standard industry practice and seems related to how revenue is distributed but I have never seen a clear explanation I can use. The typical advice is just to wait until it is posted. Your experience on this is common. But you will not get PQDs for the non-*A segments (even when on a 016 ticket) and, the overall ticket PQDs will be reduced as some revenue will go to the non-*A carriers.
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Thank you both for your responses.
I'm still so confused......I just spent about an hour on the phone with the Mileage Plus representative and long-story short, she was only able to calculate my RQMs for the *A operated segments only. She was unable to verify my total PQDs earned and nowhere can I find a detailed breakdown of each segment's costs. The entire reservation is on a single ticket number of 016 stock; so I'm unsure why they can't seem to confirm any of this information. The PQDs are what I care about most; I'm willing to forgo any mileage earnings for Alaska on the Hainan segments if I can get PDQs for the entire value of the booked ticket.
As things stand now, if I'm unable to get clarification before my departure, I'm might leave the Frequent Flyer fields blank and have them added at the airport when I check-in for each flight. For the HU flights, I will provide my AS number and for the *A segments I will give them my UA number and just hope for the best. Based on the response above from cfischer, I shouldn't have an issue doing this since I'm won't be utilizing multiple *A accounts. Do you guys feel that I'd be better off adding my UA number now for the entire booking, and then just manually asking to update the HU segments to Alaska? I wonder if I'd have a better shot at getting the full PQDs if I went this route.
Andrew
I'm still so confused......I just spent about an hour on the phone with the Mileage Plus representative and long-story short, she was only able to calculate my RQMs for the *A operated segments only. She was unable to verify my total PQDs earned and nowhere can I find a detailed breakdown of each segment's costs. The entire reservation is on a single ticket number of 016 stock; so I'm unsure why they can't seem to confirm any of this information. The PQDs are what I care about most; I'm willing to forgo any mileage earnings for Alaska on the Hainan segments if I can get PDQs for the entire value of the booked ticket.
As things stand now, if I'm unable to get clarification before my departure, I'm might leave the Frequent Flyer fields blank and have them added at the airport when I check-in for each flight. For the HU flights, I will provide my AS number and for the *A segments I will give them my UA number and just hope for the best. Based on the response above from cfischer, I shouldn't have an issue doing this since I'm won't be utilizing multiple *A accounts. Do you guys feel that I'd be better off adding my UA number now for the entire booking, and then just manually asking to update the HU segments to Alaska? I wonder if I'd have a better shot at getting the full PQDs if I went this route.
Andrew
You can also add different *A FQTV #s to different parts of the trip; try to avoid that on connections on the same airline ... so LHR-ZRH-ZDH on Swiss ... I tried very unsuccessfully to credit LHR-ZRH to UA and ZRH-ZDH to M&M (because it doesn't earn on UA) ... that was a mess. Crediting the flights to following day to M&M was not a problem at all. So as long as you have a stopover somewhere and check-in again with the same or a different airline ... you should be able to change FQTV account numbers.
On your ticket receipt there should be a breakdown per segment for the PQDs. There is no guarantee this is 100% correct, but it is a good indication.
#27



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IME with the SFO to Hangzhou cheap fares with Cathay pacific connector, you can book logged into United when booking. Your frequent flyer number wont transfer to Cathay pacific since no Frequent flyer agreement. I had to go into Cathay and I put myself.
The flight was so cheap that that I didnt even calculate the PQD as long as I got my full PQMs on the UA portion.
The flight was so cheap that that I didnt even calculate the PQD as long as I got my full PQMs on the UA portion.
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If there are two carriers on the ticket, such as AC and UA, is it possible to split the crediting where UA flight will go to Mileage Plus and the AC flight to Aeroplan?
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Possible but can be tricky if back to back flights. Best to have the first flight credit before taking the second flight and changing after the first fight has credited.
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How would one even do it? I know some people will advise against it, but I just want to know how would I even begin to do that if I want to. Often, my layovers would be less than 4 hours with UA. Is that even enough time to make a call or ask at a UC?


