Jul 5, 2017, 9:53 pm
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Qatar Airways Flights to U.S.A. Electronics Ban Lifted
Travel to the United States: Electronics ban lifted
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Qatar Airways is pleased to confirm that with immediate effect, all personal electronic devices can be carried on board all departures from Hamad International Airport to destinations in the United States.
Qatar Airways and Hamad International Airport have met with all requirements of the US Department of Homeland Security’s new security guidelines and we would like to express our thanks to the US and local authorities for their support during this process.
We would also like to thank our loyal passengers for their understanding and patience while the ban has been in place.
Updated on 6 July @ 01:57 GMT
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Qatar Airways is pleased to confirm that with immediate effect, all personal electronic devices can be carried on board all departures from Hamad International Airport to destinations in the United States.
Qatar Airways and Hamad International Airport have met with all requirements of the US Department of Homeland Security’s new security guidelines and we would like to express our thanks to the US and local authorities for their support during this process.
We would also like to thank our loyal passengers for their understanding and patience while the ban has been in place.
Updated on 6 July @ 01:57 GMT
QR DOH-USA flights: electronic devices permitted on ALL flights
Mar 21, 2017, 10:32 am
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QR DOH-USA flights: electronic devices permitted on ALL flights
NOTE: Qatar Airways flights from DOH to the USA are affected by the new Trump administration DHS order prohibiting electronic devices in the cabin other than mobile / smart phones and those devices that are considered medically necessary.
Your laptop, tablet, cameras, etc. must be in checked baggage, though it's uncertain at this time how QR will deal with the concurrent prohibition of lithium batteries in the cargo and baggage compartments.
Of course, the possible political reasons for this order are best discussed in OMNI/PR, but this thread is for discussion of the practical effects of this order, e.g.
How will Qatar Airways deal with this conflicting order requiring laptops and other devices with lithium batteries be checked in as baggage?
How will Qatar Airways enable safeguarding thosevdevices to minimize risks of theft and breakage?
Etc.
A friend using QR states the QR policy is to give you cushioning materials for packing your electronics devices in your checked baggage and that QR accepts no liability. This may well change given the more customer supportive policies put in place by EY, but for the momen note this post in the AA forum:
Your laptop, tablet, cameras, etc. must be in checked baggage, though it's uncertain at this time how QR will deal with the concurrent prohibition of lithium batteries in the cargo and baggage compartments.
From Tuesday (21 Mar 2017) on, passengers traveling to the U.S. from 10 airports in eight Muslim-majority countries will not be allowed to have iPads, laptops or any communications device larger than a smartphone in the cabin of the plane. If you are traveling from Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Morocco, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, or the UAE on Egypt Air, Emirates, Etihad Airways, Kuwait Airways, Qatar Airways, Royal Air Maroc, Royal Jordanian Airlines, Saudi Arabian Airlines, or Turkish Airlines, and you want to use your laptop on the flight, you are probably out of luck.
Link to Washington Post article
Link to Washington Post article
How will Qatar Airways deal with this conflicting order requiring laptops and other devices with lithium batteries be checked in as baggage?
How will Qatar Airways enable safeguarding thosevdevices to minimize risks of theft and breakage?
Etc.
A friend using QR states the QR policy is to give you cushioning materials for packing your electronics devices in your checked baggage and that QR accepts no liability. This may well change given the more customer supportive policies put in place by EY, but for the momen note this post in the AA forum:
...between countries that are parties to the Montreal Convention: (https://www.iata.org/policy/Documents/MC99_en.pdf, Art. 22).
When it applies, the Montreal Convention preempts domestic law and airline contracts of carriage and other policies. There is strict liability for up to 1131 Special Drawing Rights (~$1500) in case of lost baggage, more if higher value is declared at time of check-in
In the U.S., ordinary federal district courts have original jurisdiction over Montreal Convention claims.
When it applies, the Montreal Convention preempts domestic law and airline contracts of carriage and other policies. There is strict liability for up to 1131 Special Drawing Rights (~$1500) in case of lost baggage, more if higher value is declared at time of check-in
In the U.S., ordinary federal district courts have original jurisdiction over Montreal Convention claims.
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Mar 21, 2017, 10:47 am
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Wrong forum, this is Qantas, not Qatar.
There is no conflict here. Airlines and governments have different rules, but in general lithium batteries in checked bags are fine as long as they're less than 100 watt-hour capacity and installed in a device, not loose in the bag.
There is no conflict here. Airlines and governments have different rules, but in general lithium batteries in checked bags are fine as long as they're less than 100 watt-hour capacity and installed in a device, not loose in the bag.
Mar 21, 2017, 11:17 am
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Practicalities of the electronics ban - changing flights on QR?
