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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by njx9
Not seeing why this is a big deal (him being allowed to fly, that is, not discussing the pants-sagging comparison).
I think that is exactly the point. From what I've read here, there isn't much difference between the explicitness of what Mr. Saggy-Pants was wearing as he walked down the aisle, and the explicitness of what Mr. Drag Queen wore. Yet the GA picked a fight with Mr. Saggy-Pants, and apparently no GA chose to pick a fight with Mr. Drag Queen.

What's different about these cases? Maybe race was a factor. Maybe age was a factor (both from the passenger and GA perspective; we've had scantily-dressed drag queens a lot longer than we've had hip-hop saggy pants). Or maybe something else is going on which we don't have any information about (quite likely, perhaps).

But trying to figure out what is different between these cases is ... interesting.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 4:51 pm
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The major difference is that "hip-hop" saggy pants generally is associated thuggish, violent behavior, where cross dressing is very rarely associated with anything more violent than a flamboyant swishing motion.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 4:53 pm
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This guy has been around for a long time. I've seen him a number of times at LAS. Last time I saw him, he was wearing a red dress.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 5:09 pm
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Originally Posted by jkhuggins
I think that is exactly the point. From what I've read here, there isn't much difference between the explicitness of what Mr. Saggy-Pants was wearing as he walked down the aisle, and the explicitness of what Mr. Drag Queen wore. Yet the GA picked a fight with Mr. Saggy-Pants, and apparently no GA chose to pick a fight with Mr. Drag Queen.

What's different about these cases? Maybe race was a factor. Maybe age was a factor (both from the passenger and GA perspective; we've had scantily-dressed drag queens a lot longer than we've had hip-hop saggy pants). Or maybe something else is going on which we don't have any information about (quite likely, perhaps).

But trying to figure out what is different between these cases is ... interesting.
My point exactly.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by jkhuggins
What's different about these cases?
Well, for starters the guy in the ladies underthings is a FF on US, possibly even a Chairman's Preferred.

So if you want to show off your tighties, like many things with commercial air travel, it helps to have status.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 6:43 pm
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I would rather do a RTW mileage run with the baggy pants guy, all the while hoping a emergency situation does not cause gridlock at the exits..... then do a PHL-HPN hop with Mr. GaGa sitting next to me.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 8:00 pm
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Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge
No I think that "proper attire" required for travel is enough. Whatever happened to adults need to be able to make decisions that reflect being an adult. For the airline to come up with every little scenario of what would be not appropriate attire is just too far fetching. A middle aged man should know that showing up in panties and a bra to a very public place is just not acceptable. Sure, if he wants to wear that attire, or for that matter anything else, in a private setting that is his business.
There are adults who will drive a 5,000 pound motor vehicle when under the influence of various drugs.

There are adults who will shoot someone for little or no reason.

There are adults who would not hesitate to take by force everything you own.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 8:13 pm
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Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge
While maybe someone does not care what children see or don't see (for full disclosure I usually cringe when children come into the AA AC or the F cabin), the airline does have some responsibilty of insuring an environment that is at least suitable for children. This would include for example someone in eye sight of a child pulling out a Hustler magazine of someone on GoGo or Row 44 streaming porn.

Second, I agree this guy is emotionally unstable and therefore might present a danger in the air. I'm not sure if this guy is gay or not, it really does not matter in this case, but sadly as a gay man I constantly see middle aged and older gay men exhibiting unapproriate behavior constantly in public but that is another subject for another time. And the same goes for some heterosexual men as well.
But the child can kick my seatback ad nauseum for hours or grab my shirt when sitting in a lap next to me. I'll take the drag queen any day.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 8:46 pm
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I make no judgments about people's mental stability based on clothing choices, so perhaps he is just a genius with a very effective method for avoiding being groped. ::shrug::
LOL! Are you kidding?? I'm suprised that the story didn't go on to say that the TSO screeners insisted that he put on a dress so that they could pat him down!
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 2:42 pm
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LOL! Are you kidding?? I'm suprised that the story didn't go on to say that the TSO screeners insisted that he put on a dress so that they could pat him down!
Exactly!! Why didn't the TSA make him get fully dressed? The TSA won't let college boys who know their rights and the constitution take off their shirts and pants. Boxer shorts cover more than what Mr. Gaga wore!!
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 3:42 pm
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Exactly!! Why didn't the TSA make him get fully dressed? The TSA won't let college boys who know their rights and the constitution take off their shirts and pants. Boxer shorts cover more than what Mr. Gaga wore!!
Nobody trumps a wildcard better than another wildcard. This guy could call BS on a manipulative, bullying screener in a heartbeat, and my guess he could do it relatively effectively. I don't think this guy is unstable at all; he is very comfortable (literally) in his own skin and he might as well be wearing a sign that says "Not Easily Intimidated."

Then again, there are probably more than a few screeners out there who will happily take this on for their own screwy reasons, none of which are related to security.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 3:51 pm
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The TSA says they assign a groper based upon the gender presented by the to-be-groped. So do they call for a female assist in this case? Might be exactly the sly fox's ploy.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 7:51 pm
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I'd much rather sit next to the guy with the droopy pants who got kicked off, than sit next to the man in the skimpy women's clothes.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 10:47 pm
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Originally Posted by PTravel
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And definitely not in a mentally or emotionally healthy way. I would keep him off, not because of his excruciating bad taste, but because he appears to be emotionally or mentally disordered and therefore unpredictable and a potential threat to the safety of the aircraft.
And your assessment of Lady Gaga, Madonna, Gene Simmons in Kiss get up or any other similarly attired celebrity would be the same?
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 6:14 am
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This man is old news for those of us in the US forum. He is apparently known as "The Chairman" since he flies A LOT on US. (Chairman is the highest status on US.) I hear he is a big revenue generator for them, so they let him fly.

Personally, I'd have no problem sitting next to the guy. That would likely mean I'd be seated in F! I am sure talking to him would be quite amusing.

Oh, and he is definitely not a drag queen. I believe he would be considered a cross dresser. Regardless, live and let live.
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