UltraRant

TRF is also called Oslo by FR. It's a 105 minute drive to the center of the city. They have interesting ideas about geography.

ScandiGB

Are you suggesting that the experience of flying with Ryanair is more customer friendly than flying with SAS?

If you believe that SAS should learn customer service from Ryanair, then I beg to differ.

ScandiGB

UltraRant

I am not suggesting that. Don't put false words in my mouth. I am suggesting that improving service level is something SK also should do. So, yes, that they can learn from from FR.

Anyway, if FR is putting an effort in closing the gap with other airlines for customer friendliness, then I think SK might indeed have something to worry about, as SK didn't put the bar too high itself.

UA1K_no_more

They used to market Bratislava as "Vienna". Sure, it's "only" 65 kilometers between the cities, but not even landing in the right country?

GUWonder

Is 40 miles really that big a deal? I've seen taxis charge passengers (myself included sometimes) from VIE to central Vienna nearly as much as car service from VIE to our embassy in Bratislava.

Ryanair is sort of notorious for this kind of thing with out of the way airports. They used to advertise the Malmo-Sturup airport in Sweden as "Copenhagen". I'm not sure when or if that has stopped or will be stopped.

FT Guest xyzpdq

40 miles is not a big deal. Agree.

But there is a huge difference in flying into LHR and LTN - also in transer times and costs. As is the case with FR and "Stockholm", "Hamburg", "Paris", "Barcelona", "Frankfurt", "Rome" and multiple other FR destinations. Just like DY calls Oakland San Francisco.

To me it is not honest communication.

An FR is not flying to Malmö anymore AFAIK.

UA1K_no_more

My main issue with calling Bratislava "Vienna" isn't the distance. My main issue is that the airport isn't even in the same country. In how many other places does that happen? FR was criticized for this, and they now market the airport as Bratislava.
I am well aware of their "creative" marketing, having flown from "Stockholm-Skavsta" many times.
Since they stopped flying from Sturup in November, I'm pretty sure it has stopped

UltraRant

At least DY calls it Oakland - San Francisco, which isn't even that wrongs as it's on the bay as well in one big metropolis. Just like Fort Lauderdale is Fort Lauderdale-Miami. Even AA advertises it as such.

FR actually advertises it as Oslo (Torp), Oslo (Rygge), Stockholm (Skavsta), Paris (Beauvais), Brussels (Charleroi), etc. That I deem false advertising.

FT Guest xyzpdq

And try to sit in a taxi from SFO to the centre - and then one from Oakland across the Oakland bridge to the centre - especially in rush hour. The fare difference is huge. Oakland is not San Francisco. Especially if cost is your primary concern . Admittet I am not a big fan of DY - too many hard learned lessons on their short haul and too much dishonesty and lies on the IC operations.

fassy

Espacially you don't want to get lost in Oakland... Heard stories about tourists which tried to save money to get to The other side of the bay by public transportation and ended up in the wrong corners more than once.

Which is kind of strange as there are two lines on the BART from Oakland international to S.Fo.

So, for me it is absolutely okay to fly to Oakland and actual after the Asiana accident I was also put down there. Not a problem at all.

Anyway, I think there should be clear rules for LCC marketing the destinations - Frankfurt Hahn is so far out in the wild you will have no idea how to get from there to FRA if you are not local.

I hope this will be regulated sooner or later, sane as the advertised pricing regulation was issued some years ago. No more (or nearly no more) 9,95€ fares advertised and marked up by 49€ for additional services during check-out

GUWonder

SFO and OAK have a long history of being considered co-terminal by multiple major U.S. airlines.

Same for MIA and FLL, JFK and EWR and many such airports serving a given metropolitan area.

Ryanair is another story when there has been no long, multi-airline history of that coterminal sort.

UltraRant

That's why there's something like a SuperShuttle and a BART, for example. I honestly don't see the point in getting a taxi from Oakland when being cost concerned.

It's the same as stating that Newark is not New York, basically. Newark is even in a different state... To me it's just a bunch of airports serving their respective metropolitan areas.

I also had them completely written off a while ago. But they have actually improved their game. Compared to current SAS it's actually quite good, especially for what you pay.
Same goes for KLM. They also improved their game and are now significantly better than 3 or 4 years ago (except for the hold luggage fees).

Fully agreed on this one.

irishguy28

GUWonder

Is there any other carrier flying out of CPH which is off limits to city employees? Or is this to be the only such ban in place this year for these govt employees?

The government employees must be celebrating while the taxpayers in the main perhaps should not be.

CPH-Flyer

As far as I know it is the only ban in place for airlines, so far. The city of Copenhagen has a general set of ethical requirements for vendors, that also covers working conditions, it is with reference to these that they are banning the usage of Ryanair. Copenhagen is not the first city in Denmark to do this.