Virgin challenges Qantas on US route
Sep 29, 2006, 9:33 am
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Originally Posted by mikalee
Branson (or one of his companies that he is the beneficial owner of) owns 51% of VS and 25% of DJ (& its subsidury's). Apart from Branson, there is no ownership relationship between VS & DJ.
I think using your criteria that SQ is already a "round the world airline" given its ownership of 49% of VS.
I think using your criteria that SQ is already a "round the world airline" given its ownership of 49% of VS.
Oct 9, 2006, 8:23 am
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Virgin Blue has not yet come to a decision on which aircraft it's new International entity will fly. I'd expect we won't hear about anything until perhaps December or early-2007. I'd imagine they are more worried about securing vital rights (daily) at this current time.
On the other hand, there is strong speculation DJ has signed off on an Embraer aircraft package for domestic ops.
Virgin Blue has an RFP with Boeing and Airbus for five 777-300ERs or A340-600s but may have to look at Asian destinations if US access is limited. That may alter the type of aircraft selected.
Oct 9, 2006, 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by QF NB
Virgin Blue has not yet come to a decision on which aircraft it's new International entity will fly. I'd expect we won't hear about anything until perhaps December or early-2007. I'd imagine they are more worried about securing vital rights (daily) at this current time.
On the other hand, there is strong speculation DJ has signed off on an Embraer aircraft package for domestic ops.
On the other hand, there is strong speculation DJ has signed off on an Embraer aircraft package for domestic ops.
Oct 9, 2006, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by Traveloguy
With a few aircraft types in their fleet, they may actually start to look more like AN!
Why have 733's AND A320's? The capacity and mission is about the same, so why have both? You just have added costs with flight-deck crew and spares.
DJ won't have this problem, they will have 737-NG's with commonality regarding flight crew and equipment. They will also have LH equipment.
The only way it could have been easier is if they had selected A320/319/318/321 for the short-haul, and then gone for the A330/340 for long-haul, and then benefitted from the ability to (very) quickly transition from one airbus type to another.
I can't see how it can be difficlut for them though. They have a very standard short haul fleet.
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Oct 9, 2006, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by QF NB
...On the other hand, there is strong speculation DJ has signed off on an Embraer aircraft package for domestic ops.
Oct 10, 2006, 3:56 pm
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According to a report in the October edition of Australian Aviation, Virgin Blue has released an RFT for five long-haul aircraft being either Boeing 777-300ER or Airbus A340-600 types. The report mentions they be used for trans-Pacific and various Asis destinations.
Assuming they will be constrained by the max of 4 services per week for the first 12 months of operations to the USA, they will have some aircraft capacify to operate to Asian destinations at the same time.
Assuming they will be constrained by the max of 4 services per week for the first 12 months of operations to the USA, they will have some aircraft capacify to operate to Asian destinations at the same time.
Oct 10, 2006, 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by thadocta
Nah, AN's probelm is that they had several aircraft type to fulfil the same mission.
Remember Ansett used to own AWAS who were one of the largest leasors in the world. Shame they sold it back a couple of years before they went bust as perhaps the profits from that part of the business probably would have kept them afloat pre/post September 11.
Oct 11, 2006, 1:18 am
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Originally Posted by Traveloguy
And the rest!
Remember Ansett used to own AWAS who were one of the largest leasors in the world. Shame they sold it back a couple of years before they went bust as perhaps the profits from that part of the business probably would have kept them afloat pre/post September 11.
Remember Ansett used to own AWAS who were one of the largest leasors in the world. Shame they sold it back a couple of years before they went bust as perhaps the profits from that part of the business probably would have kept them afloat pre/post September 11.
Oct 11, 2006, 4:02 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Marsh
I didn't know AN used to own AWAS. I thought MSDW always owned it from the start?
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Oct 11, 2006, 4:28 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Marsh
I thought there is another company is the US call Ansett? ahhaahah 
Oct 11, 2006, 4:53 am
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Originally Posted by Traveloguy
No. AWAS was started by Ansett and it's then shareholders News Ltd and TNT (Remember when both those huge companies were Australian?) back in the mid-80s.
Oct 11, 2006, 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Marsh
Aren't they are US companies? I thought they just established "branches" in Australia.
Oct 11, 2006, 6:46 am
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Originally Posted by Traveloguy
I think you need to read up on Australian corporate history! Considering your Australian I am quite surprised you did not know.
Also I thought Vegemite are a Candian invention?