New SAS long haul routes?
Aug 19, 2015, 3:46 am
#61
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Yes - and I personally love a direct route to BOS
Yes - but once a week from CPH (and twice a week from OSL) it is pure leisure. While timing on the CPH route is pretty nice - once a week is almost a joke.
And quite honestly DY long haul prices have been disappointingly high. Add in all the massive delays and DY inability to cope with it - I am more likely to continue to fly into EWR and drive up.
Hope to see some exciting news later on - but can't not see any news on upcomming press conferences.
Yes - but once a week from CPH (and twice a week from OSL) it is pure leisure. While timing on the CPH route is pretty nice - once a week is almost a joke.
And quite honestly DY long haul prices have been disappointingly high. Add in all the massive delays and DY inability to cope with it - I am more likely to continue to fly into EWR and drive up.
Hope to see some exciting news later on - but can't not see any news on upcomming press conferences.
Aug 19, 2015, 3:52 am
#62
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: AGH
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Soon to be working for a BOS based company, CPH-BOS would be highly appreciated - although LX going CPH-ZRH-BOS isn't too bad.
As long as DY will not improve on-time performance and IROPS handling I will not consider them for any long-haul travel - even if it could get mere there without a connection
As long as DY will not improve on-time performance and IROPS handling I will not consider them for any long-haul travel - even if it could get mere there without a connection
Aug 19, 2015, 4:23 am
#64
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Can always use BA as well, its only a 6,5 hour flight from LHR. Along with the 1,5 hour jump from CPH you spend 2+ hours less in the air. Along with 4 daily departures instead of just 1 you're easily rebooked during IRROPS.
I have no problems getting to the North East of the US/Canada from Scandinavia, certainly hope SK is keeping their attention on MIA/IAH(or DAL) and SFO from ARN.
Wouldn't fly DY even if they paid me to.
I have no problems getting to the North East of the US/Canada from Scandinavia, certainly hope SK is keeping their attention on MIA/IAH(or DAL) and SFO from ARN.
Wouldn't fly DY even if they paid me to.
Aug 19, 2015, 4:57 am
#65
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Can always use BA as well, its only a 6,5 hour flight from LHR. Along with the 1,5 hour jump from CPH you spend 2+ hours less in the air. Along with 4 daily departures instead of just 1 you're easily rebooked during IRROPS.
I have no problems getting to the North East of the US/Canada from Scandinavia, certainly hope SK is keeping their attention on MIA/IAH(or DAL) and SFO from ARN.
Wouldn't fly DY even if they paid me to.
I have no problems getting to the North East of the US/Canada from Scandinavia, certainly hope SK is keeping their attention on MIA/IAH(or DAL) and SFO from ARN.
Wouldn't fly DY even if they paid me to.
Aug 19, 2015, 5:28 am
#66
Join Date: Jun 2004
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It's obviously a leisure route, but I don't know many vacation travelers who want to arrive in Orlando on Monday night at 9 pm, having 'lost' the weekend plus a full day. I was also concerned about IRROPS.
Aug 19, 2015, 6:11 am
#67
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My thoughts exactly. DY offers the long-awaited CPH-MCO direct route, but when faced with booking that with once-per-week Monday flights vs. connecting on SK and flying on days that work for me, I went with SK.
It's obviously a leisure route, but I don't know many vacation travelers who want to arrive in Orlando on Monday night at 9 pm, having 'lost' the weekend plus a full day. I was also concerned about IRROPS.
It's obviously a leisure route, but I don't know many vacation travelers who want to arrive in Orlando on Monday night at 9 pm, having 'lost' the weekend plus a full day. I was also concerned about IRROPS.
With more than a month of paid vacation time, lots of national holidays, and rather flexible and very extensive paid parental leave for a lot of Scandinavians, a Monday evening to Monday evening Florida stay isn't a major problem or sub-optimization of vacation/leave time for a big chunk of the Scandinavian target market for Orlando.
Last edited by GUWonder; Aug 19, 2015 at 6:18 am
Aug 19, 2015, 6:26 am
#68
Join Date: Jun 2004
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For Disney or the other major Orlando-area attractions that attract legions of kids? Or for work conferences in the Orlando-area? Then I'd much rather start those attraction/conference visits on a Tuesday morning rather than on a Friday, Saturday, Sunday or even Monday morning. That would mean a Monday evening departure to one of the Orlando-area airports would be just fine.
A one-week trip flying DY from Monday to Monday (not that we go for so short a period, but just an example) requires 7 working days off since the return trip has a Tuesday afternoon arrival, rather than the traditional 5 working days for a Saturday to Saturday itinerary.
I can't attest to it myself, but I've heard that the "change-over days" on the weekends at Disney and other attractions see lighter crowds, but from my perspective, most every day has excessive crowds there.
With more than a month of paid vacation time, lots of national holidays, and rather flexible and very extensive paid parental leave for a lot of Scandinavians, a Monday evening to Monday evening Florida stay isn't a major problem or sub-optimization of vacation/leave time for a big chunk of the Scandinavian target market for Orlando.
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Aug 19, 2015, 6:38 am
#71
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Denmark, SK*G ( EBD), BA (silver), FB (Silver)
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A wild idea:
SVG-IAH is moved to CPH-IAH with a wide body (SVG-IAH is clearly not a success - and IAH could serve as access point to the latin american market)
OSL-MIA (it seem like SAS has committed themselves to a IC routes from OSL)
ARN-SFO (CPH-SFO seems to be very successfull - and if I remember the SAS quotes right, they stated their most successfull IC start up in a long time)
The 737 all biz is moved to SK901/902 all year service (believe it is leased on a 3 year contract.
Could also speculate that they have ARN-HKG on the radar screen, to do something, either on timing or routing. Bookings seems not to be as expected (with all the summer and EB deals lately). The last two IC route launches from ARN did not sucdeed (PEK and BKK).
Dont believe in BOS (to few onward connection options from BOS. DEL has been tried a couple of times - miserable failures both times.
SVG-IAH is moved to CPH-IAH with a wide body (SVG-IAH is clearly not a success - and IAH could serve as access point to the latin american market)
OSL-MIA (it seem like SAS has committed themselves to a IC routes from OSL)
ARN-SFO (CPH-SFO seems to be very successfull - and if I remember the SAS quotes right, they stated their most successfull IC start up in a long time)
The 737 all biz is moved to SK901/902 all year service (believe it is leased on a 3 year contract.
Could also speculate that they have ARN-HKG on the radar screen, to do something, either on timing or routing. Bookings seems not to be as expected (with all the summer and EB deals lately). The last two IC route launches from ARN did not sucdeed (PEK and BKK).
Dont believe in BOS (to few onward connection options from BOS. DEL has been tried a couple of times - miserable failures both times.
On another note: Is CPH-SYD (via SIN?) too much to hope for? Or CPH-GIG?
Aug 19, 2015, 7:12 am
#72
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Moreover, I believe it will not be economically feasible to launch SYD in the near future since they have no adequate aircraft for that.
I guess is ARN-SIN plus another ARN-China route?
Aug 19, 2015, 7:20 am
#73
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
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As a Sydney-sider who loves Stockholm and Copenhagen, I do so want CPH-SIN-SYD, well, CPH-anywhere-SYD... maybe one day we will see CPH-HKG-SYD..?
Aug 19, 2015, 7:53 am
#75
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
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"SAS will fly to Los Angeles and Miami in 2016 as the European airline makes another move on the US market" - http://www.ausbt.com.au/sas-will-lau...-miami-in-2016