Drag Queen Clears Security
#31
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What's different about these cases? Maybe race was a factor. Maybe age was a factor (both from the passenger and GA perspective; we've had scantily-dressed drag queens a lot longer than we've had hip-hop saggy pants). Or maybe something else is going on which we don't have any information about (quite likely, perhaps).
But trying to figure out what is different between these cases is ... interesting.
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This guy has been around for a long time. I've seen him a number of times at LAS. Last time I saw him, he was wearing a red dress.
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I think that is exactly the point. From what I've read here, there isn't much difference between the explicitness of what Mr. Saggy-Pants was wearing as he walked down the aisle, and the explicitness of what Mr. Drag Queen wore. Yet the GA picked a fight with Mr. Saggy-Pants, and apparently no GA chose to pick a fight with Mr. Drag Queen.
What's different about these cases? Maybe race was a factor. Maybe age was a factor (both from the passenger and GA perspective; we've had scantily-dressed drag queens a lot longer than we've had hip-hop saggy pants). Or maybe something else is going on which we don't have any information about (quite likely, perhaps).
But trying to figure out what is different between these cases is ... interesting.
What's different about these cases? Maybe race was a factor. Maybe age was a factor (both from the passenger and GA perspective; we've had scantily-dressed drag queens a lot longer than we've had hip-hop saggy pants). Or maybe something else is going on which we don't have any information about (quite likely, perhaps).
But trying to figure out what is different between these cases is ... interesting.
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No I think that "proper attire" required for travel is enough. Whatever happened to adults need to be able to make decisions that reflect being an adult. For the airline to come up with every little scenario of what would be not appropriate attire is just too far fetching. A middle aged man should know that showing up in panties and a bra to a very public place is just not acceptable. Sure, if he wants to wear that attire, or for that matter anything else, in a private setting that is his business.
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While maybe someone does not care what children see or don't see (for full disclosure I usually cringe when children come into the AA AC or the F cabin), the airline does have some responsibilty of insuring an environment that is at least suitable for children. This would include for example someone in eye sight of a child pulling out a Hustler magazine of someone on GoGo or Row 44 streaming porn.
Second, I agree this guy is emotionally unstable and therefore might present a danger in the air. I'm not sure if this guy is gay or not, it really does not matter in this case, but sadly as a gay man I constantly see middle aged and older gay men exhibiting unapproriate behavior constantly in public but that is another subject for another time. And the same goes for some heterosexual men as well.
Second, I agree this guy is emotionally unstable and therefore might present a danger in the air. I'm not sure if this guy is gay or not, it really does not matter in this case, but sadly as a gay man I constantly see middle aged and older gay men exhibiting unapproriate behavior constantly in public but that is another subject for another time. And the same goes for some heterosexual men as well.
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#40
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Exactly!! Why didn't the TSA make him get fully dressed? The TSA won't let college boys who know their rights and the constitution take off their shirts and pants. Boxer shorts cover more than what Mr. Gaga wore!!
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Then again, there are probably more than a few screeners out there who will happily take this on for their own screwy reasons, none of which are related to security.
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The TSA says they assign a groper based upon the gender presented by the to-be-groped. So do they call for a female assist in this case? Might be exactly the sly fox's ploy.
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And definitely not in a mentally or emotionally healthy way. I would keep him off, not because of his excruciating bad taste, but because he appears to be emotionally or mentally disordered and therefore unpredictable and a potential threat to the safety of the aircraft.
And definitely not in a mentally or emotionally healthy way. I would keep him off, not because of his excruciating bad taste, but because he appears to be emotionally or mentally disordered and therefore unpredictable and a potential threat to the safety of the aircraft.
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This man is old news for those of us in the US forum. He is apparently known as "The Chairman" since he flies A LOT on US. (Chairman is the highest status on US.) I hear he is a big revenue generator for them, so they let him fly.
Personally, I'd have no problem sitting next to the guy. That would likely mean I'd be seated in F!
I am sure talking to him would be quite amusing.
Oh, and he is definitely not a drag queen. I believe he would be considered a cross dresser. Regardless, live and let live.
Personally, I'd have no problem sitting next to the guy. That would likely mean I'd be seated in F!
I am sure talking to him would be quite amusing.Oh, and he is definitely not a drag queen. I believe he would be considered a cross dresser. Regardless, live and let live.

