I've done a search here, and checked 9.3.1. of the T&Cs on the website regarding eligible fare classes on partner airlines, but still have the following queries.

1) What BA fare classes are eligible/ineligible?
2) Does it depend on the member's place of residence as on AA? If so, where can I find the relevant details.
3) Are BA transatlantic flights eligible e.g. to S.America?

One other Q.
4)Are the restricted fare classes listed on the site accurate and up to date? e.g. only T fares are restricted on Iberia though many other fare classes are similarly cheap.

I'm not looking to gain status on QF, just want somewhere to accrue miles for OW flights that aren't eligible on AA.


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"1) What BA fare classes are eligible/ineligible? "

All classes other than those specifically excluded in the Ts&Cs. Pretty much any paid fare is eligable

"2) Does it depend on the member's place of residence as on AA? If so, where can I find the relevant details."

Nope. The QF scheme has no residency restrictions for mileage accrual

"3) Are BA transatlantic flights eligible e.g. to S.America? "

All BA flights, wherever they go are valid, so yes, transatlantic flights are valid.


"4)Are the restricted fare classes listed on the site accurate and up to date? e.g. only T fares are restricted on Iberia though many other fare classes are similarly cheap."

yes

"I'm not looking to gain status on QF, just want somewhere to accrue miles for OW flights that aren't eligible on AA."

Well Qantas will do the trick for you.

Dave

Cheers for the info. The QF programme sounds ideal.

Just lucked out and booked a US$20 JFK-ATH-JFK on TRAVELOCITY [add another US$97 in taxes and fees!]. If they honour the fare, I look forward to a nice weekend and Mileage Run.

Since I can't put these miles into my AA account -- at least not the transAtlantic segment from JFK-LHR, looks like they will go into my QF account. Apprapos of the question here, these appear to be T fares on BA, so I assume they are valid for QF accumulation. This is actually their World Traveller Plus, which on BA gets a 35% class of service bonus. Does QF give such a bonus for this fare, or just the normal economy class mileage?

Thanks for any further info on this fare class.

[This message has been edited by Shareholder (edited 11-29-2002).]

"Apprapos of the question here, these appear to be T fares on BA, so I assume they are valid for QF accumulation. This is actually their World Traveller Plus, which on BA gets a 35% class of service bonus. Does QF give such a bonus for this fare, or just the normal economy class mileage?"]

You get the normal economy mileage however, iirc, you wil get the full economy status credits rather than the discount economy ones. The bonus that BA gives for WT+ is only 10% anyway, not 35%

Dave

Sorry to resurrect this thread; but I can't find any mention of eligable BA fare classes in clause 9.3.1 in the T&Cs (or any other part).

Am I right in thinking that cheapo fare classes (e.g. N & V) are eligable for Qantas Mileage accrual?

Regards,
Alex

Yes, if you are asking about BA fares. BA has no fares excluded (except charters), unlike the other OW airlines. Details are at http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/program/terms#9_3

THat is right - ALL paid for BA flights accrue milage on QFF irrespective of class.

You also get a minimum of 500 miles if the flight is shorter.

I regularly fly London to Europe shorthaul on the discount flights and no problems getting the milage (and status) credited.

BA N&V fares are some of the best value ways of clocking up QF status if you live in the UK.

Dave Noble helped me with some really good info on QF programme yesterday (thanks Dave) on this very topic...

Looks like QF is a far better alternative to the BAEC for me (I just miss BA Silver most of the time) and BA dont do upgrades....

One other point. There seems to be a bonus mileage of 500 that gets posted before any premium cabin or staus bonuses are calculated. This is interesting and I have no idea what it is about. Anyone shed any light on this for me ?

Are you referring to the minimum points guarantee? If your points earn for a flight, after adding cabin and status bonuses to the basic mileage, is less than 500 points (BA and AA flights) or 1000 points (QF Y) or 1250 points (QF C or F) you get the 500, 1000 or 1250 instead

I think this is for BA's miles calculation.

The way I read it, you get:

(base miles + 500) x (1.00 + status bonus + cabin bonus) on BA

and

max(1000, base miles) x (1.00 + status bonus + cabin bonus) on Qantas

I may be wrong on the status and cabin part of the QF calculation as I haven't been elite on it yet. Dave Noble will know for sure, he seems encyclopaedic.

Makes sense -- most BA trips are short, most QF trips are long.

[This message has been edited by aura (edited 01-28-2003).]

You don't get a QF status bonus when flying on BA metal without a QF codeshare. You get the cabin bonus only.

The calculation would be:

max(base miles, 500) x (1.00 + cabin bonus) on BA (no QF codeshare)

and

max(1000, base miles) x (1.00 + status bonus + cabin bonus) on Qantas and QF codeshares on BA metal

Eg LHR-LIS 972 miles, in J:

Base points 972 + Cabin bonus (25%) 243 = 1,215 points.

[This message has been edited by willyroo (edited 01-28-2003).]

Rather depends where you are!

The way it works is this (examples taken from my own account, all economy flying):-
QF 4038 WELLINGTON/AUCKLAND 299 75 1,000
QF 025 AUCKLAND/LOS ANGELES 6,517 1,630 8,147
BA 286 SAN FRANCISCO/LONDON[HEATHROW] 5,351 (0) 5,351
BA 1444 LONDON[HEATHROW]/EDINBURGH 332 (0) 500
AA 4171 CHICAGO[O'HARE]/GRAND RAPIDS 137 69 500
The first figure is base miles, the second is status bonus (there are two different rates because of a change of status). I've added in zeroes on the BA sectors because there's no status bonus on BA, but there is status bonus on AA.

So you see that the guarantee is applied after the bonuses have been calculated. Only if base+bonuses don't reach the guarantee do you get the guarantee. Bonuses aren't applied to the guarantee figure.

[This message has been edited by Globaliser (edited 01-28-2003).]

yes, i think you are right--i wasn't thinking too clearly this morning. i think i may have posted what you earn in BA on BA, not what you earn in QF on BA.

now, if only QF would allow status bonus and a 10% WT+ bonus when travelling on BA