All,
While we all have our views on this ban, I'm looking more to a practical question. So far, I've had indications that this ban is going to last till October. My wife and I have a flight planned for June to EVN. While QR's customer service is suspect, to say the least, is there any indication that they will do a reroute onto a partner to reduce the impact of this ban?
While we all have our views on this ban, I'm looking more to a practical question. So far, I've had indications that this ban is going to last till October. My wife and I have a flight planned for June to EVN. While QR's customer service is suspect, to say the least, is there any indication that they will do a reroute onto a partner to reduce the impact of this ban?
Mar 21, 2017, 1:37 pm
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I have a DOH-ORD flight as part of a larger itinerary in April. Really hope Policy is clear and defined then. In a dream scenario, QR giving Biz/FC passengers a laptop storage bag and checking them together would be awesome, but i don't think that's how they'll approach things.
As for camera gear that's a different story. I guess it'll be a film only trip.
As for camera gear that's a different story. I guess it'll be a film only trip.
Mar 21, 2017, 3:39 pm
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We are allowing the discussion to continue but please refrain from political discussions of any kind otherwise this thread will be closed.
Regards
Zol & msm2000uk
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Regards
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Mar 21, 2017, 9:33 pm
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My concern would be checking electronics into airports that have poor security, such as JNB, NBO, LOS, etc. How safe would your laptop, iPad, camera, etc. be in checked luggage?
What if DOH were to offer a storage facility at DOH, so you can carry your device xxx DOH, then leave there to collect for your DOH xxx flight. And even more awesome on arrival into the US, they can rent you a laptop (use miles), for the duration of your stay in the US, meaning you need a secure Cloud storage facility. Business idea?
What if DOH were to offer a storage facility at DOH, so you can carry your device xxx DOH, then leave there to collect for your DOH xxx flight. And even more awesome on arrival into the US, they can rent you a laptop (use miles), for the duration of your stay in the US, meaning you need a secure Cloud storage facility. Business idea?
Mar 21, 2017, 9:51 pm
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Qatar Airways has issued a statement in its Travel Alerts that indicates they will take some kind of measures to protect electronic devices that are not mobile phones or medically necessary. The solution seems a bit ambiguous, but hopeful.
The full announcement is:
Concerned about crucial data? Perhaps wipe it from the device after copying it to the cloud and an encrypted solid state storage device you can retain in your possession?
The full announcement is:
United States - Electronic Devices
Effective 21 March in accordance with new United States government regulations, all passengers travelling on United States-bound flights are prohibited from carrying any electronic devices on board the flight other than cellular and smart phones and medical devices needed during the flight.
Qatar Airways has made special arrangements to assist passengers in securing their devices in the aircraft's baggage hold. Prohibited devices, including laptops, tablets, DVD players and electronic games must be carried in checked luggage only.
Updated on 21 March @ 12:13 GMT - link
Effective 21 March in accordance with new United States government regulations, all passengers travelling on United States-bound flights are prohibited from carrying any electronic devices on board the flight other than cellular and smart phones and medical devices needed during the flight.
Qatar Airways has made special arrangements to assist passengers in securing their devices in the aircraft's baggage hold. Prohibited devices, including laptops, tablets, DVD players and electronic games must be carried in checked luggage only.
Updated on 21 March @ 12:13 GMT - link
Mar 21, 2017, 11:20 pm
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more than 50% chance it will be stolen or broken.
Mar 22, 2017, 2:45 am
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Company security policy is not to leave data carrying devices out of sight during travel, which makes flying QR to US at minimum a hazzle, and worst case a no-go.
I'm booked LAX-DOH-SIN/SIN-DOH-LAX in september (D-class, 250USD cancellation fee).
Do you see any chance of QR:
- Allowing me to reroute DOH-LAX leg to non-affected partner ?
- Waiving cancellation fee, and allowing me to rebook on different carrier ?
I'm booked LAX-DOH-SIN/SIN-DOH-LAX in september (D-class, 250USD cancellation fee).
Do you see any chance of QR:
- Allowing me to reroute DOH-LAX leg to non-affected partner ?
- Waiving cancellation fee, and allowing me to rebook on different carrier ?
Mar 22, 2017, 3:39 am
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Like an emotional support pet, an emotional support electronic pet? 
If it powers on with connected batteries or an electrical power source, it's to be impacted by the ban unless your external back-up drive can pass as a phone/smartphone or medical device. But I don't expect absolute consistency there either.
If it powers on with connected batteries or an electrical power source, it's to be impacted by the ban unless your external back-up drive can pass as a phone/smartphone or medical device. But I don't expect absolute consistency there either.